iefl said:
Bill Sanderson MVP said:well--that puts you on sp2, so that's good. I don't know what is happening
in your my Computer, properties, but maybe it is a character set or language
difference of some sort??
A better guide is probably "winver" which should read:
Version 5.1 (Build 2600.xpsp.060210-156 : Service Pack 2)
--
iefl said:at the command prompt it says XP [Version 5.1.2600]
I'll give the NVidia drivers another shot but I think I tried it and that
didn't work.
Thanks again!
Ivan
Bill Sanderson MVP said:Hmm - you seem to have something which is impossible! At a command
prompt,
when you type "ver" and hit enter, what comes back?
WHQL is Windows Hardware Quality Labs---so drivers that are certified as
passing this certification for your OS shouldn't blue-screen as often as
those which are not (!)
For example on this page:
http://www.nvidia.com/page/partner_certified_drivers.html
they are clear that 84.26 Quadro drivers are WHQL certified. There are
likely to be newer, beta, or not yet certified drivers at any given point
for a given product, if new drivers are still being produced for it.
--
About the SP: I'm typing what is printed black on grey in the Control
Panel -
System window: Service Pack 5.
Final question: what do you mean by "WHQL'd"?
Cheers
Ivan
:
Well--I'm still slightly lost. SP2 is the newest available for
Windows
XP.
For Office, it depends on the Office version, and I'm not certain of
the
answer, but for Windows--I doubt there will be an sp4 for XP, and SP3
is
still a year away--2H 2007.
That's why I'm confused.
Get SP2 on the old one, sometime when you've nothing else to do. If
that
box that has the bad power switch runs XP, set it up with an autologon
via
tweakui, and use Remote Desktop to make use of it.
On Nvidia--no direct experience, but lots of reports read. If on the
latest
and greatest, back off a version. Consider going with the newest
Microsoft
has WHQL'd rather than the bleeding edge ones direct from Nvidia.
--
Oops, forgot to check the "Notify me of replies" checkbox
There was never a Win 2000 on either machines. There were bought
from
Dell
in 2002 with XP Professional installed.
Bizarre thing was that I upgraded computer nr. 2 (the "new"
computer)
to
SP2, but I didn't do that immediately for computer 1 (the "old")
because
there was several "non-mainstream" software on it and I didn't want
to
risk
problems. I did however have my automatic update switch on and when
some
time later I finally decided to switch to SP2, I could no longer
perform
this
upgrade since. So it seems I got the "SP4" grade wihouth passing the
SP2
stage.
It's a mess (and then I didn't even start on the problems with the
NVidia
drivers - got a blue screen again today - on the "new" computer with
reference to some NV4 driver or so).
Anyway, think the easiest thing to do is to forget about the old
computer's
hard-disk and just plug in one from another Dell that has other
problems
(bad
construction of the on/off button makes it sometimes impossible to
power
up
again unless you perform a rain dance while at the same time swing a
dead
chicken above your head and recite the Kabbala).
Thanks for all your efforts guys. Remind me to buy you a beer the
next
time
you're in Leuven (Belgium).
Cheers,
Ivan
:
Bill, Google XP Professional version 2002. I believe it is an old
OEM
version designed to replace NT...Usually available on Ebay
these
days
for cheap.
--
Regards, Dave
Bill Sanderson MVP wrote:
Hmm - some typos here.
Reading between the lines, this is what I think I am hearing:
You just did a move between Windows 2000 SP4 and Windows XP SP2.
The "old" machine is Windows 2000 SP4, and the new one is Windows
XP
SP2.
You are fine on the XP machine, but can't get the installer into
place
on
the Windows 2000 machine, with the various errors posted?
Hi again,
I'm running XP Professional Version 2002 Service Pack 5 on a
Dell
Inspiron
5150
3GHz 512 Mb
BTW, the FAST option you recommended worked (apart from an error
in
the
very
final stage). Thanks!
Installed Defender on the new computer and it's scanning as I
type
(but
I
still would like the old computer in a safe way as well).
Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it!
Cheers,
Ivan
:
Gotcha. I won't be able to respond further 'til after 9 or so
tonight--I
need to read back over the thread and think further on this,
clearly!
If you haven't already posted the version of Windows and the
service
pack
level, please do that, if you have a chance.
--
Well ... Windows Installer is not on the list of programs nor
can
it
be
found
under the "Add/Remove Windows components".
:
Can you try:
1) download fresh from:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=893803
(unless you are sure what you have available to do the
install
is
the
same
code posted there)
2) uninstall Windows Installer 3.1 via control panel, add or
remove
programs, Windows Installer 3.1
3) Install from the code downloaded in step 1, or what you
already
have
available.
See whether that helps.
--
Picture this:
I never managed to upgrade MS AntiSpyware (and today also
failed
installing
Defender 2) because during installation there was the
request
for
Installer
3.1 but when I wanted to install Installer 3.1 from the MS
website
it
refused
to install with the following error: KB893803v2
"Setup has detected that the service Pack version of this
system
is
newer
then the update you are applying. There is no need to
install
this
update"
???
iefl said:Well, winver gives a familiar result:
Version 5.1 (build 2600.xpsp2.030422-1633 : Service Pack 5)
BTW, I have an English OS
cheers
Bill Sanderson MVP said:well--that puts you on sp2, so that's good. I don't know what is
happening
in your my Computer, properties, but maybe it is a character set or
language
difference of some sort??
A better guide is probably "winver" which should read:
Version 5.1 (Build 2600.xpsp.060210-156 : Service Pack 2)
--
iefl said:at the command prompt it says XP [Version 5.1.2600]
I'll give the NVidia drivers another shot but I think I tried it and
that
didn't work.
Thanks again!
Ivan
:
Hmm - you seem to have something which is impossible! At a command
prompt,
when you type "ver" and hit enter, what comes back?
WHQL is Windows Hardware Quality Labs---so drivers that are certified
as
passing this certification for your OS shouldn't blue-screen as often
as
those which are not (!)
For example on this page:
http://www.nvidia.com/page/partner_certified_drivers.html
they are clear that 84.26 Quadro drivers are WHQL certified. There
are
likely to be newer, beta, or not yet certified drivers at any given
point
for a given product, if new drivers are still being produced for it.
--
About the SP: I'm typing what is printed black on grey in the
Control
Panel -
System window: Service Pack 5.
Final question: what do you mean by "WHQL'd"?
Cheers
Ivan
:
Well--I'm still slightly lost. SP2 is the newest available for
Windows
XP.
For Office, it depends on the Office version, and I'm not certain
of
the
answer, but for Windows--I doubt there will be an sp4 for XP, and
SP3
is
still a year away--2H 2007.
That's why I'm confused.
Get SP2 on the old one, sometime when you've nothing else to do.
If
that
box that has the bad power switch runs XP, set it up with an
autologon
via
tweakui, and use Remote Desktop to make use of it.
On Nvidia--no direct experience, but lots of reports read. If on
the
latest
and greatest, back off a version. Consider going with the newest
Microsoft
has WHQL'd rather than the bleeding edge ones direct from Nvidia.
--
Oops, forgot to check the "Notify me of replies" checkbox
There was never a Win 2000 on either machines. There were bought
from
Dell
in 2002 with XP Professional installed.
Bizarre thing was that I upgraded computer nr. 2 (the "new"
computer)
to
SP2, but I didn't do that immediately for computer 1 (the "old")
because
there was several "non-mainstream" software on it and I didn't
want
to
risk
problems. I did however have my automatic update switch on and
when
some
time later I finally decided to switch to SP2, I could no longer
perform
this
upgrade since. So it seems I got the "SP4" grade wihouth passing
the
SP2
stage.
It's a mess (and then I didn't even start on the problems with
the
NVidia
drivers - got a blue screen again today - on the "new" computer
with
reference to some NV4 driver or so).
Anyway, think the easiest thing to do is to forget about the old
computer's
hard-disk and just plug in one from another Dell that has other
problems
(bad
construction of the on/off button makes it sometimes impossible
to
power
up
again unless you perform a rain dance while at the same time
swing a
dead
chicken above your head and recite the Kabbala).
Thanks for all your efforts guys. Remind me to buy you a beer the
next
time
you're in Leuven (Belgium).
Cheers,
Ivan
:
Bill, Google XP Professional version 2002. I believe it is an
old
OEM
version designed to replace NT...
these
days
for cheap.
--
Regards, Dave
Bill Sanderson MVP wrote:
Hmm - some typos here.
Reading between the lines, this is what I think I am hearing:
You just did a move between Windows 2000 SP4 and Windows XP
SP2.
The "old" machine is Windows 2000 SP4, and the new one is
Windows
XP
SP2.
You are fine on the XP machine, but can't get the installer
into
place
on
the Windows 2000 machine, with the various errors posted?
Hi again,
I'm running XP Professional Version 2002 Service Pack 5 on a
Dell
Inspiron
5150
3GHz 512 Mb
BTW, the FAST option you recommended worked (apart from an
error
in
the
very
final stage). Thanks!
Installed Defender on the new computer and it's scanning as I
type
(but
I
still would like the old computer in a safe way as well).
Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it!
Cheers,
Ivan
:
Gotcha. I won't be able to respond further 'til after 9 or
so
tonight--I
need to read back over the thread and think further on this,
clearly!
If you haven't already posted the version of Windows and the
service
pack
level, please do that, if you have a chance.
--
Well ... Windows Installer is not on the list of programs
nor
can
it
be
found
under the "Add/Remove Windows components".
:
Can you try:
1) download fresh from:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=893803
(unless you are sure what you have available to do the
install
is
the
same
code posted there)
2) uninstall Windows Installer 3.1 via control panel, add
or
remove
programs, Windows Installer 3.1
3) Install from the code downloaded in step 1, or what you
already
have
available.
See whether that helps.
--
Picture this:
I never managed to upgrade MS AntiSpyware (and today also
failed
installing
Defender 2) because during installation there was the
request
for
Installer
3.1 but when I wanted to install Installer 3.1 from the
MS
website
it
refused
to install with the following error: KB893803v2
"Setup has detected that the service Pack version of this
system
is
newer
then the update you are applying. There is no need to
install
this
update"
???
Bill Sanderson MVP said:I'm totally mystified. Maybe a corrupted registry. All of that looks quite
normal excep the Service Pack 5 piece.
--
iefl said:Well, winver gives a familiar result:
Version 5.1 (build 2600.xpsp2.030422-1633 : Service Pack 5)
BTW, I have an English OS
cheers
Bill Sanderson MVP said:well--that puts you on sp2, so that's good. I don't know what is
happening
in your my Computer, properties, but maybe it is a character set or
language
difference of some sort??
A better guide is probably "winver" which should read:
Version 5.1 (Build 2600.xpsp.060210-156 : Service Pack 2)
--
at the command prompt it says XP [Version 5.1.2600]
I'll give the NVidia drivers another shot but I think I tried it and
that
didn't work.
Thanks again!
Ivan
:
Hmm - you seem to have something which is impossible! At a command
prompt,
when you type "ver" and hit enter, what comes back?
WHQL is Windows Hardware Quality Labs---so drivers that are certified
as
passing this certification for your OS shouldn't blue-screen as often
as
those which are not (!)
For example on this page:
http://www.nvidia.com/page/partner_certified_drivers.html
they are clear that 84.26 Quadro drivers are WHQL certified. There
are
likely to be newer, beta, or not yet certified drivers at any given
point
for a given product, if new drivers are still being produced for it.
--
About the SP: I'm typing what is printed black on grey in the
Control
Panel -
System window: Service Pack 5.
Final question: what do you mean by "WHQL'd"?
Cheers
Ivan
:
Well--I'm still slightly lost. SP2 is the newest available for
Windows
XP.
For Office, it depends on the Office version, and I'm not certain
of
the
answer, but for Windows--I doubt there will be an sp4 for XP, and
SP3
is
still a year away--2H 2007.
That's why I'm confused.
Get SP2 on the old one, sometime when you've nothing else to do.
If
that
box that has the bad power switch runs XP, set it up with an
autologon
via
tweakui, and use Remote Desktop to make use of it.
On Nvidia--no direct experience, but lots of reports read. If on
the
latest
and greatest, back off a version. Consider going with the newest
Microsoft
has WHQL'd rather than the bleeding edge ones direct from Nvidia.
--
Oops, forgot to check the "Notify me of replies" checkbox
There was never a Win 2000 on either machines. There were bought
from
Dell
in 2002 with XP Professional installed.
Bizarre thing was that I upgraded computer nr. 2 (the "new"
computer)
to
SP2, but I didn't do that immediately for computer 1 (the "old")
because
there was several "non-mainstream" software on it and I didn't
want
to
risk
problems. I did however have my automatic update switch on and
when
some
time later I finally decided to switch to SP2, I could no longer
perform
this
upgrade since. So it seems I got the "SP4" grade wihouth passing
the
SP2
stage.
It's a mess (and then I didn't even start on the problems with
the
NVidia
drivers - got a blue screen again today - on the "new" computer
with
reference to some NV4 driver or so).
Anyway, think the easiest thing to do is to forget about the old
computer's
hard-disk and just plug in one from another Dell that has other
problems
(bad
construction of the on/off button makes it sometimes impossible
to
power
up
again unless you perform a rain dance while at the same time
swing a
dead
chicken above your head and recite the Kabbala).
Thanks for all your efforts guys. Remind me to buy you a beer the
next
time
you're in Leuven (Belgium).
Cheers,
Ivan
:
Bill, Google XP Professional version 2002. I believe it is an
old
OEM
version designed to replace NT...
these
days
for cheap.
--
Regards, Dave
Bill Sanderson MVP wrote:
Hmm - some typos here.
Reading between the lines, this is what I think I am hearing:
You just did a move between Windows 2000 SP4 and Windows XP
SP2.
The "old" machine is Windows 2000 SP4, and the new one is
Windows
XP
SP2.
You are fine on the XP machine, but can't get the installer
into
place
on
the Windows 2000 machine, with the various errors posted?
Hi again,
I'm running XP Professional Version 2002 Service Pack 5 on a
Dell
Inspiron
5150
3GHz 512 Mb
BTW, the FAST option you recommended worked (apart from an
error
in
the
very
final stage). Thanks!
Installed Defender on the new computer and it's scanning as I
type
(but
I
still would like the old computer in a safe way as well).
Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it!
Cheers,
Ivan
:
Gotcha. I won't be able to respond further 'til after 9 or
so
tonight--I
need to read back over the thread and think further on this,
clearly!
If you haven't already posted the version of Windows and the
service
pack
level, please do that, if you have a chance.
--
Well ... Windows Installer is not on the list of programs
nor
can
it
be
found
under the "Add/Remove Windows components".
:
Can you try:
1) download fresh from:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=893803
(unless you are sure what you have available to do the
install
is
the
same
code posted there)
2) uninstall Windows Installer 3.1 via control panel, add
or
remove
programs, Windows Installer 3.1
3) Install from the code downloaded in step 1, or what you
already
have
available.
See whether that helps.
--
Picture this:
I never managed to upgrade MS AntiSpyware (and today also
failed
installing
Defender 2) because during installation there was the
request
for
Installer
3.1 but when I wanted to install Installer 3.1 from the