Vanishing Newsgroups

[Peter Foldes]

Install the NNTP Bridge

Please take a look at: http://communitybridge.codeplex.com for details and
the current download.



--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

You'll find most of us over in MS Answers forums:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windowsxp

Internet Explorer =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/threads

Outlook Express, etc. =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xpnetwork/threads

Windows Update =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistawu/threads

Hopefully your screenreader will get along with Answers forums, too, LS.

[Snip] Can I add the above, to my OE window on left pane, as I did with my MS
NG's e g I have at moment listed msnews.microsoft.com only this group heading
left on it

Roger

 

[Unknown]

Sounds like you're just jealous you can't offer help from the words of your
post.

 

[~*Laughingstar*~]

Roger wrote:
You'll find most of us over in MS Answers forums:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windowsxp

Internet Explorer =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/threads

Outlook Express, etc. =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xpnetwork/threads

Windows Update =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistawu/threads

Hopefully your screenreader will get along with Answers forums,
too, LS.


[Snip] Can I add the above, to my OE window on left pane, as I
did with my MS NG's e g I have at moment listed
msnews.microsoft.com only this group heading left on it

Roger

Good question, Roger. I'm hanging on like blind bat in a cave. :-(

Well, but what's the point, as long as some of these NNTP newsgroups
remain active?

Like you, I'm resisting crossing over. And there's still the issue
of which bridge (Community Forums, VS Microsoft).

Or the advantages, if any, over accessing them directly in IE, at the
Microsofts Answers Home Page:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx

Someone I trust said she is using Giganews for UseNet groups....$2.99 a
month subscription plan.

"http://tinyurl.com/22qy3xx

They seem to be in better control of spam..."

OE isn't going out until 2014, when support for XP is supposed to be
discontinued. No security patches, etc. Though MS doesn't *seem* to be
saying those still using XP/OE won't be able to do so...it will just be at
their own risk.

Firefox isn't a newsgroup reader...nor is Outlook by itself. When I select
"News" in Outlook's menu bar, it takes me to OE for newsgroups.

Too many choices...and none ideal...is how I see it! It's shame to break up
a supportive group like we had here -

Hey you valuable ones - ins't there an option in there, somehow??

 

[~*Laughingstar*~]

I well understand why you are unknown.

so much for believing I was doing so well! What will "we" do
without our mentors???

Get real help perhaps.


PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
See http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx

IE General, OE General, OE6, Windows Update, Win98 General, &
WLMessenger were some of the newsgroups dropped late last week.
IE6 was dropped in early June.

Roger wrote:
Can anyone inform me , from my return from holiday I find I have
lost newsgroups like windows outlook express, Hardware, and ie6
groups

--
Ciao -

CarolJhThompson
"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience, we are
spiritual beings having a human experience ( Pierre Teilhard de
Chardin)."

 

[Unknown]

What do YOU think of his response "Get real help perhaps" to the question
"What will we do without
our mentors"?

I well understand why you are unknown.

so much for believing I was doing so well! What will "we" do
without our mentors???

Get real help perhaps.


PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
See http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx

IE General, OE General, OE6, Windows Update, Win98 General, &
WLMessenger were some of the newsgroups dropped late last week.
IE6 was dropped in early June.

Roger wrote:
Can anyone inform me , from my return from holiday I find I have
lost newsgroups like windows outlook express, Hardware, and ie6
groups

--
Ciao -

CarolJhThompson
"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience, we are
spiritual beings having a human experience ( Pierre Teilhard de
Chardin)."

 

[Doum]

"Bill in Co" <[email protected]> écrivait

I have all ".NET Framework" installed on all my machines and when a
family member or friend asks me to rebuild their Windows installation, I
always reinstall all of them. If one of their programs needs one of the
".NET", it's already installed; never had any issue.

Just make sure to visit "Windows Update" a few times after installing
them; Important and Optional updates.

But it requires installing .NET Framework 3.5 (and a pretty large app,
at over 200 MB!), as I recall. .NET 2.0 won't cut it. And that
could be a concern, no? (I thought I recall someone mentioning some
issue with that on fileforum, like it broke some of his existing 2.0
apps, or that some existing apps using .NET now ran slower? I can't
recall.

What was the service that Microsoft requires you to register for, to
be able to use it?

Install the NNTP Bridge

Please take a look at: http://communitybridge.codeplex.com for
details and the current download.



--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be
acknowledged. http://www.microsoft.com/protect

You'll find most of us over in MS Answers forums:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windowsxp

Internet Explorer =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/th
reads

Outlook Express, etc. =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xpnetwork/threads

Windows Update =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistawu/threads

Hopefully your screenreader will get along with Answers forums,
too, LS.


[Snip] Can I add the above, to my OE window on left pane, as I
did with
my MS NG's e g I have at moment listed msnews.microsoft.com only
this group heading left on it

Roger

 

[~*Laughingstar*~]

Bill in Co wrote:
~*Laughingstar*~ wrote:
Roger wrote:
You'll find most of us over in MS Answers forums:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windowsxp

Internet Explorer =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/threads

Outlook Express, etc. =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xpnetwork/threads

Windows Update =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistawu/threads

Hopefully your screenreader will get along with Answers
forums, too, LS.


[Snip] Can I add the above, to my OE window on left pane,
as I did with my MS NG's e g I have at moment listed
msnews.microsoft.com only this group heading left on it

Roger

Good question, Roger. I'm hanging on like blind bat in a cave.
:-(

Well, but what's the point, as long as some of these NNTP
newsgroups remain active?

Like you, I'm resisting crossing over. And there's still the
issue of which bridge (Community Forums, VS Microsoft).

Or the advantages, if any, over accessing them directly in IE, at
the Microsofts Answers Home Page:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx

Someone I trust said she is using Giganews for UseNet
groups....$2.99 a month subscription plan.

"http://tinyurl.com/22qy3xx

They seem to be in better control of spam..."

And Giganews has a LOT of newsgroups (and that price is nice)!

I still have an account with Earthlink, that offers the NNTP
newsgroups (which I think is indirectly handled through Giganews).

But there are several newsgroup servers available (a free one is
nntp.aioe.org) that you could sign-up for. Another free one may be
free.teranews.com, as I recall, or pay a small monthly fee and get
even better service (like with Giganews - $2.99 a month ain't bad!).

OE isn't going out until 2014, when support for XP is supposed to be
discontinued. No security patches, etc. Though MS doesn't *seem*
to be saying those still using XP/OE won't be able to do so...it
will just be at their own risk.

Well, I still plan on using OE (and XP) well beyond 2014, so that's a
non-issue for me, and many, I expect. True, MS support may be
discontinued then, but there are other support avenues available,
like these newsgroups, or the forums allegedly replacing them.

Firefox isn't a newsgroup reader...nor is Outlook by itself. When I
select
"News" in Outlook's menu bar, it takes me to OE for newsgroups.

Right. I don't have Outlook installed, and just use Outlook
Express for mail and news, which is fine by me (I don't need the
extra bells and whistles of Outlook).

Too many choices...and none ideal...is how I see it! It's shame to
break up
a supportive group like we had here -

Hey you valuable ones - ins't there an option in there, somehow??

Well, but there is this other option I mentioned - just go to another
newsgroup provider (like nntp.aioe.org, or free.teranews.com, or
Giganews, etc), where you can still access the microsoft.public
newsgroups. Either that, or we'll all end up on the forums.

Is this separation anxiety? Methinks so. . . I'll miss those I've trusted.

 

[~*Laughingstar*~]

Bill in Co wrote:
~*Laughingstar*~ wrote:
Bill in Co wrote:
~*Laughingstar*~ wrote:
Roger wrote:
You'll find most of us over in MS Answers forums:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windowsxp

Internet Explorer =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/threads

Outlook Express, etc. =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xpnetwork/threads

Windows Update =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistawu/threads

Hopefully your screenreader will get along with Answers
forums, too, LS.


[Snip] Can I add the above, to my OE window on left pane,
as I did with my MS NG's e g I have at moment listed
msnews.microsoft.com only this group heading left on it

Roger

Good question, Roger. I'm hanging on like blind bat in a cave.
:-(

Well, but what's the point, as long as some of these NNTP
newsgroups remain active?

Like you, I'm resisting crossing over. And there's still the
issue of which bridge (Community Forums, VS Microsoft).

Or the advantages, if any, over accessing them directly in IE,
at the Microsofts Answers Home Page:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx

Someone I trust said she is using Giganews for UseNet
groups....$2.99 a month subscription plan.

"http://tinyurl.com/22qy3xx

They seem to be in better control of spam..."

And Giganews has a LOT of newsgroups (and that price is nice)!

I still have an account with Earthlink, that offers the NNTP
newsgroups (which I think is indirectly handled through Giganews).

But there are several newsgroup servers available (a free one is
nntp.aioe.org) that you could sign-up for. Another free one may
be free.teranews.com, as I recall, or pay a small monthly fee and
get even better service (like with Giganews - $2.99 a month ain't
bad!).

OE isn't going out until 2014, when support for XP is supposed
to be discontinued. No security patches, etc. Though MS
doesn't *seem* to be saying those still using XP/OE won't be
able to do so...it will just be at their own risk.

Well, I still plan on using OE (and XP) well beyond 2014, so
that's a non-issue for me, and many, I expect. True, MS support
may be discontinued then, but there are other support avenues
available, like these newsgroups, or the forums allegedly
replacing them.

Firefox isn't a newsgroup reader...nor is Outlook by itself.
When I select
"News" in Outlook's menu bar, it takes me to OE for newsgroups.

Right. I don't have Outlook installed, and just use Outlook
Express for mail and news, which is fine by me (I don't need the
extra bells and whistles of Outlook).

Too many choices...and none ideal...is how I see it! It's shame
to break up
a supportive group like we had here -

Hey you valuable ones - ins't there an option in there, somehow??

Well, but there is this other option I mentioned - just go to
another newsgroup provider (like nntp.aioe.org, or
free.teranews.com, or Giganews, etc), where you can still access
the microsoft.public newsgroups. Either that, or we'll all end
up on the forums.

Is this separation anxiety? Methinks so. . .

Maybe. And all to what purpose? (since the NNTP format
seems generally preferable)

I'll miss those I've trusted.

But some of them are still here! Although it sounds like some are
abandoning the newsgroups, and going over to the forums.

And what is also annoying is that some older newsgroups dedicated to
specific topics like Windows98, don't seem to have any counterparts
on the more generically-categorized forums, at least when I looked
at the web page access through that link I mentioned. There is no
forum for Win98, for example.

On the eternal-september.org, I checked their 'support' groups and the 2 I
went into was only SPAM, no moderators what-so-ever - great help for people
that one is.

I'm still miss our helpers from here, and do realize they'll be 'moving'
over to other forums, but it's MS's loss.

 

[Bruce Hagen]

~*Laughingstar*~ wrote:
Bill in Co wrote:
~*Laughingstar*~ wrote:
Bill in Co wrote:
~*Laughingstar*~ wrote:
Roger wrote:
You'll find most of us over in MS Answers forums:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windowsxp

Internet Explorer =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/threads

Outlook Express, etc. =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xpnetwork/threads

Windows Update =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistawu/threads

Hopefully your screenreader will get along with Answers
forums, too, LS.


[Snip] Can I add the above, to my OE window on left pane,
as I did with my MS NG's e g I have at moment listed
msnews.microsoft.com only this group heading left on it

Roger

Good question, Roger. I'm hanging on like blind bat in a cave.
:-(

Well, but what's the point, as long as some of these NNTP
newsgroups remain active?

Like you, I'm resisting crossing over. And there's still the
issue of which bridge (Community Forums, VS Microsoft).

Or the advantages, if any, over accessing them directly in IE,
at the Microsofts Answers Home Page:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx

Someone I trust said she is using Giganews for UseNet
groups....$2.99 a month subscription plan.

"http://tinyurl.com/22qy3xx

They seem to be in better control of spam..."

And Giganews has a LOT of newsgroups (and that price is nice)!

I still have an account with Earthlink, that offers the NNTP
newsgroups (which I think is indirectly handled through Giganews).

But there are several newsgroup servers available (a free one is
nntp.aioe.org) that you could sign-up for. Another free one may
be free.teranews.com, as I recall, or pay a small monthly fee and
get even better service (like with Giganews - $2.99 a month ain't
bad!).

OE isn't going out until 2014, when support for XP is supposed
to be discontinued. No security patches, etc. Though MS
doesn't *seem* to be saying those still using XP/OE won't be
able to do so...it will just be at their own risk.

Well, I still plan on using OE (and XP) well beyond 2014, so
that's a non-issue for me, and many, I expect. True, MS support
may be discontinued then, but there are other support avenues
available, like these newsgroups, or the forums allegedly
replacing them.

Firefox isn't a newsgroup reader...nor is Outlook by itself.
When I select
"News" in Outlook's menu bar, it takes me to OE for newsgroups.

Right. I don't have Outlook installed, and just use Outlook
Express for mail and news, which is fine by me (I don't need the
extra bells and whistles of Outlook).

Too many choices...and none ideal...is how I see it! It's shame
to break up
a supportive group like we had here -

Hey you valuable ones - ins't there an option in there, somehow??

Well, but there is this other option I mentioned - just go to
another newsgroup provider (like nntp.aioe.org, or
free.teranews.com, or Giganews, etc), where you can still access
the microsoft.public newsgroups. Either that, or we'll all end
up on the forums.

Is this separation anxiety? Methinks so. . .

Maybe. And all to what purpose? (since the NNTP format
seems generally preferable)

I'll miss those I've trusted.

But some of them are still here! Although it sounds like some are
abandoning the newsgroups, and going over to the forums.

And what is also annoying is that some older newsgroups dedicated to
specific topics like Windows98, don't seem to have any counterparts
on the more generically-categorized forums, at least when I looked
at the web page access through that link I mentioned. There is no
forum for Win98, for example.

On the eternal-september.org, I checked their 'support' groups and the 2
I
went into was only SPAM, no moderators what-so-ever - great help for
people
that one is.

I'm still miss our helpers from here, and do realize they'll be 'moving'
over to other forums, but it's MS's loss.

If you subscribe to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general via Eternal
September, you will see exactly the same posts as you do on the
msnews.microsoft.com server you have been using. Nothing more. Nothing
less.

And for the immediate future, many of us plan to stick around. The OE
groups were removed from the MS servers June 1, but I am still there via
Eternal September.

 

[Bruce Hagen]

<snip>

Just to make this clear (and assuming I understand this right), she
could subscribe to that XP group WITHOUT having to use any NNTP bridge
as long as she has signed up for Eternal September (or some other NNTP
server).

So one has to ask, what's the point of using the bridge for anything,
when one can access the newsgroups directly, from any available NNTP
server?

Well, I can think of one disadvantage: as new MS "groups" are added,
they will never be added to the existing NNTP servers.

Or maybe somebody actually prefers using the bridge to access the forums
over direct NNTP server access via OE or the like???

The NNTP Bridge is a 'back door' to the Microsoft Answers news forums. The
are completely different than the Usenet groups you are accoustomed to.
None of the NNTP newsgroups are the same as the MS Answers forums.

While the current newsgroups will be available on non-MS servers for
perhaps a long time, I forsee a lot less legitimate posts and more spam &
trolls as time goes on.

Just to give you an idea, the top group here is MS Answers Forums as they
look using the bridge. The second group of 3 newsgroups are currently
still on the MS servers, and the last group is the MS newsgroups via
Eternal September. Note there is no similarity between the forums and
newsgroup names.

http://i32.tinypic.com/4jw7sn.png

 

[Miles]

* ~*Laughingstar*~ wrote, On 10-Jul-10 15:07:

that eternal.september thing (from a support NG standpoint) is ridiculous.
No moderation, all advertising - at best!!!

~*Laughingstar*~ wrote:
so much for believing I was doing so well! What will "we" do
without our mentors???

PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
See http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx

IE General, OE General, OE6, Windows Update, Win98 General,&
WLMessenger were some of the newsgroups dropped late last week.
IE6 was dropped in early June.

Roger wrote:
Can anyone inform me , from my return from holiday I find I have
lost newsgroups like windows outlook express, Hardware, and ie6
groups

--
Ciao -

CarolJhThompson
"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience, we are
spiritual beings having a human experience ( Pierre Teilhard de
Chardin)."

You must be listening to the wrong newsgroups. I subscribe to 9 NG's
under infernal September and rarely see an advertisement. Admittedly
none are MSFT

 

[Bruce Hagen]

Thanks for sending that picture to give me some idea, Bruce.
From what I can see and tell, I'm just not impressed with the
abandonment of the newsgroups, however. I just don't see how this is
benefiting anyone, and that screenshot just further illustrates my
point. I mean, just look at all the specific NNTP subgroups that don't
appear or have a direct counterpart in the MS Answers Forums. Those
"MS Answers Fforums" seem to be more broadly classified, with a bunch of
stuff thrown into one category.

You got that all correct, and I don't like the change either. But, when
life deals you lemonade, MS turns it into lemons. I either evolve, or go
fishing more.

 

[~*Laughingstar*~]

Bruce Hagen wrote:
<snip>

Bruce Hagen wrote:

On the eternal-september.org, I checked their 'support' groups
and the
2
I
went into was only SPAM, no moderators what-so-ever - great
help for people
that one is.

I'm still miss our helpers from here, and do realize they'll be
'moving'
over to other forums, but it's MS's loss.





If you subscribe to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general via
Eternal September, you will see exactly the same posts as you do
on the msnews.microsoft.com server you have been using. Nothing
more. Nothing
less.




Just to make this clear (and assuming I understand this right),
she could subscribe to that XP group WITHOUT having to use any
NNTP bridge as long as she has signed up for Eternal September
(or some other NNTP server).

So one has to ask, what's the point of using the bridge for
anything, when one can access the newsgroups directly, from any
available NNTP server?

Well, I can think of one disadvantage: as new MS "groups" are
added, they will never be added to the existing NNTP servers.

Or maybe somebody actually prefers using the bridge to access the
forums
over direct NNTP server access via OE or the like???


The NNTP Bridge is a 'back door' to the Microsoft Answers news
forums. The
are completely different than the Usenet groups you are
accoustomed to. None of the NNTP newsgroups are the same as the MS
Answers forums.

While the current newsgroups will be available on non-MS servers
for perhaps a long time, I forsee a lot less legitimate posts and
more spam &
trolls as time goes on.

Just to give you an idea, the top group here is MS Answers Forums
as they
look using the bridge. The second group of 3 newsgroups are
currently still on the MS servers, and the last group is the MS
newsgroups via Eternal September. Note there is no similarity
between the forums and newsgroup names.

http://i32.tinypic.com/4jw7sn.png
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

Thanks for sending that picture to give me some idea, Bruce.
From what I can see and tell, I'm just not impressed with the
abandonment of the newsgroups, however. I just don't see how this
is benefiting anyone, and that screenshot just further illustrates
my point. I mean, just look at all the specific NNTP subgroups
that don't appear or have a direct counterpart in the MS Answers
Forums. Those "MS Answers Fforums" seem to be more broadly
classified, with a bunch of stuff thrown into one category.

You got that all correct, and I don't like the change either. But,
when life deals you lemonade, MS turns it into lemons. I either
evolve, or go fishing more.

Now, as you' can see from what I'm told, my sig component in OE isn't
working right - and nothing's checked! Woe is me - just when I need'ja . . .
but agree with the lemonade solution, Bruce - no pun intended. Moi

 

[Guest]

~*Laughingstar*~ wrote:
Bill in Co wrote:
~*Laughingstar*~ wrote:
Bill in Co wrote:
~*Laughingstar*~ wrote:
Roger wrote:
You'll find most of us over in MS Answers forums:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windowsxp

Internet Explorer =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/threads

Outlook Express, etc. =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xpnetwork/threads

Windows Update =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistawu/threads

Hopefully your screenreader will get along with Answers
forums, too, LS.


[Snip] Can I add the above, to my OE window on left pane,
as I did with my MS NG's e g I have at moment listed
msnews.microsoft.com only this group heading left on it

Roger

Good question, Roger. I'm hanging on like blind bat in a cave.
:-(

Well, but what's the point, as long as some of these NNTP
newsgroups remain active?

Like you, I'm resisting crossing over. And there's still the
issue of which bridge (Community Forums, VS Microsoft).

Or the advantages, if any, over accessing them directly in IE,
at the Microsofts Answers Home Page:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx

Someone I trust said she is using Giganews for UseNet
groups....$2.99 a month subscription plan.

"http://tinyurl.com/22qy3xx

They seem to be in better control of spam..."

And Giganews has a LOT of newsgroups (and that price is nice)!

I still have an account with Earthlink, that offers the NNTP
newsgroups (which I think is indirectly handled through Giganews).

But there are several newsgroup servers available (a free one is
nntp.aioe.org) that you could sign-up for. Another free one may
be free.teranews.com, as I recall, or pay a small monthly fee and
get even better service (like with Giganews - $2.99 a month ain't
bad!).

OE isn't going out until 2014, when support for XP is supposed
to be discontinued. No security patches, etc. Though MS
doesn't *seem* to be saying those still using XP/OE won't be
able to do so...it will just be at their own risk.

Well, I still plan on using OE (and XP) well beyond 2014, so
that's a non-issue for me, and many, I expect. True, MS support
may be discontinued then, but there are other support avenues
available, like these newsgroups, or the forums allegedly
replacing them.

Firefox isn't a newsgroup reader...nor is Outlook by itself.
When I select
"News" in Outlook's menu bar, it takes me to OE for newsgroups.

Right. I don't have Outlook installed, and just use Outlook
Express for mail and news, which is fine by me (I don't need the
extra bells and whistles of Outlook).

Too many choices...and none ideal...is how I see it! It's shame
to break up
a supportive group like we had here -

Hey you valuable ones - ins't there an option in there, somehow??

Well, but there is this other option I mentioned - just go to
another newsgroup provider (like nntp.aioe.org, or
free.teranews.com, or Giganews, etc), where you can still access
the microsoft.public newsgroups. Either that, or we'll all end
up on the forums.

Is this separation anxiety? Methinks so. . .

Maybe. And all to what purpose? (since the NNTP format
seems generally preferable)

I'll miss those I've trusted.

But some of them are still here! Although it sounds like some are
abandoning the newsgroups, and going over to the forums.

And what is also annoying is that some older newsgroups dedicated to
specific topics like Windows98, don't seem to have any counterparts
on the more generically-categorized forums, at least when I looked
at the web page access through that link I mentioned. There is no
forum for Win98, for example.

On the eternal-september.org, I checked their 'support' groups and the 2 I
went into was only SPAM, no moderators what-so-ever - great help for
people
that one is.

I'm still miss our helpers from here, and do realize they'll be 'moving'
over to other forums, but it's MS's loss.

I'm reading all this in E-S and don't see any spam at all?

S

 

[~*Laughingstar*~]

Bill in Co wrote:
~*Laughingstar*~ wrote:
Bill in Co wrote:
~*Laughingstar*~ wrote:
Bill in Co wrote:
~*Laughingstar*~ wrote:
Roger wrote:
You'll find most of us over in MS Answers forums:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windowsxp

Internet Explorer =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/InternetExplorer/threads

Outlook Express, etc. =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/xpnetwork/threads

Windows Update =>
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vistawu/threads

Hopefully your screenreader will get along with Answers
forums, too, LS.


[Snip] Can I add the above, to my OE window on left
pane, as I did with my MS NG's e g I have at moment
listed msnews.microsoft.com only this group heading
left on it

Roger

Good question, Roger. I'm hanging on like blind bat in a
cave. :-(

Well, but what's the point, as long as some of these NNTP
newsgroups remain active?

Like you, I'm resisting crossing over. And there's still
the issue of which bridge (Community Forums, VS Microsoft).

Or the advantages, if any, over accessing them directly in
IE, at the Microsofts Answers Home Page:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx

Someone I trust said she is using Giganews for UseNet
groups....$2.99 a month subscription plan.

"http://tinyurl.com/22qy3xx

They seem to be in better control of spam..."

And Giganews has a LOT of newsgroups (and that price is nice)!

I still have an account with Earthlink, that offers the NNTP
newsgroups (which I think is indirectly handled through
Giganews).

But there are several newsgroup servers available (a free one
is nntp.aioe.org) that you could sign-up for. Another free
one may be free.teranews.com, as I recall, or pay a small
monthly fee and get even better service (like with Giganews -
$2.99 a month ain't bad!).

OE isn't going out until 2014, when support for XP is supposed
to be discontinued. No security patches, etc. Though MS
doesn't *seem* to be saying those still using XP/OE won't be
able to do so...it will just be at their own risk.

Well, I still plan on using OE (and XP) well beyond 2014, so
that's a non-issue for me, and many, I expect. True, MS
support may be discontinued then, but there are other support
avenues available, like these newsgroups, or the forums
allegedly replacing them.

Firefox isn't a newsgroup reader...nor is Outlook by itself.
When I select
"News" in Outlook's menu bar, it takes me to OE for
newsgroups.

Right. I don't have Outlook installed, and just use Outlook
Express for mail and news, which is fine by me (I don't need
the extra bells and whistles of Outlook).

Too many choices...and none ideal...is how I see it! It's
shame to break up
a supportive group like we had here -

Hey you valuable ones - ins't there an option in there,
somehow??

Well, but there is this other option I mentioned - just go to
another newsgroup provider (like nntp.aioe.org, or
free.teranews.com, or Giganews, etc), where you can still
access the microsoft.public newsgroups. Either that, or we'll
all end up on the forums.

Is this separation anxiety? Methinks so. . .

Maybe. And all to what purpose? (since the NNTP format
seems generally preferable)

I'll miss those I've trusted.

But some of them are still here! Although it sounds like some
are abandoning the newsgroups, and going over to the forums.

And what is also annoying is that some older newsgroups dedicated
to specific topics like Windows98, don't seem to have any
counterparts on the more generically-categorized forums, at least
when I looked at the web page access through that link I
mentioned. There is no forum for Win98, for example.

On the eternal-september.org, I checked their 'support' groups and
the 2 I went into was only SPAM, no moderators what-so-ever - great
help for people
that one is.

I'm still miss our helpers from here, and do realize they'll be
'moving' over to other forums, but it's MS's loss.

I'm reading all this in E-S and don't see any spam at all?

S

Let me qualify what I mentioned previously/earlier hereon -- that was in
their "support" groups; I've not been to their MS sections, yet.

 

[Daave]

Spamlet wrote:

Let me qualify what I mentioned previously/earlier hereon -- that was
in their "support" groups; I've not been to their MS sections, yet.

Then unsubscribe from the E-S "support" groups (I don't subscribe to
them) and go to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general and the other MS
groups of your choice. No spam.

 

[Steve Cochran]

You have to sign on with a "Windows Live" ID (same as "passport" ID was), but that's all. Try using the HTTP interface and you will be overjoyed with the Bridge approach.

steve

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

But do check to see what your via NNTP posts look like (formatting) in the
forum itself from time to time, please. You may be very surprised at what
you see.

And please remember to poll the forums for the most recent posts before you
start replying via NNTP Bridge. I'm seeing way too many posts being made
that clearly show the sender's not read all of the replies to the thread
yet.

 

[~*Laughingstar*~]

top-post: aren't we supposed to post below the comment we're responding
to??

 

[~*Laughingstar*~]

sorry, Dave, that isn't on the list of available 'groups' in E-S.