Source of data for slipstream

[Big Al]

All this conversation about slipstream brings up a question.
I've seen lots of programs like Nlite to make the CD, and I've done it
the command line way. Okay, SP2 is there!. It works.! great!.\

But Nlite allows for all the 100+ fixes post SP2. But where do you get
all the fixes to slipstream in to upgrade SP2?
I've been on MS and I can see the KB######$ folders in my windows
folder, so okay, this is a good place to start, but I don't want to
download 100+ updates. I see nlite.com has a download but its not
individual updates and there are more in there than I have. A lot more.
I can see the .cat files in the nlite download to see what they
include. As a matter of fact, some hot fixes I might not want.

I've downloaded about 10 from MS, and nlite is a cute program. And
some others have been mentioned in the past weeks here too.

Still, its back to the question, where do I easily get the individual
updates easier than MS?

 

[PD43]

But Nlite allows for all the 100+ fixes post SP2. But where do you get
all the fixes to slipstream in to upgrade SP2?

You planning on installing SP3?

If so, why don't you just wait?

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

SP3 is close enough to release that I am just waiting. No need to go
through what you are contemplating when MS is just about to do it for you.

 

[PD43]

SP3 is close enough to release that I am just waiting. No need to go
through what you are contemplating when MS is just about to do it for you.

I slipstreamed my XP CD quite some time ago... problem is, I don't
trust it. I tried to run a repair install to test it and after
bypassing several messages telling me that it couldn't find a
particular Acronis .dll file, I shut it down and restored from the
image I'd made previous to the test.

I think that depending on good backup images makes more sense.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Unless you are just using the system file checker or doing a repair
installation. Otherwise, I agree. The ideal way to reinstall Windows (and
your favorite software) is with a pristine image of things just as you like
them.

 

[Big Al]

I slipstreamed my XP CD quite some time ago... problem is, I don't
trust it. I tried to run a repair install to test it and after
bypassing several messages telling me that it couldn't find a
particular Acronis .dll file, I shut it down and restored from the
image I'd made previous to the test.

I think that depending on good backup images makes more sense.

I agree with backups. I've reloaded my pc's about 6 times in a few
years. I miss nothing now. I got it down pat.
And yes, I want SP3 when its been tested by others. But some day, it
will be back to not needing all the updates again to SP3.

Just Curious. That's all. Thanks.

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

You can keep up with the updates after SP3 by downloading them from Windows
Downloads as they come out and periodically slipstreaming them into a new cd
with nLite.

http://www.nliteos.com/guide/

 

[PD43]

Unless you are just using the system file checker or doing a repair
installation. Otherwise, I agree. The ideal way to reinstall Windows (and
your favorite software) is with a pristine image of things just as you like
them.

My "test" repair was because I had an annoying problem that I was
unable to fix. The repair MIGHT have fixed it, but I impatiently
ended the repair and reinstalled from my image I made prior to the
"test". Obviously the problem was still there.

The problem: when I chose "send to" from a right-click menu, the
system stopped with a memory error and something else. That problem
occurred even if I only browsed the menu over the selection.

My "fix": I removed the option from the right-click menu.

Out of sight, out of mind.

 

[Big Al]

You can keep up with the updates after SP3 by downloading them from
Windows Downloads as they come out and periodically slipstreaming them
into a new cd with nLite.

http://www.nliteos.com/guide/

Thanks. This answered the basic questions.
It was more of a test and I guess just downloading the updates from MS
proved the real big question, that there are some kb###### updates I
can't find on MS anymore. Out of date or otherwise, and this makes it
even more evident that I should build and click "update" on the menu.
I've consumed hours doing this and I'm still out of date as I don't have
all the fixes and goodness knows if nlite will put them all into windows
right.

I just say this if anyone is reading this thread on the sly.
Again, thanks for your thoughts. I'll stay with ole faithful.

 

[Big Al]

My "test" repair was because I had an annoying problem that I was
unable to fix. The repair MIGHT have fixed it, but I impatiently
ended the repair and reinstalled from my image I made prior to the
"test". Obviously the problem was still there.

The problem: when I chose "send to" from a right-click menu, the
system stopped with a memory error and something else. That problem
occurred even if I only browsed the menu over the selection.

My "fix": I removed the option from the right-click menu.

Out of sight, out of mind.

Hey, it works!

 

[PD43]

Hey, it works!

Yeah... it does/did.

I'm just wondering what ELSE is f***ed up!

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

The "missing" KBs were superceded by later updates. You don't want them.
You really don't.

 

[Big Al]

The "missing" KBs were superceded by later updates. You don't want
them. You really don't.

Kool! I've got a spare drive, i'm going to test this. You learn by
trial and error.

 

[Big Al]

Yeah... it does/did.

I'm just wondering what ELSE is f***ed up!

you can see the handwriting on the wall huh. backup, backup, backup.....

 

[PD43]

you can see the handwriting on the wall huh. backup, backup, backup.....

I have multiple backups to both internal and external drives - PLUS a
clone of my system drive that is updated daily: I clone my main drive
weekly and use another program to keep it updated with my data file.

Still, I had no backups pre-dating the problem.

 

[Bill in Co.]

Or even SP3, for that matter.

Kool! I've got a spare drive, i'm going to test this. You learn by
trial and error.

 

[Lil' Dave]

If you, for instance, updated to IE7 or net framework; they are not listed
under a KB article number subfolder of the windows folder.

--
Dave

How about a tax to support any military conflict/police action over 3 months
old?

An actual war, we can do what's been done in the past.

 

[Big Al]

If you, for instance, updated to IE7 or net framework; they are not listed
under a KB article number subfolder of the windows folder.

Yes I found that. The $Uninstall$KB######.... folders in windows show
the major upgrades and then there a few odd ball labeled folders. I
browsed the folders and found info on what they were but could not find
a lot of help searching microsoft.

This all makes me support the idea of just a fresh load of SP2 or SP3
when it comes, then let the windows update do its job. Nlite suggests
sorting the list by build date, but that scares me since the KB#'s are
not in order then. I fear nlite updates KB80000 then KB70000 and is
this right? Its such a gamble, and I know windows update works, so
the testing was fun, worth the effort, and valuable for nothing more
than telling me there still isn't much better, stick with what works!

 

[Ken]

Big Al said the following on 3/30/2008 4:31 AM:

Yes I found that. The $Uninstall$KB######.... folders in windows show
the major upgrades and then there a few odd ball labeled folders. I
browsed the folders and found info on what they were but could not find
a lot of help searching microsoft.

This all makes me support the idea of just a fresh load of SP2 or SP3
when it comes, then let the windows update do its job. Nlite suggests
sorting the list by build date, but that scares me since the KB#'s are
not in order then. I fear nlite updates KB80000 then KB70000 and is
this right? Its such a gamble, and I know windows update works, so
the testing was fun, worth the effort, and valuable for nothing more
than telling me there still isn't much better, stick with what works!

Hi. I have been lurking because I need to slipstream some RAID drivers
into a new install of XP onto a mb that does not support a floppy (Intel
DP35DP). I have two choices, as I see it: purchase a USB flopppy (XP
supports Mitsumi and IBM/TEAC (KB916196) or slipstream the drivers onto
an install disk image. (The third choice, I guess, is to do an install
without the floppy, then add the drivers, then clone the disk with
Acronis TrueImage or similar program...)

So if I decide to try my hand with nLite for slipstreaming, am I correct
that the gist of this thread is to not try to slipstream the updates
between XP2 and the present onto the CD, but, rather, allow Windows
Update do the job? (BTW, when is SP3 due out and what are the early
reviews of it? Should one wait for a number of months after it comes out
to wait for bugs, or does it seem to be OK from the gate for a new
install? I am going to build my computer next week and could wait if
the SP3 is about to be released...

Thanks in advance,
Ken K
Ken K