Touchscreen question on Dell E 153 PPf

[Todd]

Hi All,

I have a customer with a point of sale system using a
touchscreen "Dell E 153 PPf" monitor. Needless to say,
I have not been able to find any spec's on it.

Question: is the video driver just like any other
video driver or does the video driver handle the data
after the user jabs an icon on the screen? The cable is
VGA, so I do not see how it could provide feedback.

I am hoping someone tells me the data goes back to
the computer over a USB cable or some such.

Many thanks,
-T

 

[Paul]

Hi All,

I have a customer with a point of sale system using a
touchscreen "Dell E 153 PPf" monitor. Needless to say,
I have not been able to find any spec's on it.

Question: is the video driver just like any other
video driver or does the video driver handle the data
after the user jabs an icon on the screen? The cable is
VGA, so I do not see how it could provide feedback.

I am hoping someone tells me the data goes back to
the computer over a USB cable or some such.

Many thanks,
-T

Specs for Dell E153FPT 15 Inch Touch Screen Flat Panel Monitor

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...sku=320-4088&?~lt=popup&c=us&l=en&s=dfb&cs=28

Connectivity Technology

USB for touch sensor,
VGA for analog video

A "monitor driver" would be optional. Many manufacturers will claim
their monitor is Plug N' Play, via the DDC serial interface on the
VGA cable. But you can also get a color profile as part of a
driver package. For example, there is a 6KB ZIP file for my monitor,
which includes a color profile (so Photoshop is a bit more accurate
on-screen). That file will also insert a registry setting for
max resolution, which sometimes helps if the OS is unable to
figure it out. (For example, if my video card wouldn't drive the
monitor higher than 1024x768, when my monitor is 1280x1024, installing
the 6KB monitor driver package will load the registry entry that
says it is safe to drive at 1280x1024, the native resolution. The other
thing that file does, is give the monitor a name. Without the driver
installed, WinXP calls it a "generic monitor" or something similar.
If your monitor is otherwise working, you don't need to hunt down
that kind of driver.)

That is separate from a video card driver. The video card driver is
more concerned with programming the GPU and making it work.

The touch screen basically creates a stream of characters at
a relatively low transmission rate. That gives X-Y coordinates for
things touched on the screen. On older screens, that might even
be accomplished by a serial connection (RS232), but more modern products
will have a USB cable for it (inside the monitor, they might convert
RS232 to USB with a chip). The Touchscreen software will be
a separate install, from the "monitor driver" (if a monitor driver
is even available).

The Touchscreen software will come from an entirely different
company. Dell may have sold the monitor, but perhaps in this case,
the Touch panel overlay is by 3M.

Here is a manual for it. Enjoy.

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/E153FPTc/English/index.htm

Also, the OS must be suited to touch input. If the OS doesn't understand
touch as an input method, it's not going to know what to do with the
input.

The Touchware driver here, claims to be for Win2K and WinXP. It's a
small file, so I had a look. It almost looks like the contents of
four floppy diskettes. Don't know what you're supposed to do with that.
I sure hope it installs, without making floppies.

http://www.dell.com/support/drivers...Formats?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&DriverId=R89777

Paul

 

[Patok]

A "monitor driver" would be optional. Many manufacturers will claim
their monitor is Plug N' Play, via the DDC serial interface on the
VGA cable. But you can also get a color profile as part of a
driver package. For example, there is a 6KB ZIP file for my monitor,
which includes a color profile (so Photoshop is a bit more accurate
on-screen). That file will also insert a registry setting for
max resolution, which sometimes helps if the OS is unable to
figure it out. (For example, if my video card wouldn't drive the
monitor higher than 1024x768, when my monitor is 1280x1024, installing
the 6KB monitor driver package will load the registry entry that
says it is safe to drive at 1280x1024, the native resolution. The other
thing that file does, is give the monitor a name. Without the driver
installed, WinXP calls it a "generic monitor" or something similar.
If your monitor is otherwise working, you don't need to hunt down
that kind of driver.)

Lots of otherwise true and excellent stuff snipped. Just a minor
point: sometimes the video card driver does indeed influence the ability
to recognize and work with all monitor capabilities.
Two cases I remember:
- one of my old Dell laptops; the last official driver from Dell did
never say what make and model the LCD display was. It was only after I
downloaded a newer, tweaked, Nvidia driver from laptopvideo2go, that I
saw the make and model of the LCD panel.
- an old(ish) flat-screen Dell display on a friend's system - only when
we installed the latest driver for his video card, was it able to see
and use all the resolutions that the monitor reported (in particular the
1680X1050 one).
In both cases there was no need to install a monitor driver (although
it would have probably helped with the color profile).

 

[Todd]

Specs for Dell E153FPT 15 Inch Touch Screen Flat Panel Monitor

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...sku=320-4088&?~lt=popup&c=us&l=en&s=dfb&cs=28


Connectivity Technology

USB for touch sensor,
VGA for analog video

A "monitor driver" would be optional. Many manufacturers will claim
their monitor is Plug N' Play, via the DDC serial interface on the
VGA cable. But you can also get a color profile as part of a
driver package. For example, there is a 6KB ZIP file for my monitor,
which includes a color profile (so Photoshop is a bit more accurate
on-screen). That file will also insert a registry setting for
max resolution, which sometimes helps if the OS is unable to
figure it out. (For example, if my video card wouldn't drive the
monitor higher than 1024x768, when my monitor is 1280x1024, installing
the 6KB monitor driver package will load the registry entry that
says it is safe to drive at 1280x1024, the native resolution. The other
thing that file does, is give the monitor a name. Without the driver
installed, WinXP calls it a "generic monitor" or something similar.
If your monitor is otherwise working, you don't need to hunt down
that kind of driver.)

That is separate from a video card driver. The video card driver is
more concerned with programming the GPU and making it work.

The touch screen basically creates a stream of characters at
a relatively low transmission rate. That gives X-Y coordinates for
things touched on the screen. On older screens, that might even
be accomplished by a serial connection (RS232), but more modern products
will have a USB cable for it (inside the monitor, they might convert
RS232 to USB with a chip). The Touchscreen software will be
a separate install, from the "monitor driver" (if a monitor driver
is even available).

The Touchscreen software will come from an entirely different
company. Dell may have sold the monitor, but perhaps in this case,
the Touch panel overlay is by 3M.

Here is a manual for it. Enjoy.

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/E153FPTc/English/index.htm

Also, the OS must be suited to touch input. If the OS doesn't understand
touch as an input method, it's not going to know what to do with the
input.

The Touchware driver here, claims to be for Win2K and WinXP. It's a
small file, so I had a look. It almost looks like the contents of
four floppy diskettes. Don't know what you're supposed to do with that.
I sure hope it installs, without making floppies.

http://www.dell.com/support/drivers...Formats?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&DriverId=R89777


Paul

Hi Paul,

Extraordinary response. Thank you so much!

-T

 

[000-222-000]

Hi All,

I have a customer with a point of sale system using a
touchscreen "Dell E 153 PPf" monitor. Needless to say,
I have not been able to find any spec's on it.

There is no touchscreen "Dell E 153 PPf" monitor

you have a:::
E157FPT Touchscreen Flat Panel Display

Question: is the video driver just like any other
video driver or does the video driver handle the data
after the user jabs an icon on the screen? The cable is
VGA, so I do not see how it could provide feedback.

I am hoping someone tells me the data goes back to
the computer over a USB cable or some such.

use mouse port com2, com 3, or com 4,
and same use mouse ports com2, 3, or 4 or usb port,

If you look there have to be a COM or a USB port to plug-in the back.

For my is a old Touch screen and it have COM3 and VGA ports on it.
you can get the Touch Drivers for Dell E153FPT touch screen monitor at: ELO

Under Touch Drivers
< http://www.elotouch.com/Support/Downloads/default.asp >

 

[Todd]

There is no touchscreen "Dell E 153 PPf" monitor

you have a:::
E157FPT Touchscreen Flat Panel Display
<
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/e157fpt/en/ug_en/setup.htm#wp1012655

use mouse port com2, com 3, or com 4,
and same use mouse ports com2, 3, or 4 or usb port,

If you look there have to be a COM or a USB port to plug-in the back.
For my is a old Touch screen and it have COM3 and VGA ports on it.
you can get the Touch Drivers for Dell E153FPT touch screen monitor at: ELO
Under Touch Drivers
< http://www.elotouch.com/Support/Downloads/default.asp >

Thank you

 

[000-222-000]

Thank you

You are welcome

I have the ELO Touch Drivers for Windows 98,
For ELO remove them from there website one year ago,
So put ELO Touch Drivers away for 2000 and XP...
For Windows 2000 will be next to be put some time this year...