Virtual PC

[JIP]

I'm confused - I keep seeing different statements as to which versions of
Vista that Virtual PC will work with.

So any experience of whether it will work with 64bit Home Premium?

Thanks

 

[Mark]

Why you type Virtual PC in a google search box and see what you find? Hint:
It's the first result.

Mark

 

[JIP]

Why you type Virtual PC in a google search box and see what you find?
Hint: It's the first result.

Mark

Oh dear another smarty pants

Already done that - and in various search results there are different
statements, as I said!

Hence my posting.

Hint: can you answer my question or not - i.e. "any experience" of whether
it will work with 64bit Home Premium?

 

[John Barnett MVP]

Virtual machine software can only be used on Windows Vista Business and
Ultimate. While people have installed VPC on Vista premium the EULA (end
user licence agreemement) forbids its use on any version of Vista other than
Business and Ultimate.

So in answer to your question the 32 bit and 64 bit versions of VPC cannot
be used on Vista premium - at least if you want to stay on the legal side of
the EULA.

Personally I prefer VMware workstation, however I don't use the 64 bit
version (workstation 6.0). I should point out that my use of VMware is
restricted to Vista Ultimate.


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[JIP]

Virtual machine software can only be used on Windows Vista Business and
Ultimate. While people have installed VPC on Vista premium the EULA (end
user licence agreemement) forbids its use on any version of Vista other
than Business and Ultimate.

So in answer to your question the 32 bit and 64 bit versions of VPC cannot
be used on Vista premium - at least if you want to stay on the legal side
of the EULA.

Personally I prefer VMware workstation, however I don't use the 64 bit
version (workstation 6.0). I should point out that my use of VMware is
restricted to Vista Ultimate.


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Many thanks for the reply - helpful and informative.

 

[Canuck57]

I'm confused - I keep seeing different statements as to which versions of
Vista that Virtual PC will work with.

So any experience of whether it will work with 64bit Home Premium?

Thanks

MS Virtual PC will install with warnings on Vista Premium. And partially
work. But is not supported on Premium or Basic. But I had issues and ended
up using VirtualBox.

http://www.virtualbox.org/

 

[norm]

Virtual machine software can only be used on Windows Vista Business and
Ultimate. While people have installed VPC on Vista premium the EULA (end
user licence agreemement) forbids its use on any version of Vista other
than Business and Ultimate.

So in answer to your question the 32 bit and 64 bit versions of VPC
cannot be used on Vista premium - at least if you want to stay on the
legal side of the EULA.

Personally I prefer VMware workstation, however I don't use the 64 bit
version (workstation 6.0). I should point out that my use of VMware is
restricted to Vista Ultimate.

The original prohibition was against RUNNING any version less than
business or ultimate in a virtual environment. The only issue with
running virtual pc in home or basic was the lack of support, not a
prohibition per the eula. Further, the original prohibition of RUNNING
home and basic has now been lifted, and the eula has been changed to
reflect this, but the lack of support still remains.
See the following site for threads dealing with the issue:
http://www.aspdeveloper.net/Virtual...asic_and_Home_Premium_on_Virtual_PC_2007.aspx

 

[John Barnett MVP]

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[Bender]

Many reply's to you seem to make it even more confusing.
Virtual PC will work on Home Premium just fine. It is not "supported", but
it works just fine on Home Premium.
Not supported means you will have to use peer supported newsgroup support or
pay for support if you have problems with it. Although I have now upgraded
to Ultimate, I ran it on Home Premium for about a year without any problems.
There may have once been a license restriction but it has been removed.
Virtual PC does not support a 64 bit guest. You will have to use the Hyper
Visor available with Windows Server 2008, and your CPU has to have the VT
support.

Virtual Server on the other hand will not even install on Home Premium.

 

[JIP]

The original prohibition was against RUNNING any version less than
business or ultimate in a virtual environment. The only issue with running
virtual pc in home or basic was the lack of support, not a prohibition per
the eula. Further, the original prohibition of RUNNING home and basic has
now been lifted, and the eula has been changed to reflect this, but the
lack of support still remains.
See the following site for threads dealing with the issue:
http://www.aspdeveloper.net/Virtual...asic_and_Home_Premium_on_Virtual_PC_2007.aspx

Thanks, that was interesting.

 

[JIP]

Many reply's to you seem to make it even more confusing.

Not too much - at least I know it will work, although as ever, some people
have problems, others don't.

The reason for my query is that I'm about to get a new computer with Vista
Home Premium, 64 bit version, and I've purchased Office 2007.

However I know that an Access database that I use in Office XP (2002)
doesn't work properly in Access 2007, and it's protected so i can't modify
it to try and make it work. I had been planning to install Access 2002, and
then Office 2007, so that I could still use this database but also have the
newer Access for future work. I gather that there are issues though with
having both versions of Access on the same machine, so I started wondering
about Virtual PC.

Am I correct in understanding that using Virtual PC I can have Windows XP
running, with Access 2002 installed so that I can use and update and save my
database on an ongoing basis.

Thanks

 

[John Barnett MVP]

Yes you can run Windows XP on Virtual PC. As I said in my original reply I
prefer VMWare Workstation, and use it to run Windows XP on my Vista Ultimate
machine. This works fine for me.

Just as an aside I take it that the copy of Windows XP isn't (or won't) be
running on another machine? You can't run any of the Windows operating
systems on two machines (including virtual machines) without the appropriate
licences.

Virtual machines are basically used for testing rather than full blown use.
For example because VMs only use virtual graphics drivers you wouldn't be
able to run AERO should you install any Vista versions. VMs are fine for the
odd thing that worked in XP but doesn't work in Vista but you should
remember that it is only a 'virtual' machine not a full blown PC.


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[JIP]

No worries - if I go down this road I have a fully legal Win Xp on my
current computer, and once the new one arrives, I will be formatting the
hard disk before passing it on. So if I install my XP on a virtual drive it
will still be the only installation for that licence.

Virtual machines are basically used for testing rather than full blown use.

Hmmm - are you saying that my picture of using Access via a virtual Win XP
installation, on a daily useage basis wouldn't work?

 

[John Barnett MVP]

No your daily usage of Access will be fine. I'm just saying that VMs are
usually used to test other operating systems/software rather than being used
as a replacement. I use my copy of VM for the purpose of accessing software
that doesn't work too well on Vista - my printer is one, but that's another
story.

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[JIP]

No your daily usage of Access will be fine. I'm just saying that VMs are
usually used to test other operating systems/software rather than being
used as a replacement. I use my copy of VM for the purpose of accessing
software that doesn't work too well on Vista - my printer is one, but
that's another story.

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Many thanks John - I'll probably be back here when I get started! 6 days to
arrival of new computer!!

 

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