USB Wireless Network Adaptor and XP kink!

[jack0233]

Hello, and thanks for taking the time to read here.

My neighbor has an XP operating desktop HP machine. I can't tell you much more about it because it is not mine. He lives directly across the street. Ido most of his technical maintenance on his machine, to a point, I'm not ageek, a wannabe possibly but only slightly above the average user. I have been using pc's since 1988. He uses Verizon slow DSL and not only that his pc has been taking up to 4 minutes to boot up. So the other day I thought I'm taking this Linksys USB Wireless adapter over there and using it to access my drive and have the greater speed and access to my files on my computer. BTW, I wanted to use the adapter because his pc has no wireless. And thepurpose of my trip across the street was to help this issue with taking upto 4 minutes to boot up.

Now this Linksys adapter was given to me awhile back. I came home, plugged it into my older XP machine and it recognized it, installed it I suppose, do not remember, but it went right on and accepted and used it.

When I plugged it into his it did not work on his XP. It searched the Windows directory for the driver but did not find it. So I went to the internet and found the driver. Downloaded it but it would not install properly. I downloaded it from another site under another file name, it would not installit properly. I am perplexed as it was so easy to use with my XP machines.

Any suggestions why? What to do now? What if I copied the driver library ofmy XP machine and copied it to his XP machine. Do you think then it would find the driver as easily as it did mine and go on and work? If so what Windows folder has all the drivers available to XP?

BTW, 3.5 hours later and I had his machine booting up at 1 minute instead of the 4 minutes. Cleaned and meaned it's a runnin' machine. But I still would like to know how to get this Linksys Wireless adapter to work so when I go there I have access to files on mine I need and faster internet if I have to download something for him.

Thanks so much. I've written a lot but wanted to be thorough. jack

 

[jack0233]

Dave, I appreciate your genuine concern. But it was me on his computer, it was my DSL with me signing in and out without him knowing what was. So nothing was revealed to him or used by him. It was used by me. I will assume that I am allowed to use my service in anyway I want on any device as long asit is me, and me alone. I hope that put's you more at ease. Sheesh! ":-\

 

[jack0233]

From:















No it doesn't and what I stated still stands.





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Dave

Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk

http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Then sir, go ahead and report me. Go ahead! No where do I remember being warned of this by Verizon. And, what do you say to those who do not secure their wi-fi and then can be used by anyone that's within distance. I've neverheard of judgement's being passed out about them. You know this socialist society that's coming is going to have many police out there just ready to drop the law on everybody and anybody and any neighbor they can. Wannabe police. You have not helped me in the least, you'd done well just to keep to yourself. I don't accept what you said and it was a waste of time to post it and takes the effort completely off what I was trying to answer. Thanks for nothing. I what you say may stand in your mind but I don't accept it, there's too many loose ends tide up. Have you ever heard of anyone being prosecuted for using someone's unsecured wi-fi? Then pray tell, what is wrong with me, using my wi-fi, that I paid for. I gave no non-family person accessto my service. It was always in my hand.

 

[jack0233]

Hello, and thanks for taking the time to read here.



My neighbor has an XP operating desktop HP machine. I can't tell you muchmore about it because it is not mine. He lives directly across the street.I do most of his technical maintenance on his machine, to a point, I'm nota geek, a wannabe possibly but only slightly above the average user. I have been using pc's since 1988. He uses Verizon slow DSL and not only that his pc has been taking up to 4 minutes to boot up. So the other day I thoughtI'm taking this Linksys USB Wireless adapter over there and using it to access my drive and have the greater speed and access to my files on my computer. BTW, I wanted to use the adapter because his pc has no wireless. And the purpose of my trip across the street was to help this issue with taking up to 4 minutes to boot up.



Now this Linksys adapter was given to me awhile back. I came home, plugged it into my older XP machine and it recognized it, installed it I suppose,do not remember, but it went right on and accepted and used it.



When I plugged it into his it did not work on his XP. It searched the Windows directory for the driver but did not find it. So I went to the internet and found the driver. Downloaded it but it would not install properly. I downloaded it from another site under another file name, it would not install it properly. I am perplexed as it was so easy to use with my XP machines..



Any suggestions why? What to do now? What if I copied the driver library of my XP machine and copied it to his XP machine. Do you think then it would find the driver as easily as it did mine and go on and work? If so what Windows folder has all the drivers available to XP?



BTW, 3.5 hours later and I had his machine booting up at 1 minute insteadof the 4 minutes. Cleaned and meaned it's a runnin' machine. But I still would like to know how to get this Linksys Wireless adapter to work so when I go there I have access to files on mine I need and faster internet if I have to download something for him.



Thanks so much. I've written a lot but wanted to be thorough. jack

CALL VERIZON ... I just did and they assured me I DID NOTHING WRONG OR CRIMINAL. So if you feel you want to stick by your statement ... fine, I've went to the source. NOW, maybe I can wait for some real answer to my problem and not run into the social police. smh ":-\

 

[jack0233]

Hello, and thanks for taking the time to read here.



My neighbor has an XP operating desktop HP machine. I can't tell you muchmore about it because it is not mine. He lives directly across the street.I do most of his technical maintenance on his machine, to a point, I'm nota geek, a wannabe possibly but only slightly above the average user. I have been using pc's since 1988. He uses Verizon slow DSL and not only that his pc has been taking up to 4 minutes to boot up. So the other day I thoughtI'm taking this Linksys USB Wireless adapter over there and using it to access my drive and have the greater speed and access to my files on my computer. BTW, I wanted to use the adapter because his pc has no wireless. And the purpose of my trip across the street was to help this issue with taking up to 4 minutes to boot up.



Now this Linksys adapter was given to me awhile back. I came home, plugged it into my older XP machine and it recognized it, installed it I suppose,do not remember, but it went right on and accepted and used it.



When I plugged it into his it did not work on his XP. It searched the Windows directory for the driver but did not find it. So I went to the internet and found the driver. Downloaded it but it would not install properly. I downloaded it from another site under another file name, it would not install it properly. I am perplexed as it was so easy to use with my XP machines..



Any suggestions why? What to do now? What if I copied the driver library of my XP machine and copied it to his XP machine. Do you think then it would find the driver as easily as it did mine and go on and work? If so what Windows folder has all the drivers available to XP?



BTW, 3.5 hours later and I had his machine booting up at 1 minute insteadof the 4 minutes. Cleaned and meaned it's a runnin' machine. But I still would like to know how to get this Linksys Wireless adapter to work so when I go there I have access to files on mine I need and faster internet if I have to download something for him.



Thanks so much. I've written a lot but wanted to be thorough. jack

TO MR.LIPMAN, call Verizon like I just did and explained what I'd done. Theassured me IT'S NOT A CRIME, nor did I anything wrong. So now that you've dragged this thing out without being a help at all you can go back to your policeing and not really having anything of value to add except to police and drop the law, your law. You'll be good for the coming regime. smh

 

[jack0233]

From:














Dude. I have read the ToS and the specific clause "...you may not provide

Internet access to third parties through a wired or wireless connection...."



I was telling you of your responsibilities, under the contract you signed,

of your subscription. Please don't turn around and be a jerk. Of course

its not a crime. Its a civil matter, not a crminal matter.



What you did makes no sense. If you were going to your neighbour to

fix/optimize his PC, you shouldn't be setting it up to access your WiFi.

You should take your utilities to his PC via a Flash Drive or USB hard disk.



--

Dave

Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk

http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Jerk? I won't respond. You have obliterated my whole need and appeal for help with this. I DID NOT SET HIM UP TO USE MY WIRELESS. He has no wireless in his pc at all. I plugge in a USB adapter, which by the way never worked, only for my use while I was there to access my files across the street. Theintention was, and is and did happen that when I walked away that was the end of my services there. It was not intended to be permanent. I don't seewhat your problem is and if anyone else is following I'm sure they wonder where your coming from? It makes no good sense. If my friends were outside my home with a tablet, and I wanted to log on my wireless signal for my use, that moment, and then log off there's nothing wrong. That's all I was doing there. I don't know where you got the idea I was going to let him use mywi-fi. In the first place he doesn't need it, he's hardwired and has Verizon DSL. You're just totally off base with the whole idea.

 

[dadiOH]

Jerk? I won't respond. You have obliterated my whole need
and appeal for help with this. I DID NOT SET HIM UP TO
USE MY WIRELESS. He has no wireless in his pc at all. I
plugge in a USB adapter, which by the way never worked,
only for my use while I was there to access my files
across the street. The intention was, and is and did
happen that when I walked away that was the end of my
services there. It was not intended to be permanent. I
don't see what your problem is and if anyone else is
following I'm sure they wonder where your coming from? It
makes no good sense. If my friends were outside my home
with a tablet, and I wanted to log on my wireless signal
for my use, that moment, and then log off there's nothing
wrong. That's all I was doing there. I don't know where
you got the idea I was going to let him use my wi-fi. In
the first place he doesn't need it, he's hardwired and
has Verizon DSL. You're just totally off base with the
whole idea.

Either way, it really doesn't matter. It is over. Done with. It's a dead
horse and beating it by either of you doesn't get anything solved or your
original question answered..

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dadiOH
____________________________

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[jack0233]

"jacote in message























Either way, it really doesn't matter. It is over. Done with. It's a dead

horse and beating it by either of you doesn't get anything solved or your

original question answered..



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dadiOH

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dadiOH, precisely why I'm so incensed. I only came on to find some knowledge. Not to be misunderstood and policed. It's so easy to hide behind anonymity with the internet and act a role. If you don't have anything to contribute then just shut up. No one needs policeing, we all have enough. Now, I'vepolled a moderator to delete the whole thing here, it's ruined. I don't know if he will or not. But here's what I've garnered from another forum withthe same question, thank God not the same first answer, in fact, 4 other forums and not one came back with that ditty. One suggested that maybe he doesn't have Service Pack 3 installed. A suggestion which I find viable. Thisneighbor does not keep up good on things like updates and possibly this service pack is the answer. I am going to check. Thanks! ":-\

 

[Chris S.]

Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?

Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?

Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net

dadiOH, precisely why I'm so incensed. I only came on to find some
knowledge. Not to be misunderstood and policed. It's so easy to hide behind
anonymity with the internet and act a role. If you don't have anything to
contribute then just shut up. No one needs policeing, we all have enough.
Now, I've polled a moderator to delete the whole thing here, it's ruined. I
don't know if he will or not. But here's what I've garnered from another
forum with the same question, thank God not the same first answer, in fact,
4 other forums and not one came back with that ditty. One suggested that
maybe he doesn't have Service Pack 3 installed. A suggestion which I find
viable. This neighbor does not keep up good on things like updates and
possibly this service pack is the answer. I am going to check. Thanks! ":-\

Jack0,
Moderator? Now that's funny! There is no moderator here. You are posting to
a newsgroup!
Your Google Group "Forum" is leeching from an ummoderated newsgroup! Guess
you didn't
know that. Some newsgroup posters block Google Group posts. I'm starting to
understand why...

Chris

 

[jack0233]

Hello, and thanks for taking the time to read here.



My neighbor has an XP operating desktop HP machine. I can't tell you muchmore about it because it is not mine. He lives directly across the street.I do most of his technical maintenance on his machine, to a point, I'm nota geek, a wannabe possibly but only slightly above the average user. I have been using pc's since 1988. He uses Verizon slow DSL and not only that his pc has been taking up to 4 minutes to boot up. So the other day I thoughtI'm taking this Linksys USB Wireless adapter over there and using it to access my drive and have the greater speed and access to my files on my computer. BTW, I wanted to use the adapter because his pc has no wireless. And the purpose of my trip across the street was to help this issue with taking up to 4 minutes to boot up.



Now this Linksys adapter was given to me awhile back. I came home, plugged it into my older XP machine and it recognized it, installed it I suppose,do not remember, but it went right on and accepted and used it.



When I plugged it into his it did not work on his XP. It searched the Windows directory for the driver but did not find it. So I went to the internet and found the driver. Downloaded it but it would not install properly. I downloaded it from another site under another file name, it would not install it properly. I am perplexed as it was so easy to use with my XP machines..



Any suggestions why? What to do now? What if I copied the driver library of my XP machine and copied it to his XP machine. Do you think then it would find the driver as easily as it did mine and go on and work? If so what Windows folder has all the drivers available to XP?



BTW, 3.5 hours later and I had his machine booting up at 1 minute insteadof the 4 minutes. Cleaned and meaned it's a runnin' machine. But I still would like to know how to get this Linksys Wireless adapter to work so when I go there I have access to files on mine I need and faster internet if I have to download something for him.



Thanks so much. I've written a lot but wanted to be thorough. jack

Oh, there's not moderator? That's odd, since I found his name, posted him an email and asked to have the post removed. Magically, this is appearing across the top of the post.

Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived. This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Aug 9).

So I guess I contacted a ghost with a fake name. And I didn't make the posttrash. The other "Dude, Jerk" as he called me did. And fortunately I have answers from another forum.

AND, there is a moderator, I contacted him and my request is being answered..

 

[Paul]

Hello, and thanks for taking the time to read here.

My neighbor has an XP operating desktop HP machine. I can't tell you much more about it because it is not mine. He lives directly across the street. I do most of his technical maintenance on his machine, to a point, I'm not a geek, a wannabe possibly but only slightly above the average user. I have been using pc's since 1988. He uses Verizon slow DSL and not only that his pc has been taking up to 4 minutes to boot up. So the other day I thought I'm taking this Linksys USB Wireless adapter over there and using it to access my drive and have the greater speed and access to my files on my computer. BTW, I wanted to use the adapter because his pc has no wireless. And the purpose of my trip across the street was to help this issue with taking up to 4 minutes to boot up.

Now this Linksys adapter was given to me awhile back. I came home, plugged it into my older XP machine and it recognized it, installed it I suppose, do not remember, but it went right on and accepted and used it.

When I plugged it into his it did not work on his XP. It searched the Windows directory for the driver but did not find it. So I went to the internet and found the driver. Downloaded it but it would not install properly. I downloaded it from another site under another file name, it would not install it properly. I am perplexed as it was so easy to use with my XP machines.

Any suggestions why? What to do now? What if I copied the driver library of my XP machine and copied it to his XP machine. Do you think then it would find the driver as easily as it did mine and go on and work? If so what Windows folder has all the drivers available to XP?

BTW, 3.5 hours later and I had his machine booting up at 1 minute instead of the 4 minutes. Cleaned and meaned it's a runnin' machine. But I still would like to know how to get this Linksys Wireless adapter to work so when I go there I have access to files on mine I need and faster internet if I have to download something for him.

Thanks so much. I've written a lot but wanted to be thorough. jack

Is the neighbor's laptop patched to SP3 ?

Go to the "System" control panel, and the details are printed
on the main pane of the panel.

There are two ways to manage wireless. Wireless Zero Config (from
Microsoft). That might require just an NDIS driver for the Wifi
(a smaller package). Or, some bloated package with custom management,
which comes with the adapter. I'm no expert either, and I understand
in some cases, these are not that interchangeable. In other cases,
you have enough software options to use either.

If we had the Linksys model number, we could pop that into Google,
and see if there are any Wireless Zero Config examples out there.
An NDIS only driver package for the wireless, could be small, like
a megabyte or less. NDIS is the same flavor of driver used by NICs
(NICs without a fancy custom GUI package).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Zero_Configuration

In some cases, if you open the downloaded bloated installer package
with 7ZIP, you can navigate and find an NDIS folder. And use
the INF in that to install just NDIS.

Paul

 

[Paul in Houston TX]

Oh, there's not moderator? That's odd, since I found his name, posted
him an email and asked to have the post removed. Magically, this is
appearing across the top of the post.

Note: The author of this message requested that it not be archived.
This message will be removed from Groups in 6 days (Aug 9).

So I guess I contacted a ghost with a fake name. And I didn't make
the post trash. The other "Dude, Jerk" as he called me did. And
fortunately I have answers from another forum.

AND, there is a moderator, I contacted him and my request is being
answered.

There is NO moderator on microsoft.public.windowsxp.general.
Your message cannot be removed from the 200 million
servers that it now resides on.
My suggestion: KF this thread and start a new one and don't
respond to answers that you don't like.

 

[jack0233]

Is the neighbor's laptop patched to SP3 ?



Go to the "System" control panel, and the details are printed

on the main pane of the panel.



There are two ways to manage wireless. Wireless Zero Config (from

Microsoft). That might require just an NDIS driver for the Wifi

(a smaller package). Or, some bloated package with custom management,

which comes with the adapter. I'm no expert either, and I understand

in some cases, these are not that interchangeable. In other cases,

you have enough software options to use either.



If we had the Linksys model number, we could pop that into Google,

and see if there are any Wireless Zero Config examples out there.

An NDIS only driver package for the wireless, could be small, like

a megabyte or less. NDIS is the same flavor of driver used by NICs

(NICs without a fancy custom GUI package).



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_Zero_Configuration



In some cases, if you open the downloaded bloated installer package

with 7ZIP, you can navigate and find an NDIS folder. And use

the INF in that to install just NDIS.



Paul

Paul, thanks so much for a direct and genuine response. I am going to cut and paste it to save it. Again, Paul, I appreciate your kind concern. jep ":-D

For the others here that think there is no moderators. Here's a link to theModerators responsibilities to each group, one of which is ...

Monitoring

Daily monitoring the google group threads and make sure things go accordingto the guidelines.

Moderate conversations or discussions where the guidelines are being calledinto question.


http://www.mordecaicac.org/resource-center/list-serve-manager-duties

 

[Nil]

For the others here that think there is no moderators. Here's a
link to the Moderators responsibilities to each group, one of
which is ...

Monitoring

Daily monitoring the google group threads and make sure things go
according to the guidelines.

Moderate conversations or discussions where the guidelines are
being called into question.

http://www.mordecaicac.org/resource-center/list-serve-manager-duties

You are quite mistaken. There is NO MODERATOR for this newsgroup.
You have pointed out a moderator for something called "Mordecai
Citizens Advisory Council Google Group". That has NOTHING AT ALL to
do with this Usenet newsgroup, microsoft.public.windowsxp.general.
This is NOT a Google group, it's part of the venerable global
distributed messaging network called "Usenet" (you can read about it
at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet). It happens to be mirrored by
Google Groups, but it is not part of Google nor in any way
controlled by them.

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

For the others here that think there is no moderators. Here's a link to the Moderators responsibilities to each group, one of which is ...

Monitoring

Daily monitoring the google group threads and make sure things go according to the guidelines.

Moderate conversations or discussions where the guidelines are being called into question.


http://www.mordecaicac.org/resource-center/list-serve-manager-duties

LOL! Sorry to tell you that you are completely wrong. There is *no*
moderator. And despite what you think, this is *not* a Google group.
This is a Usenet newsgroup, carried on hundreds or thousands of news
servers all over the world; Google leeches the posts from them and
carries them on their site.

And by the way, as you perhaps can tell from the newsgroup title, this
used to be a Microsoft newsgroup, but it was also carried on those
same hundreds or thousands of news servers. Microsoft dropped all
their newsgroups about three years ago, but they stayed in existence
because of all the people who continue to post on them, and because of
all the servers that continue to carry it.

One other point: if you want to continue to post on this or any other
newsgroup, I strongly recommend that you stay far away from posting on
Googlegroups; it's a good place to search for newsgroup posts, but a
terrible place to post from. That's largely because the overwhelming
majority of those who post from googlegroups are extremely ignorant
and therefore are killfiled by many of the most knowledgeable
newsgroup participants. So drop Google groups, get yourself a decent
newsreader (many are free), and sign up with a decent news server
(many of those are also free, such as news.eternal-september.org).

 

[dadiOH]

dadiOH, precisely why I'm so incensed. I only came on to
find some knowledge. Not to be misunderstood and policed.

Jack, this is Usenet. People make comments and those are often
misconstrued. My best advice - meant in a friendly way - is to not let your
shorts get wadded up so easily.
_____________________

Now, I've polled a moderator to delete the whole
thing here,

There is no moderator.
____________________

it's ruined.

It's not "ruined", just sidetracked.
__________________________

But here's what I've garnered from another forum with the
same question,

This isn't a forum, it is a Usenet group.

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dadiOH
____________________________

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[dadiOH]

Just like your use of Google Groups is faulty so was the
idea of connecting a neighbour's computer to your network
by bringing over a USB WiFo device.

Why wouldn't a USB wifi receiver on a different machine see his home network
(assuming it was within range)?


--

dadiOH
____________________________

Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race?
Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change?
Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net

 

[Paul]

For the others here that think there is no moderators. Here's a link
to the Moderators responsibilities to each group, one of which is ...

Monitoring

Daily monitoring the google group threads and make sure things go according to the guidelines.

Moderate conversations or discussions where the guidelines are being called into question.

http://www.mordecaicac.org/resource-center/list-serve-manager-duties

There is USENET, and, there are interconnected systems.

In USENET, a group name will have .moderated on the end, if
the group is set up for moderation. Posts in such groups,
go to one or more moderators, who "Approve" a post. Moderated
groups are created by RFD, voting and so on. The hard part,
is finding moderators to do the job of approving posts.

The name of this group is "microsoft.public.windowsxp.general",
with no .moderated on the end. That means, any user with posting
capability on any one of the many peer news servers, can post to the
group. If someone gets out of line, they can be reported to their
particular news server admin, who can "TOS" them. If you look
at the Terms Of Service agreements on a lot of these servers,
the rules are quite lax, as the administrator hates to micro-manage
the membership list. Only things with legal consequences, get
action (some of which are country specific, such as what
could be discussed on a server located in Germany).

Other "leeches" off USENET, can be located on web sites. The web
operator may present a "front", as if they are groups hosted solely
on the web server. When in fact, the web site uses "Newssync" to
inject messages into USENET. If you have a problem with such a
site (spamming from HTFC for example), you use their abuse contact info,
to have the spammers account cut of. Some of those sites, for example,
had to cut off .sig files for their web users, due to the prevalence
of signature spam coming from those servers.

Google is another leech, with a piss-poor management of their
users. You can become a Google Grouper, and get away with all sorts
of shit. It takes multiple reports (from different individual users)
of a problem (if you can figure out where to send the reports), to
get Google to take action. And even when they do something, the
individual can just create another account, and go right back at it.

Another example of moderation, is bots which automatically attack
spam. It is up to each server administrator, whether they will accept
"cancels" or "supersedes" from such bots. One of our posters
here got targeted by one of those, when he crossposted just a little
too much. His posts with the excessive crossposting, were getting
deleted.

So the anarchy that is USENET, has quite a complicated structure.
Lots of things can happen. And it takes a while to learn about
all the various mechanisms. In this case, with no .moderated
in the name, there is no reason to expect any sort of filtering
or moderation. And to exceed the TOS on a lot of servers, you'd
have to be promising to murder someone, to get TOSsed The
threshold for simple disagreements, is quite high.

Does a trip to USENET require a thick skin ?
Yes, yes it does.

The trick, is not replying to every post that comes back.

Paul (replying from USENET)

 

[dadiOH]

For the others here that think there is no moderators.
Here's a link to the Moderators responsibilities to each
group, one of which is ...

Monitoring

Daily monitoring the google group threads and make sure
things go according to the guidelines.

Jack, Jack, Jack...you are digging a really deep hole. You are digging it
because you don't understand the difference between Usenet and Google
Groups.

As a size analogy, Google Groups is your next door neighbor; Usenet is the
United States.

Your messages will be around for many months on Usenet and will be happily
coughed up when desired.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

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[Michael T.]

David, sorry but you sound like one of those people who always drives the
speed and lives in fear of the consequences of removing the warning tag from
your mattress.

Relax dude. So sound silly.