Wrong HD?

[W. eWatson]

I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For years,
I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a bigger in the
tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the
WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My mother board is a
P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB
drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

 

[Bob F]

I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For
years, I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a
bigger in the tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB.
When I put the WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My
mother board is a P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I
can't get the WD250 GB drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

Did you partition and format it?

 

[Paul in Houston TX]

I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For years,
I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a bigger in the
tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the
WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My mother board is a
P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB
drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

P5LSI not found in a google search.
Does that MB support 250g drives?
Does the MB need large disk support software?
Are there jumper settings?
Etc.

 

[philo]

I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For years,
I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a bigger in the
tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the
WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My mother board is a
P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB
drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

Drives usually come not partitioned.

Use disk management to partition and format the drive

 

[Paul]

I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For years,
I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a bigger in the
tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the
WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My mother board is a
P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB
drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

I would be checking those hard drive jumpers.

And, if there is only a single hard drive on the
IDE cable, make sure the drive is connected to the
end connector. Not the middle one.

Paul

 

[W. eWatson]

Did you partition and format it?

There is no way to do that. My Computer does not show the drive.

With the small 8.4GB drive, it comes up on the E: drive. Using the 250GB
drive is not seen anywhere.

 

[W. eWatson]

P5LSI not found in a google search.
Does that MB support 250g drives?
Does the MB need large disk support software?
Are there jumper settings?
Etc.

Faulty memory. Use P5NSLI. Don't know if the MB supports large drives,
but the SATA HD is 300GB. Don't know about software for big drives.

I tried with the jumper in positions 4 and 5. 5 is right most.

 

[W. eWatson]

Drives usually come not partitioned.

Use disk management to partition and format the drive

Not possible if the drive cannot be seen.

 

[W. eWatson]

I would be checking those hard drive jumpers.

And, if there is only a single hard drive on the
IDE cable, make sure the drive is connected to the
end connector. Not the middle one.

Paul

Tried both # 4 and # 5. Nothing.

 

[Bob F]

There is no way to do that. My Computer does not show the drive.

With the small 8.4GB drive, it comes up on the E: drive. Using the
250GB drive is not seen anywhere.

Start, Right click My computer, Disk Managment.

 

[Paul in Houston TX]

Faulty memory. Use P5NSLI. Don't know if the MB supports large drives,
but the SATA HD is 300GB. Don't know about software for big drives.

I tried with the jumper in positions 4 and 5. 5 is right most.

Not sure what you mean by jumper in 4 and 5.
If it's a single drive, there should be no jumper.
www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/other/2579-001037.pdf
Is there another drive on the cable?
Perhaps a pata CD drive?
(Nice MB, btw.)

 

[Paul]

Tried both # 4 and # 5. Nothing.

I can see several different model numbers that start
with WD2500 here.

http://support.wdc.com/product/install.asp?groupid=502&lang=en

We'll pretend it's a WD2500LB.

http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/search/1/a_id/932#jumper

With a single drive on the cable and no drive in the middle
cable position, the "no jumper" setting looks appropriate.
Try to use an 80 wire 40 pin connector cable if you can,
for best performance. The 40 wire 40 pin connector cable
limits the speed to something like 33MB/sec. Software can
sense whether an 80 wire or 40 wire cable is connected.
The 80 wire connector is also typically compatible with
"Cable Select" should you choose to use it later on.

The 80 wire cable, uses 40 wires for signal grounds,
and has better impedance control as a result. The
software senses that, and enables the faster cable
operating rates.

But for the moment, with the single drive, you can try
the "no jumper" option.

*******

This is a generic jumper document. This document
has value, for the information on page 3, which allows
drive geometry changes by adding a second jumper
for the "clip" function. That is used on old systems,
when the BIOS cannot handle a large drive. This does not
apply to your P5NSLI motherboard, which is quite modern.
Any system after mid-2003, is pretty well assured to be
large drive compatible, and not have a problem with 250GB
drives on either IDE or SATA port.

http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/other/2579-001037.pdf

*******

Maybe it isn't a jumper or cabling issue, and all
of that is fine.

Perhaps you entered the BIOS setup, went to the
IDE section, and made modifications to the
"Auto" setting that Asus uses by default.
Look in there, you'll see it's been taken
off Auto and set to something else. After all,
with the 8.4GB previous drive, you may have been
tempted to use customs settings with it. I stopped
doing that, after "shooting myself in the foot"
with that stuff

Ok, now to check if I have the manual in my collection.

e2234_p5nsli.pdf page 2-17 (PDF page 67)

Access Mode [ CHS, LBA, Large, Auto ]

And [Auto] is the default, and also a good choice.

*******

http://www.dewassoc.com/kbase/hard_drives/lba.htm

"Comparison of Translation Modes"

http://pcguide.com/ref/hdd/bios/modesComparison-c.html

Paul

 

[Paul]

P.S. Be careful of this link. It pops up
some crap browser windows, to make a few
bucks on advertising. To free my Firefox,
I had to go to Task Manager (control-alt-delete)
and kill Firefox there. Then start Firefox again,
select "start new session", and start browsing
afresh.

 

[Tim Slattery]

Not possible if the drive cannot be seen.

If there is no partition on the drive it won't be visible in Windows
Explorer or any open or save boxes. You'll have to use Disk Management
to create a partition and format that partition. Then it will appear
in Explorer and you'll be able to use it.

 

[Ben Myers]

I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For years,
I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a bigger in the
tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the
WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My mother board is a
P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB
drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

Click "Start", "Run", type "diskmgmt.msc" into the "Open" box, click "OK" and look
for the drive in the top window. If it isn't there, find it in the bottom window, right-click,
select "New Partition" and partition the drive. After the drive is partitioned, right-click it
and select "Format".

Ben

 

[Ken Blake, MVP]

There is no way to do that. My Computer does not show the drive.

Did you look for it in Disk Management?

 

[W. eWatson]

I have a tray on my XP to turn bare bones HDs into an internal drive.
It's loaded by pulling open the tray and inserting the drive. For years,
I kept a WD Caviar 28400, 8.4GB, in it. I decided to use a bigger in the
tray. I bought a WD Caviar Enhanced IDE WD2500, 250 GB. When I put the
WD250 GB drive in the tray my PC does not see it. My mother board is a
P5LSI. My main drive is a SATA. Any idea why I can't get the WD250 GB
drive to work? Mixing an IDE with an EIDE??

I think it's safe to say that when one cannot see a HD under My
Computers, the HD is dead. I confirmed that by taking the drive to a
local computer store, and it took about five minutes to prove it.

The drive is under warranty, and I should get a replacement by the end
of the week.

 

[Paul]

I think it's safe to say that when one cannot see a HD under My
Computers, the HD is dead. I confirmed that by taking the drive to a
local computer store, and it took about five minutes to prove it.

The drive is under warranty, and I should get a replacement by the end
of the week.

Considering the history of the drive, do you think
it was insertion in the tray that killed it. Like
"hot insertion" ?

Was the drive working immediately before ?

I'd probably put the next one in the tray with
the power off. Then power up and test the replacement.

Paul

 

[philo]

Not possible if the drive cannot be seen.

An unpartitioned drive will NOT be seen in Windows Explorer, you need
to use disk management.


If disk management does not see it then you may have it jumpered wrong...
does it show up OK in the bios?