Replacing XP with Win 98-- will this work?

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Sport

Hi,
I have a computer with XP installed-- but I need to use Win98 too (a major
app I use doesn't work properly in XP).
Will the following work?

1. I place the XP drive in a removable rack/tray system.

2. I install a second hard drive and partition it. Install Win 98 on one of
the partitions

3. When the XP tray is in place, the computer thinks it's an XP system, but,
when I pull the XP tray out, the computer will boot to Win98 instead?

So, will this work?

Thanks!
 
You will have problems!! XP will control the Master Boot Record (MBR) and
add the Windows 98 as an additional Operating system

Also, the secondary hard drive (slave) can not be made bootable. If the
jumper setting is set so that the drive is "Slave" or on "Cable Select" then
the first drive must be installed in order for the drive to work.

If you need to have both hard drives install at the same time, look at
System Commander by Vcom. It allows more Operating Systems to be installed
and allow us to "hide" Windows 98 from Windows XP.

If the two operating systems do not need to have both disks installed at the
same time, then get a second tray and place the Windows 98 disk in that one.
Then, depending on which tray you insert into to rack, you have Windows 98
or XP booting.

Y.
 
Sport said:
Hi,
I have a computer with XP installed-- but I need to use Win98 too (a major
app I use doesn't work properly in XP).
Will the following work?

1. I place the XP drive in a removable rack/tray system.

2. I install a second hard drive and partition it. Install Win 98 on one of
the partitions

3. When the XP tray is in place, the computer thinks it's an XP system, but,
when I pull the XP tray out, the computer will boot to Win98 instead?

So, will this work?

Thanks!

The original plan will not work. See Leclerc's explanation.

Two other ways of doing it. First is to dual-boot between Windows 98 and
Windows 98. Create at least 2 FAT32 partitions and install Windows 98
first on to Drive C. Next, install Windows XP on to Drive D. Bypassing
the details, the computer will boot using XP's boot manager into either
Windows 98 or Windows XP. Of course, the applications will have to be
installed independently into each of the OS's.

An alternate option is to use similar removable HD's. Set one up for
Windows 98 and the other for Windows XP. Interchange them as one
would like. If allowable, install a "permanent" HD as secondary on the
primary IDE connector. This HD can be used as a file storage by both
Windows 98 and XP, if set up for FAT32. In doing this, one has to be
very careful, however, not to corrupt the bios tables or it is finis for both
removable HD's.
 
You can use something like this:

http://www.tigredirect.com part # R75-2004

II use a $2.00 switch to do the same thing. Both drives
are set as masters, you just don't power up the one you're
not using, it satys on the IDE cable and won't be seen.
I have 98 on one drive and Xp on the other.
 
Hi, Sport.

Are you SURE your app won't work with WinXP? Not even in Compatibility
Mode? If you mention the name of the app, unless it is a custom program
someone here might recognize it and know what it takes to make it work in
WinXP.

RC
 
Are you SURE your app won't work with WinXP? Not even in Compatibility
Mode? If you mention the name of the app, unless it is a custom program
someone here might recognize it and know what it takes to make it work in
WinXP.

Well, it's not just a single app...I'm using audio recording software and my
brand new hotshot 8in/8out sound card....which work fine together in my old
PII 266 Win98 machine, but completely go to pieces in my P4 2 ghz XP dog...I
don't mind XP so much while I'm working, but for making music it's just too
damn top heavy...and it can't keep time either...and it keeps getting slower
and slower...

Thanks for the tips from everyone...I think the safest bet will be to place
Win98 on a separate tray...I've looked into Boot Commander and Partition
Magic, but it's all too complicated for me right now...
 
I'm not sure why most of the respondents to your message think this won't
work, because it should work just fine. If the C: drive is the removable
drive (and I'm assuming this is what you mean) then there should be no
problem with putting Windows XP into a removable drive tray and using a
second drive tray for Windows 98.
 
Sport said:
Hi,
I have a computer with XP installed-- but I need to use Win98 too (a major
app I use doesn't work properly in XP).
Will the following work?

1. I place the XP drive in a removable rack/tray system.

2. I install a second hard drive and partition it. Install Win 98 on one of
the partitions

3. When the XP tray is in place, the computer thinks it's an XP system, but,
when I pull the XP tray out, the computer will boot to Win98 instead?

So, will this work?

Thanks!

what i do is just have *no* harddrive in the computer at all
then i have a bunch of removable trays
and just plug in whicher OS i want...
i think i've got 14 or more now!
 
Yes, it will work. And as someone else wrote, its best to have each OS on
its own removable HD tray.

Some recent version boot managers will work as well without the need for a
tray. Most are not that complicated to install or use.

XP can act as boot manager, but see how to do this first at the XP
newsgroup.
Dave
 
Been there...done that.. as others have said,it does work.
Now if C tray is setup as primary master, and D tray as secondary master it
makes it possible to have real FULL ,cheap backup,as a 2nd drive( D) can
be a clone of the first(c).
If C fail,pullout and replace with drive from D.You're 'up and running' in
about 5 minutes,with very little loss of data/programs depending on how
often you backup.
hth
jay
 
Are you SURE your app won't work with WinXP? Not even in Compatibility
Mode? If you mention the name of the app, unless it is a custom program
someone here might recognize it and know what it takes to make it work in
WinXP.

Hey R.C., your reply is the first sensible reply to the original inquiry.

It would certainly be a lot easier to make the program work with XP than try
all the other weirdo suggestions!
 
j.b. miller said:
Been there...done that.. as others have said,it does work.
Now if C tray is setup as primary master, and D tray as secondary master it
makes it possible to have real FULL ,cheap backup,as a 2nd drive( D) can
be a clone of the first(c).
If C fail,pullout and replace with drive from D.You're 'up and running' in
about 5 minutes,with very little loss of data/programs depending on how
often you backup.

I haven't read the earlier posts in this thread, but for this to
work satisfactorily, both physical drives must be set up as single primary
partitions. If the second drive is is an extended partition, it will not
be bootable. If there is a pre-existing extended partition on the first
drive, adding a primary partition on the second drive will change the
existing drive letter order.
 
Sport said:
I have a computer with XP installed-- but I need to use Win98 too (a major
app I use doesn't work properly in XP).
Will the following work?

1. I place the XP drive in a removable rack/tray system.

2. I install a second hard drive and partition it. Install Win 98 on one of
the partitions

3. When the XP tray is in place, the computer thinks it's an XP system, but,
when I pull the XP tray out, the computer will boot to Win98 instead?

While it will work. it is needlessly complicated, unless you happen to
have that hardware around anyway. It is perfectly possible to set up a
dual boot of XP and Win98 - all that is needed is that they be on
separate partitions - , using either XP's native dual boot (in which you
initiate its installation from an existing Win98), or using a third
party external boot manager, which need cost no more than $35
 
all the other weirdo suggestions!


So if you can't understand the techniques they are weirdo suggestions?
Ever tried to make an older version of a proggy work on XP?

(some things never change!)
 
Sport said:
Hi,
I have a computer with XP installed-- but I need to use Win98 too (a major
app I use doesn't work properly in XP).
Will the following work?

1. I place the XP drive in a removable rack/tray system.

2. I install a second hard drive and partition it. Install Win 98 on one of
the partitions

3. When the XP tray is in place, the computer thinks it's an XP system, but,
when I pull the XP tray out, the computer will boot to Win98 instead?

So, will this work?

Thanks!
If a separate tray and drive is used for each and only one drive is in
the computer at a time it should work. But its just as easy to install
W98 on C: first and then install XP on D: (two partitions on one drive)
and XP will automatically setup a dual boot menu. Just select which OS
you want to use at boot time with the up/down cursor keys. It doesn't
get any easier than that.

John
 
I have a computer with XP installed-- but I need to use Win98 too (a major
app I use doesn't work properly in XP).

Let me guess. The "major app" you are referring to is called MS
Windows XP <lol>.
 

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