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Compu-Pikachu

I am becoming substantially displeased with the fact that still no further
responses have been transmitted regarding this:

My brother and I each possess a Windows XP Service Pack II computer, which
are networked, his being the server and providing a shared connection. Both
of us also have shared directories. Despite the network's considerable
benefits, primarily in entertainment, intermittently:

1. Both or one of either of the computers' shared directory Network Places
shortcuts cease to exist.

2. Both or one of the computers cease to register in the workgroup
computers lists of both or one of our computers.

3. Whenever I attempt to access files via Internet Explorer while using the
shared connection, the computer believes that no such connection is
currently active and, instead, attempts to connect to the Internet, which is
always futile, as the domicile only possesses one telephone line.

I am substantially displeased by this, especially considering my conjecture
that the service pack is defective. I have even heard negative comments on
it. Perhaps the claims of Microsoft's software flaws being considerably
more common compared to those of a majority of other major companies are
true after all.
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Compu-Pikachu said:
I am becoming substantially displeased with the fact that still no
further responses have been transmitted regarding this:

My brother and I each possess a Windows XP Service Pack II computer,
which are networked, his being the server and providing a shared
connection. Both of us also have shared directories. Despite the
network's considerable benefits, primarily in entertainment,
intermittently:
1. Both or one of either of the computers' shared directory Network
Places shortcuts cease to exist.

2. Both or one of the computers cease to register in the workgroup
computers lists of both or one of our computers.

3. Whenever I attempt to access files via Internet Explorer while
using the shared connection, the computer believes that no such
connection is currently active and, instead, attempts to connect to
the Internet, which is always futile, as the domicile only possesses
one telephone line.
I am substantially displeased by this, especially considering my
conjecture that the service pack is defective. I have even heard
negative comments on it. Perhaps the claims of Microsoft's software
flaws being considerably more common compared to those of a majority
of other major companies are true after all.

Your network is defective.
Either the NICs are cheap knockoffs of decent manufacturs or your router is
defective or you don't have the latest drivers for your NICs in Windows XP
or you have spyare/viruses or your cabling is in need of replacing.

Give us your configuration (hardware) fromm the PC to the router and down
the line to your other PC.
Give us your software configuration (what applications and protocol you have
installed and are using..)
Give us information on what YOU have done to resolve the issue.
Clean up both PCs and update with all security patches and hardware drivers.

I personally use IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible protocol for internal
transfers - so the pots for file and print sharing remain closed (I am
behind a NAT).
 
G

Guest

You said:
"I am becoming substantially displeased with the fact that
still no further responses have been transmitted regarding
this"

I say:
This is a free service. If you don't like the speed or
quality of the answers, go someplace else.
 
C

Compu-Pikachu

Shenan Stanley said:
Either the NICs are cheap knockoffs of decent manufacturs . . .

How can this be determined?
. . . or your router is defective

The only component connecting the computers is a Category V cable.
or you don't have the latest drivers for your NICs in Windows XP

Why would updated drivers be necessary? They functioned previously.
. . . or you have spyare/viruses . . .

I possess Spybot: Search & Destroy and scanned at least once within the
past week and many times prior to that.
or your cabling is in need of replacing.

How can that be determined?
Give us your software configuration (what applications and protocol you
have installed and are using..)

Are you merely referring to Internet programs?

The only protocol is the default.
Give us information on what YOU have done to resolve the issue.

I have been clueless.
Clean up both PCs and update with all security patches and hardware
drivers.

Automatic Windows updates are activated all of the time.
I personally use IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible protocol for internal
transfers - so the pots for file and print sharing remain closed (I am
behind a NAT).

I have only heard of the term "NAT" a few times.

Please be aware that my networking knowledge, including that of protocols,
is extremely limited.

In fact, all I had done to configure the network was merely connect the
cable and execute the Network Setup Wizard.
 
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Compu-Pikachu

You said:
"I am becoming substantially displeased with the fact that
still no further responses have been transmitted regarding
this"

I say:
This is a free service. If you don't like the speed or
quality of the answers, go someplace else.

It is simply that so many threads are initiated daily on here and that a
majority of them are answered within just hours. Something appeared amiss.
In addition, I am desperate to rectify the malfunctions.

Your message's final sentence appeared to imply anger and/or animosity
towards me. Is this correct? If so, please be aware that I am not your
adversary.
 
G

Guest

My response implied nothing, certainly not anger. But you
have to understand that you get what you pay for.
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Compu-Pikachu said:
How can this be determined?

You tell us the brand name of the nics or the chipset using something like
Device Manager or Belarc Advisor.
The only component connecting the computers is a Category V cable.
Crossover?


Why would updated drivers be necessary? They functioned previously.

You updated to SP2. MANY drivers have had updates to fix differences the
service pack caused. SP2 was notthing short of a complete makeover of
Windows XP, IMHO.
I possess Spybot: Search & Destroy and scanned at least once within
the past week and many times prior to that.

Spybot Search and Destroy, although great, is far from adequate. I
recommend 5 or more Antispyware applications at any given time:

First - make sure you have NOT installed "Rogue AntiSpyware". There are
people out there who created AntiSpyware products that actually install
spyware of their own! You need to avoid these:

Rogue/Suspect Anti-Spyware Products & Web Sites
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm

Also, you can always visit this site..
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
For more updated information.

Then, my suggestion again is that you at least install the first five of
these: (Install, Run, Update, Scan with..)

Lavasoft AdAware (Free and up)
http://www.lavasoft.de/support/download/
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdn )

Spybot Search and Destroy (Free!)
http://www.safer-networking.net/en/download/index.html
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/atdk )

Bazooka Adware and Spyware Scanner (Free!)
http://www.kephyr.com/spywarescanner/
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate3 )

SpywareBlaster (Free!)
http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate6 )

IE-SPYAD (Free!)
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/ehowes/www/resource.htm
(How-to: http://snipurl.com/ate7 )

CWShredder (Free!)
http://www.softbasket.com/download/s_8114.shtml

Hijack This! (Free)
http://mjc1.com/mirror/hjt/
( Tutorial: http://hjt.wizardsofwebsites.com/ )

ToolbarCop (Free!)
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/toolbarcop.htm

Browser Security Tests
http://www.jasons-toolbox.com/BrowserSecurity/

Popup Tester
http://www.popuptest.com/

The Cleaner (49.95 and up)
http://www.moosoft.com/
How can that be determined?

Replace it with a new cable.
Are you merely referring to Internet programs?

Mainly.. P2P anywhere?
The only protocol is the default.

So TCP/IP?
I have been clueless.

Okay - honesty.
Automatic Windows updates are activated all of the time.

That only gets critical Windows XP Patches. That does nothing for your
applications or drivers.
I have only heard of the term "NAT" a few times.

Network Address Translation. Google for it.
My recommendation is that you get a HUB in your situation, a switch would be
better and a router would be icing on the cake.
Please be aware that my networking knowledge, including that of
protocols, is extremely limited.

In fact, all I had done to configure the network was merely connect
the cable and execute the Network Setup Wizard.

Read up!
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/
 
C

Compu-Pikachu

Shenan said:
Compu-Pikachu wrote:
You tell us the brand name of the nics or the chipset using something
like Device Manager or Belarc Advisor.

That was conjectured.

I am familiar with the Device Manager and its operation.

The brand is VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter.
Crossover?

All not all such cables crossover ones? Is "Category V" synonymous with
"crossover"?
You updated to SP2. MANY drivers have had updates to fix differences
the service pack caused. SP2 was notthing short of a complete
makeover of Windows XP, IMHO.

Ah, it is to compensate for OTHER updates. Interesting.

No updates were available.
Spybot Search and Destroy, although great, is far from adequate. I
recommend 5 or more Antispyware applications at any given time:

That is excessive. I am even opposed to having more than one anti-virus
program simultaneously installed, let alone executing.

Nevertheless, considering my safety practices, the probability of any
spyware currently existing on my computer is approximately one percent.
First - make sure you have NOT installed "Rogue AntiSpyware". There
are people out there who created AntiSpyware products that actually
install spyware of their own!

I have never installed any others, except AdAware, when I tried that first
and discovered that the other was superior.

Nevertheless, I had happened to had become slightly familiar with false
anti-spyware programs.
Replace it with a new cable.

Only one was purchased. The currency expenditure for another is
unacceptable.
Mainly.. P2P anywhere?

I have only heard of that term a few times, whose acronymic representation I
am aware is "point-to-point." Are these merely file sharing programs? If
so, the answer is, "Negative."
So TCP/IP?

Affirmative. That inquiry was anticipated. Even experts do not necessarily
memorize.
Okay - honesty.

What other logical action would exist? Do neurotypicals usually find
admitting being clueless embarrassing?

I have Asperger's syndrome/high-functioning autism.
That only gets critical Windows XP Patches. That does nothing for
your applications or drivers.

Upon transmitting this message, that shall be accomplished.

The modem's speed is approximately fifty-six kilobits per second.
Network Address Translation.

I had heard of the acronymic representation at least once but forgot.
My recommendation is that you get a HUB in your situation, a switch
would be better and a router would be icing on the cake.

Why? The two computers are inside adjacent bedrooms. In fact, almost all
transfers are instantaneous.

Was that intended to express emotion? If so, which ones and why?
 
S

Shenan Stanley

Compu-Pikachu said:
That was conjectured.

I am familiar with the Device Manager and its operation.

The brand is VIA Rhine II Fast Ethernet Adapter.

Yes - quite a horrid little chipset in my experience. I replaced many of
them with Linksys 10Mbit and got better performance and reliability in the
past.

Matter of fact - read this and act appropriately:
There is a known issue with the via rhine - an incorrect link speed setting.
Go to local area connection properties -> configure -> Advanced ->
Connection Type -> change from Auto-Negotiation to 100Base Tx Full Duplex.
All not all such cables crossover ones? Is "Category V" synonymous
with "crossover"?

No.
Cat5: http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/C/Cat_5.html
Crossover: http://webopedia.internet.com/TERM/C/crossover_cable.html

Given for your two computers to be communicating without a hub, it is a
crossover cable, but not necessarily cat5/5e.
Ah, it is to compensate for OTHER updates. Interesting.

No updates were available.

It is not to compensate, but to take in the changes of the core system.
Much like going from Windows ME to XP.. Different drivers.
That is excessive. I am even opposed to having more than one
anti-virus program simultaneously installed, let alone executing.

Nevertheless, considering my safety practices, the probability of any
spyware currently existing on my computer is approximately one
percent.

Yeah - heard that before. heh
Did you know that Spybot effectiveness is less than 60% removal/location
ability (as are all other lone antispyware applications)?
I have never installed any others, except AdAware, when I tried that
first and discovered that the other was superior.

Nevertheless, I had happened to had become slightly familiar with
false anti-spyware programs.

I wish one was sufficient. If you insist on only one, I suggest the
Microsoft AntiSpyware (although you maybe should wait until it is out of the
Beta phase) - it is based off one of the best tested: Giant AntiSpyware.
Only one was purchased. The currency expenditure for another is
unacceptable.
Affirmative.


I have only heard of that term a few times, whose acronymic
representation I am aware is "point-to-point." Are these merely file
sharing programs? If so, the answer is, "Negative."

Generally so, yes. This is a good thing.
Affirmative. That inquiry was anticipated. Even experts do not
necessarily memorize.

I still suggest IPX/SPX/NetBIOS in such small networks.
(Part 7)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/814987
What other logical action would exist? Do neurotypicals usually find
admitting being clueless embarrassing?

Pretty much by definition..
For those less informed:
http://home.att.net/~ascaris1/neurotypicality.html
I have Asperger's syndrome/high-functioning autism.

Not much to do with the problem at hand, though, eh?
But for those interested and uninformed:
http://www.aspergerssyndrome.org/
Upon transmitting this message, that shall be accomplished.

The modem's speed is approximately fifty-six kilobits per second.

Yeah - dial up can be painful.
I had heard of the acronymic representation at least once but forgot.

Nothing special and since you use dial-up - not truly necessary.
Why? The two computers are inside adjacent bedrooms. In fact,
almost all transfers are instantaneous.

In your case, with dial-up, I reconsidered my recommendation. Hubs and
Switches would make life easier and setup cheaper and the addition of other
machines simple - however - you seem to have no need for such things.
Was that intended to express emotion? If so, which ones and why?

No emotion.. Enthusiastic suggestion, at most..

http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/
You snipped the given link to the instruction set.
There are several there you might want to check over... BUT I am fairly
certain your issue is the network card/chipset at this point.
I have nothing but problems with that particular chipset.
Go Intel if possible, 3COM next. I realize that may not monetarily be an
option - so try the suggestion earlier about the network settings. However,
you could look for a deal online through these sites:

For Pricing/Opinions/Reviews on various products:
- http://www.pricewatch.com/
- http://www.dealsites.net/
- http://www.techbargains.com/
- http://www.resellerratings.com/
- http://www.epinions.com/
 
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DJ Borell

message
All not all such cables crossover ones? Is "Category V" synonymous with
"crossover"?

In your original post, you stated your problem was occurring intermittently,
so this may not be your problem, but... Category 5 cabling is *not*
synonymous with "Crossover". Category 5 is a reference to the TIA/EIA
standard used when manufacturing the cable. However, it is a term commonly
used to refer to 100 Mb network cabling that is standard (also referred to
as "patch" or "straight through").

"Crossover" is a reference to the pin arrangement for the 4 wire pairs. In
a "standard" 100 Mb cable, each pin corresponds directly to the pin on the
opposite side of the cable. In a crossover cable, two of the pins are
switched (ergo the term "crossover"). This allows a computer to communicate
directly with another computer without the need of an additional Layer 2 or
3 device such as a hub, bridge, switch or router. The only difference
between a patch cable and a crossover cable are two pins, but that
difference is significant.

If you are going to network two PC's directly together, you *must* have a
crossover cable. If you purchase a crossover cable commercially, it will
almost invariably state, very obviously, that it is "Crossover" or "X-over".
Frequently, these cables are yellow in color (simply for easy
identification, not for any technical reason). Additionally, it will likely
cost significantly more (BTW - there is no good reason for this price
increase except supply and demand.) Any cable labeled simply as "Cat 5" or
"Network Cable" will likely not be a crossover cable and will *not* work for
this type of networking scenario.
 
K

Kerry Brown

Compu-Pikachu said:
I am becoming substantially displeased with the fact that still no further
responses have been transmitted regarding this:

My brother and I each possess a Windows XP Service Pack II computer, which
are networked, his being the server and providing a shared connection.
Both of us also have shared directories. Despite the network's
considerable benefits, primarily in entertainment, intermittently:

1. Both or one of either of the computers' shared directory Network
Places shortcuts cease to exist.

2. Both or one of the computers cease to register in the workgroup
computers lists of both or one of our computers.

3. Whenever I attempt to access files via Internet Explorer while using
the shared connection, the computer believes that no such connection is
currently active and, instead, attempts to connect to the Internet, which
is always futile, as the domicile only possesses one telephone line.

I am substantially displeased by this, especially considering my
conjecture that the service pack is defective. I have even heard negative
comments on it. Perhaps the claims of Microsoft's software flaws being
considerably more common compared to those of a majority of other major
companies are true after all.

Your easiest course of action would be to follow Shenan's advice and install
IPX/SPX on both computers. Go to the Network Connections folder. Right click
on Local Area Connection and pick Properties. Click Install then Protocol
then Add then NWLink IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol then OK.
You will probably have to restart your computer. Do this on both computers.
If this doesn't solve the problem let us know.

Kerry
 
R

Rodney

Compu-Pikachu said:
I was aware of that.

I'll comment here just to make sure you are aware that this newsgroup is
not "run" by Microsoft even though they "host" it. The group is also not
a part of MS support. The people who post here are not paid for doing
so, they volunteer to help if and when they know the answer (and if they
can figure out the problem from the original poster's description).
Sometimes it takes a bit (or a lot) of questions and answers and trying
things to get to the root of a problem and find a solution. I realize
that someone with your syndrome might take things more literally than
most of the posters expect. Often, even the experts here take offence
when someone appears to have an "attitude" and seems to demand help. I
do not think that is what you are meaning to do. Have patience and work
through the steps that poster S. Stanley is suggesting, it may take some
time as no one has a system setup just exactly like yours and cannot see
what you are seeing on your screen so they have to ask what may seem
like boring questions on the path to solution. In troubleshooting it is
necessary to try one thing at a time to isolate the component (hardware
or software) that has caused the failure. If it worked previously, then
I believe it is reasonable to assume that it can work again, although a
software driver or a failed piece of hardware may have to be replaced.

By the way, those links given for networking have a lot of information
if you want to become more proficient and could give you something to
read while people here are helping you sort out the current problem.

HTH, Rodney
 
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Compu-Pikachu

Shenan Stanley said:
Yes - quite a horrid little chipset in my experience. I replaced many of
them with Linksys 10Mbit and got better performance and reliability in the
past.

Our computers were just purchased approximately nine months ago. The
malfunctions commenced transpiring about only two ago. Please explain that.
Matter of fact - read this and act appropriately:
There is a known issue with the via rhine - an incorrect link speed
setting. Go to local area connection properties -> configure ->
Advanced -> Connection Type -> change from Auto-Negotiation to 100Base Tx
Full Duplex.

It has been accomplished.

The cable's packaging did read "crossover," and according to the latter
term's definition, it would be of that variety.

Well, Windows Update should have warned me of that.
It is not to compensate, but to take in the changes of the core system.

Ah, of course, it would be considered adaptation.
Yeah - heard that before. heh
Did you know that Spybot effectiveness is less than 60% removal/location
ability (as are all other lone antispyware applications)?

Are you referring to SpyBot: Search & Destroy or spyware? In either case,
the answer is, "Negative."
I wish one was sufficient. If you insist on only one, I suggest the
Microsoft AntiSpyware (although you maybe should wait until it is out of
the Beta phase) - it is based off one of the best tested: Giant
AntiSpyware.

Microsoft is developing such a program? They must particularly be catching
on to things. It took them eons to implement a pop-up advertisement
blocker.
Generally so, yes. This is a good thing.
Why?

I still suggest IPX/SPX/NetBIOS in such small networks.
(Part 7)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/814987

That has been accomplished.

What are the advantages and, if any, disadvantages, and what characterizes
IPX/SPX/NetBIOS?

That was interesting reading that provided me with a deeper insight into how
pathetic neurotypicals are.

Yeah - dial up can be painful.

Fortunately, I am not impatient.
In your case, with dial-up, I reconsidered my recommendation. Hubs and
Switches would make life easier and setup cheaper and the addition of
other machines simple - however - you seem to have no need for such
things.

Why did the realization that dial-up connections were being used cause the
reconsideration?
http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/
You snipped the given link to the instruction set.

Please elucidate "instruction set."

The hyperlink was excluded, as it had no pertinence to my response.
 
C

Compu-Pikachu

DJ Borell said:
. . . Category 5 cabling is *not* synonymous with "Crossover".

Stanley's most recent message evidenced that.
Category 5 is a reference to the TIA/EIA standard used when manufacturing
the cable.

As the first hyperlinked "Webopedia" document indicated.
However, it is a term commonly used to refer to 100 Mb network cabling
that is standard (also referred to as "patch" or "straight through").

Those terms are familiar.

Believe it or not, approximately four years ago, while I was still a senior
high school student, I had attended a semester of Cisco Networking, but I
had forgotten over time, especially since this two-computer network is the
only one that I have configured, possessed, or prepared.
"Crossover" is a reference to the pin arrangement for the 4 wire pairs.
In a "standard" 100 Mb cable, each pin corresponds directly to the pin on
the opposite side of the cable. In a crossover cable, two of the pins are
switched (ergo the term "crossover"). This allows a computer to
communicate directly with another computer without the need of an
additional Layer 2 or 3 device such as a hub, bridge, switch or router.
The only difference between a patch cable and a crossover cable are two
pins, but that difference is significant.

Ah, the Open System Interconnection model. Layers two and three refer to
the data link and network layers, respectively. Does my network use those?
If you are going to network two PC's directly together, you *must* have a
crossover cable. If you purchase a crossover cable commercially, it will
almost invariably state, very obviously, that it is "Crossover" or
"X-over".

That is an interesting coincidence, since, as just indicated earlier, the
cable's package read "crossover."
Frequently, these cables are yellow in color (simply for easy
identification, not for any technical reason).

I had wondered why ours was yellow.

It is interesting how Stanley beat you to some explanations, especially
since it was just by approximately seven minutes.
 
D

DJ Borell

Believe it or not, approximately four years ago, while I was still a
senior high school student, I had attended a semester of Cisco Networking,
but I had forgotten over time, especially since this two-computer network
is the only one that I have configured, possessed, or prepared.

You lose what you don't use, particularly with this stuff. I'd forget what
the OSI model is in two seconds if I didn't need to know it.
Ah, the Open System Interconnection model. Layers two and three refer to
the data link and network layers, respectively. Does my network use
those?

Your network is using only Layer 1 (Physical) devices -- the network cards.
That is an interesting coincidence, since, as just indicated earlier, the
cable's package read "crossover."

If the package said "Crossover", then they are. As I said, this may not
have been your issue, my intent was only to clear up the "Cat 5 synonymous
with Crossover" misconception.
 
C

Compu-Pikachu

Rodney said:
I'll comment here just to make sure you are aware that this newsgroup is
not "run" by Microsoft even though they "host" it.

I was uncertain.
The group is also not a part of MS support.

That was conjectured.
The people who post here are not paid for doing so, they volunteer to help
if and when they know the answer (and if they can figure out the problem
from the original poster's description).

I was aware of that.
Sometimes it takes a bit (or a lot) of questions and answers and trying
things to get to the root of a problem and find a solution.

Well, then a response should have been transmitted indicating that, rather
than leaving me in the dark.
I realize that someone with your syndrome might take things more literally
than most of the posters expect.

I am not any exception.
Often, even the experts here take offence when someone appears to have an
"attitude" and seems to demand help.

It was anticipated that either of the retransmissions could have induced
such a reaction, and although experts were not considered in this, it would
have been conjectured that they would have been marginally less likely to do
so.
I do not think that is what you are meaning to do. Have patience and work
through the steps that poster S. Stanley is suggesting, it may take some
time as no one has a system setup just exactly like yours and cannot see
what you are seeing on your screen so they have to ask what may seem like
boring questions on the path to solution.

As indicated just earlier, I am not impatient.

Nevertheless, I am aware of such situations. The problem was that no
responses had been transmitted. At least, now, something is being
accomplished.
In troubleshooting it is necessary to try one thing at a time to isolate
the component (hardware or software) that has caused the failure.

Do I appear to be an individual who would have failed to realize something
that common sense and rudimentary logic would have dictated? Do my
Asperger's syndrome/high-functioning autism and vocabulary fail to evidence
my high intelligence to you?

In fact, I possess a Borg/computer/Vulcan-like mentality.

Please exercise caution to avoid patronizing me, if necessary, using phrases
such as "in case you are unaware."
If it worked previously, then I believe it is reasonable to assume that it
can work again, although a software driver or a failed piece of hardware
may have to be replaced.

That was also almost evident.
HTH, Rodney

What is "HTH"'s acronymic representation: "Horatio T. Hornblower"?
 
C

Compu-Pikachu

Your easiest course of action would be to follow Shenan's advice and
install IPX/SPX on both computers.

That was already accomplished.
Go to the Network Connections folder. Right click on Local Area Connection
and pick Properties. Click Install then Protocol then Add then NWLink
IPX/SPX/NetBIOS Compatible Transport Protocol then OK. You will probably
have to restart your computer. Do this on both computers.

Stanley provided a hyperlink to similar instructions, making the above
redundant. Is this a habit?
If this doesn't solve the problem let us know.

My just earlier comment pertaining to common sense and rudimentary logic
also applies here.
 
C

Compu-Pikachu

You lose what you don't use, particularly with this stuff. I'd forget
what the OSI model is in two seconds if I didn't need to know it.

I was aware of that being the case with some knowledge.
Your network is using only Layer 1 (Physical) devices -- the network
cards.

That was conjectured, but what about the software?
As I said, this may not have been your issue, my intent was only to clear
up the "Cat 5 synonymous with Crossover" misconception.

My response merely pertained to the misconception.
 
K

Kerry Brown

Stanley provided a hyperlink to similar instructions, making the above
redundant. Is this a habit?
My just earlier comment pertaining to common sense and rudimentary logic
also applies here.

At first I thought you had a problem using English as a second language. Now
you are just being rude. People are trying to help you.

Troll? My compliments if so, well done.

Kerry
 

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