Upload speed to Web Mail vs. POP 3

[Bishoop]

WinXP Pro/SP1

I understand that web mail uses port 80 and POP email uses port 110.

I can upload an email with a 130KB attachment via my POP server in a few
seconds. The same message/attachment to a web mail server (using the same
Internet connection) takes over 4 minutes. I have tested this with two
completely separate web mail servers (using the same Internet connection)
and the slow results are the same.

Actually I get the same 4+ minute upload speed on two entirely unrelated web
mail servers. I have run the test several times and the upload to both web
mail servers is equal within a few seconds.

Can the ISP cap the upload speed of port 80 independent of port 110? If this
is possible it might explain the tremendous difference in times.

Any thoughts?

 

[*Vanguard*]

Bishoop said in news:[email protected]:

WinXP Pro/SP1

I understand that web mail uses port 80 and POP email uses port 110.

I can upload an email with a 130KB attachment via my POP server in a
few seconds. The same message/attachment to a web mail server (using
the same Internet connection) takes over 4 minutes. I have tested
this with two completely separate web mail servers (using the same
Internet connection) and the slow results are the same.

Actually I get the same 4+ minute upload speed on two entirely
unrelated web mail servers. I have run the test several times and
the upload to both web mail servers is equal within a few seconds.

Can the ISP cap the upload speed of port 80 independent of port 110?
If this is possible it might explain the tremendous difference in
times.

Any thoughts?

You sure your e-mail provider doesn't include virus scanning on
attachments sent using their webmail interface? With POP3, they can
perform the virus scan after their server receives the e-mail. With
webmail, they do the checking after the upload has completed but before
compiling the e-mail to push into their server. I suspect the upload
went quick but the webmail interface waits to continue until some
checking has been performed on the uploaded file.

What happens when you sent e-mails to their POP3 and webmail servers
that has no attachments but is a huge message (so the e-mail is huge but
not because of an attachment)? Find the largest .txt file you have on
your drive and append several copies of it into a message so it is a
huge e-mail (around the 130KB you were testing although the size of the
e-mail is actually much larger than that due to the conversion to
encoded text for the attachment, so make it 200KB). Then test your
upload speeds to POP3 and webmail.

 

[Jim Macklin]

Web mail is usually free, POP mail you pay for, there is no
profit in fast web mail.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.


| WinXP Pro/SP1
|
| I understand that web mail uses port 80 and POP email uses
port 110.
|
| I can upload an email with a 130KB attachment via my POP
server in a few
| seconds. The same message/attachment to a web mail server
(using the same
| Internet connection) takes over 4 minutes. I have tested
this with two
| completely separate web mail servers (using the same
Internet connection)
| and the slow results are the same.
|
| Actually I get the same 4+ minute upload speed on two
entirely unrelated web
| mail servers. I have run the test several times and the
upload to both web
| mail servers is equal within a few seconds.
|
| Can the ISP cap the upload speed of port 80 independent of
port 110? If this
| is possible it might explain the tremendous difference in
times.
|
| Any thoughts?
|
|

 

[FireFox]

I believe in this case, the web mail has to deal with the internet at
large. When you connect to your POP server you only have 1 +/- hops and
usually a very good connection. Using web mail, you have to deal with
packet loss, and numerous hops over questionable connections. Just my 2c.

(-: FireFox

 

[Bishoop]

| WinXP Pro/SP1
|
| I understand that web mail uses port 80 and POP email uses port 110.
|
| I can upload an email with a 130KB attachment via my POP server in a few
| seconds. The same message/attachment to a web mail server (using the same
| Internet connection) takes over 4 minutes. I have tested this with two
| completely separate web mail servers (using the same Internet connection)
| and the slow results are the same.
|
| Actually I get the same 4+ minute upload speed on two entirely unrelated
web
| mail servers. I have run the test several times and the upload to both
web
| mail servers is equal within a few seconds.
|
| Can the ISP cap the upload speed of port 80 independent of port 110? If
this
| is possible it might explain the tremendous difference in times.
|
| Any thoughts?

I tried sending the same attachment to the same web mail servers and POP
servers using the same ISP from my home. When sending the attachment to
both web mail servers the transfer time was less than 5 seconds.

Here's the differences:

My home system:
WinXP Pro/SP1
AMD Athlon XP 3000+
1.GB RAM connected directly to ISP network.

Problem system:
WinXP Pro/SP1
Pentium II (660MHz)
256MB RAM
Connected with one other PC through Linksis router then to ISP.

Apparently the only differences are the PC/router.

I watched the attachment being sent to the web mail server using the
Performance MSC set to monitor bytes sent. There was a burst of data for
about two seconds right at the beginning then a long 4 minute pause while
the web server digested the upload and was ready for another.

Any ideas what in the system can cause a delay like I described?

Thanks again to all that have replied.

 

[Tumbleweed]

WinXP Pro/SP1

I understand that web mail uses port 80 and POP email uses port 110.

I can upload an email with a 130KB attachment via my POP server in a few
seconds. The same message/attachment to a web mail server (using the same
Internet connection) takes over 4 minutes. I have tested this with two
completely separate web mail servers (using the same Internet connection)
and the slow results are the same.

Actually I get the same 4+ minute upload speed on two entirely unrelated web
mail servers. I have run the test several times and the upload to both web
mail servers is equal within a few seconds.

Can the ISP cap the upload speed of port 80 independent of port 110? If this
is possible it might explain the tremendous difference in times.

Any thoughts?

The speed you upload is down to dozens of different variables on the
receiving computer. But at the root of them all will be the fact they dont
want to spend lots of money on a web mail service. So you'll have to live
with it.

 

[Bishoop]

|
| | > WinXP Pro/SP1
| >
| > I understand that web mail uses port 80 and POP email uses port 110.
| >
| > I can upload an email with a 130KB attachment via my POP server in a few
| > seconds. The same message/attachment to a web mail server (using the
same
| > Internet connection) takes over 4 minutes. I have tested this with two
| > completely separate web mail servers (using the same Internet
connection)
| > and the slow results are the same.
| >
| > Actually I get the same 4+ minute upload speed on two entirely unrelated
| web
| > mail servers. I have run the test several times and the upload to both
| web
| > mail servers is equal within a few seconds.
| >
| > Can the ISP cap the upload speed of port 80 independent of port 110? If
| this
| > is possible it might explain the tremendous difference in times.
| >
| > Any thoughts?
| >
|
| The speed you upload is down to dozens of different variables on the
| receiving computer. But at the root of them all will be the fact they dont
| want to spend lots of money on a web mail service. So you'll have to live
| with it.
|
| --
| Tumbleweed
|
| Remove my socks for email address


Why are the upload speeds to the same two web mail servers consistently much
faster from a different PC using the same ISP? I'm talking <5 seconds vs.

4 minutes for the same attached file?

To explain a little further, our community is wired as a 10Mb Ethernet LAN.
The fast PC and the slow PC are on this same network about 1000 feet apart
in two different buildings. We connect to a local server that provides the
connection to a Sprint gateway.

If you care to, see my message in this thread with the subject: upload speed
to web mail vs. POP 3-New Input.

Thanks....