reinstalling home or installing pro

J

Julia Sheppard

Hello, I want to install XP Pro on a computer that currently has Home
installed. whe i try and install it a message appears sayin the version
currently on is newer and it won't let me continue. Even when i try and
reinstall Home the same message applies. I've looked in 'add & remove
programmes' but xp doesn't appear there. Has anyone any suggestions. I can't
even repair 'Home' with the original disc that it was installed with.
 
J

Jerry

The 'original' disc is an older version, for example it is an original XP
Home CD and since then you have upgraded to SP1 or SP2 or SP3 and,
therefore, you cannot upgrade/repair a 'newer' version with an 'older
version' CD.

What you do is to slipstream the appropriate SP version you downloaded with
the origianl CD, make an .ISO image, and burn a new CD.

Slipstreamer/slipstreaming has many postings - use Google.

AutoStreamer is a program that will help in the process - again Google.

And if you would like to enhance you abilities in the area of slipsteeaming
I would offer the following:

WindowsXP (Home or Pro) went from the original release XP(0) to WindowsXP
w/SP1 [XP(1)] to WindowsXP w/SP2 [XP(2)] and to WindowsXP w/SP3 [XP(3)].

The later procedures I'm going to mention require you to have a WindowsXP
w/SP3 CD so, for those with XP(0), XP(1) or XP(2), this first part covers
how to update your exisiting CD from XP(0)/XP(1)/XP(2) to XP(3). A CD burner
and appropriate software is required.

First thing to do is to download the XP SP3 update file:
WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86.exe from the Microsoft download site.

What you are going to do is 'Slipstream' the SP3 download with your original
XP CD, create an ISO file, and burn a new, bootable XP w/SP3 CD. A Google
search on 'slipstreaming' will provide you with particulars on this function
and what it does. A Google search on 'Autostreamer" will provide you with
detailed instructions on using this program. (I decided not to provide that
information with this e-mail as that would greatly expand the size of the
message.) Using AutoStreamer is the easier method and it will create a new
XP w/SP3 ISO file that is then used to burn the new XP w/SP3 CD. I can send
you a copy of AutoStreamer if you're unable to find/download it from the
web.

When you have burned the new XP w/SP3 CD it will have the same product key
as the original XP(0), XP(1), or XP(3) CD and can be used to do a fresh or
repair install.

As we all know, Microsoft also posts updates/patches/hotfixes on their web
site and we can allow our systems to do an automatic update or we go to the
site and run either Microsoft update or Windows update to download and
install various files/programs. If we must do a fresh or a repair install we
can also find ourselves having to download a multitude of files to update
our systems, again and again sometimes.

One way to make this a bit easier is to go to
http://www.autopatcher.com/forums/ and look for the AutoPatcher Updater for
XP (APUP.ZIP). (The AutoPatcher User Guide Instructions, a PDF file can be
found at http://www.autopatcher.com/downloads/ ) It can usually be found in
Announcements. Download APUP.ZIP, create a folder \AutoPatcher, unzip
APUP.ZIP into this folder, double-click on APUP.EXE and wait till you are
presented with a screen listing all possible downloads. Check the box next
to your selection (some are in foreign languages so read the selection to
verify); Office updates are also listed. When finished push the Next button
and wait a bit. Because of the recent posting by Microsoft of SP3 for
Windows XP AutoPatcher will require you to have already installed this
update to your system.

For the initial download these are large files so I hope you have a high
speed connection. The full download is self-extracting and will install into
\AutoPatcher; which is why you created the folder and are running APUP.EXE
from within it. Be patient, it could take over an hour, when done push the
Finish button. Now the \AutoPatcher folder will be full of files and
sub-folders; double-click on AUTOPATCHER.EXE and wait till it's done doing
its thing; you will then be presented with a screen listing of updates for
your system, peruse the complete list and select those you deem
necessary/appropriate and push Next to start the installation of the
updates. Reboot may be required.

Subsequent downloads using APUP.EXE will be much quicker as only
newer/replacement hotfixes/patches/etc will be selected as required for
downloading to your system.

Now, another thing you can do is to use the XP w/SP3 CD as a source and
integrate many of these same updates/patches/fixes/add-ons and create/burn a
new XP w/SP3 CD that now includes these items within it. This new CD will
have the same product key as the original, is bootable, and can be used to
do a clean or repair install. To do that you will need to download the
RyanVM Integrator version 1.5.3 (http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/) and the
latest RVM update pack for Windows XP SP3. They can be found at:
http://www.ryanvm.net/msfn/ . If you look around this site you will also
find many other programs or add-ons that have been developed to be
integrated into your new CD.

To slipstream Windows Media Player 11 and all of its hotfixes into the
Integrated CD you're making with the RyanVM Integrator go here:
http://web.clicknet.ro/boooggy/ and download the WMP11 Slipstreamer and
hotfixes. Instruction on use is on the same page and with the Integrator.

If you want to slipstream various Driver Packs (CPU, chipset, audio, video,
mass storage, LAN, etc) into this new CD you're making then go here:
http://www.driverpacks.net/DriverPacks/ and read the information on the
pages and download the DriverPacks you feel are appropriate. Slipstreaming
the DriverPacks into the CD from within the RyanVM Integrator is the last
thing you do before making the ISO file and then burning a new CD. (Tutorial
is at: http://users.pandora.be/jtdoom/basetute/Eng_tut6b.htm )

I have created new CD's for my Pro and Home systems using the RyanVM
Integrator. I did a repair install of the both the Pro and Home systems and
had no difficulties.

I put all this information together because I know how much of a pain it is
to have to reinstall XP from scratch or to do a repair install. Some of you
may be well aware of all these programs and many of you may not have a clue
as to any of this stuff. Either way, it should be useful to some/many of
you.

I hope it's not too difficult to follow.

Jerry
 
A

Andrew E.

Forget the slipstreaming to xp cd.First off,one can not upgrade from xp home
to xp pro (no matter which SP you try to slipstream into the pro cd),the
upgrade
is for older windows OS...To install pro from xp home,one must boot to xp pro
cd,select install,new copy,delete the partition (xp home),create one,then xp
formats & performs a clean install...Microsoft has never suggested the
"upgrade"
although in "might work" under some instances..
 
E

Everett

Jerry said:
The 'original' disc is an older version, for example it is an original XP
Home CD and since then you have upgraded to SP1 or SP2 or SP3 and,
therefore, you cannot upgrade/repair a 'newer' version with an 'older
version' CD.

What you do is to slipstream the appropriate SP version you downloaded with
the origianl CD, make an .ISO image, and burn a new CD.

Slipstreamer/slipstreaming has many postings - use Google.

AutoStreamer is a program that will help in the process - again Google.

And if you would like to enhance you abilities in the area of slipsteeaming
I would offer the following:

WindowsXP (Home or Pro) went from the original release XP(0) to WindowsXP
w/SP1 [XP(1)] to WindowsXP w/SP2 [XP(2)] and to WindowsXP w/SP3 [XP(3)].

The later procedures I'm going to mention require you to have a WindowsXP
w/SP3 CD so, for those with XP(0), XP(1) or XP(2), this first part covers
how to update your exisiting CD from XP(0)/XP(1)/XP(2) to XP(3). A CD burner
and appropriate software is required.

First thing to do is to download the XP SP3 update file:
WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86.exe from the Microsoft download site.

What you are going to do is 'Slipstream' the SP3 download with your original
XP CD, create an ISO file, and burn a new, bootable XP w/SP3 CD. A Google
search on 'slipstreaming' will provide you with particulars on this function
and what it does. A Google search on 'Autostreamer" will provide you with
detailed instructions on using this program. (I decided not to provide that
information with this e-mail as that would greatly expand the size of the
message.) Using AutoStreamer is the easier method and it will create a new
XP w/SP3 ISO file that is then used to burn the new XP w/SP3 CD. I can send
you a copy of AutoStreamer if you're unable to find/download it from the
web.

When you have burned the new XP w/SP3 CD it will have the same product key
as the original XP(0), XP(1), or XP(3) CD and can be used to do a fresh or
repair install.

As we all know, Microsoft also posts updates/patches/hotfixes on their web
site and we can allow our systems to do an automatic update or we go to the
site and run either Microsoft update or Windows update to download and
install various files/programs. If we must do a fresh or a repair install we
can also find ourselves having to download a multitude of files to update
our systems, again and again sometimes.

One way to make this a bit easier is to go to
http://www.autopatcher.com/forums/ and look for the AutoPatcher Updater for
XP (APUP.ZIP). (The AutoPatcher User Guide Instructions, a PDF file can be
found at http://www.autopatcher.com/downloads/ ) It can usually be found in
Announcements. Download APUP.ZIP, create a folder \AutoPatcher, unzip
APUP.ZIP into this folder, double-click on APUP.EXE and wait till you are
presented with a screen listing all possible downloads. Check the box next
to your selection (some are in foreign languages so read the selection to
verify); Office updates are also listed. When finished push the Next button
and wait a bit. Because of the recent posting by Microsoft of SP3 for
Windows XP AutoPatcher will require you to have already installed this
update to your system.

For the initial download these are large files so I hope you have a high
speed connection. The full download is self-extracting and will install into
\AutoPatcher; which is why you created the folder and are running APUP.EXE
from within it. Be patient, it could take over an hour, when done push the
Finish button. Now the \AutoPatcher folder will be full of files and
sub-folders; double-click on AUTOPATCHER.EXE and wait till it's done doing
its thing; you will then be presented with a screen listing of updates for
your system, peruse the complete list and select those you deem
necessary/appropriate and push Next to start the installation of the
updates. Reboot may be required.

Subsequent downloads using APUP.EXE will be much quicker as only
newer/replacement hotfixes/patches/etc will be selected as required for
downloading to your system.

Now, another thing you can do is to use the XP w/SP3 CD as a source and
integrate many of these same updates/patches/fixes/add-ons and create/burn a
new XP w/SP3 CD that now includes these items within it. This new CD will
have the same product key as the original, is bootable, and can be used to
do a clean or repair install. To do that you will need to download the
RyanVM Integrator version 1.5.3 (http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/) and the
latest RVM update pack for Windows XP SP3. They can be found at:
http://www.ryanvm.net/msfn/ . If you look around this site you will also
find many other programs or add-ons that have been developed to be
integrated into your new CD.

To slipstream Windows Media Player 11 and all of its hotfixes into the
Integrated CD you're making with the RyanVM Integrator go here:
http://web.clicknet.ro/boooggy/ and download the WMP11 Slipstreamer and
hotfixes. Instruction on use is on the same page and with the Integrator.

If you want to slipstream various Driver Packs (CPU, chipset, audio, video,
mass storage, LAN, etc) into this new CD you're making then go here:
http://www.driverpacks.net/DriverPacks/ and read the information on the
pages and download the DriverPacks you feel are appropriate. Slipstreaming
the DriverPacks into the CD from within the RyanVM Integrator is the last
thing you do before making the ISO file and then burning a new CD. (Tutorial
is at: http://users.pandora.be/jtdoom/basetute/Eng_tut6b.htm )

I have created new CD's for my Pro and Home systems using the RyanVM
Integrator. I did a repair install of the both the Pro and Home systems and
had no difficulties.

I put all this information together because I know how much of a pain it is
to have to reinstall XP from scratch or to do a repair install. Some of you
may be well aware of all these programs and many of you may not have a clue
as to any of this stuff. Either way, it should be useful to some/many of
you.

I hope it's not too difficult to follow.

Jerry

Julia Sheppard said:
Hello, I want to install XP Pro on a computer that currently has Home
installed. whe i try and install it a message appears sayin the version
currently on is newer and it won't let me continue. Even when i try and
reinstall Home the same message applies. I've looked in 'add & remove
programmes' but xp doesn't appear there. Has anyone any suggestions. I
can't
even repair 'Home' with the original disc that it was installed with.
 
E

Everett

Jerry: Sounds like a plan. I wish to to basically the same as Julia. I have
an older Pentium 4 with Intels D865GBF chipset that came with a Windows XP
SP1 CD. It has been upgraded to SP2 then SP3 just yesterday.
I realized during this process ( had major hassle getting SP3) that I seem
to have files all over the place, multiple users , etc. and I want to start
from scratch.
When you make the new slipstreamed CD as you suggest will I have to get the
SP2 upgrade slipstreamed into it as well? I have backed up all the files I
consider important to install after the fresh start. I have had Belarc run a
Profile on my computer and got all the info to locate the various drivers I
may need. I have printed your reply to Julia and am ready to start the
process. Any thing else I should be on the look out for??

Jerry said:
The 'original' disc is an older version, for example it is an original XP
Home CD and since then you have upgraded to SP1 or SP2 or SP3 and,
therefore, you cannot upgrade/repair a 'newer' version with an 'older
version' CD.

What you do is to slipstream the appropriate SP version you downloaded with
the origianl CD, make an .ISO image, and burn a new CD.

Slipstreamer/slipstreaming has many postings - use Google.

AutoStreamer is a program that will help in the process - again Google.

And if you would like to enhance you abilities in the area of slipsteeaming
I would offer the following:

WindowsXP (Home or Pro) went from the original release XP(0) to WindowsXP
w/SP1 [XP(1)] to WindowsXP w/SP2 [XP(2)] and to WindowsXP w/SP3 [XP(3)].

The later procedures I'm going to mention require you to have a WindowsXP
w/SP3 CD so, for those with XP(0), XP(1) or XP(2), this first part covers
how to update your exisiting CD from XP(0)/XP(1)/XP(2) to XP(3). A CD burner
and appropriate software is required.

First thing to do is to download the XP SP3 update file:
WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86.exe from the Microsoft download site.

What you are going to do is 'Slipstream' the SP3 download with your original
XP CD, create an ISO file, and burn a new, bootable XP w/SP3 CD. A Google
search on 'slipstreaming' will provide you with particulars on this function
and what it does. A Google search on 'Autostreamer" will provide you with
detailed instructions on using this program. (I decided not to provide that
information with this e-mail as that would greatly expand the size of the
message.) Using AutoStreamer is the easier method and it will create a new
XP w/SP3 ISO file that is then used to burn the new XP w/SP3 CD. I can send
you a copy of AutoStreamer if you're unable to find/download it from the
web.

When you have burned the new XP w/SP3 CD it will have the same product key
as the original XP(0), XP(1), or XP(3) CD and can be used to do a fresh or
repair install.

As we all know, Microsoft also posts updates/patches/hotfixes on their web
site and we can allow our systems to do an automatic update or we go to the
site and run either Microsoft update or Windows update to download and
install various files/programs. If we must do a fresh or a repair install we
can also find ourselves having to download a multitude of files to update
our systems, again and again sometimes.

One way to make this a bit easier is to go to
http://www.autopatcher.com/forums/ and look for the AutoPatcher Updater for
XP (APUP.ZIP). (The AutoPatcher User Guide Instructions, a PDF file can be
found at http://www.autopatcher.com/downloads/ ) It can usually be found in
Announcements. Download APUP.ZIP, create a folder \AutoPatcher, unzip
APUP.ZIP into this folder, double-click on APUP.EXE and wait till you are
presented with a screen listing all possible downloads. Check the box next
to your selection (some are in foreign languages so read the selection to
verify); Office updates are also listed. When finished push the Next button
and wait a bit. Because of the recent posting by Microsoft of SP3 for
Windows XP AutoPatcher will require you to have already installed this
update to your system.

For the initial download these are large files so I hope you have a high
speed connection. The full download is self-extracting and will install into
\AutoPatcher; which is why you created the folder and are running APUP.EXE
from within it. Be patient, it could take over an hour, when done push the
Finish button. Now the \AutoPatcher folder will be full of files and
sub-folders; double-click on AUTOPATCHER.EXE and wait till it's done doing
its thing; you will then be presented with a screen listing of updates for
your system, peruse the complete list and select those you deem
necessary/appropriate and push Next to start the installation of the
updates. Reboot may be required.

Subsequent downloads using APUP.EXE will be much quicker as only
newer/replacement hotfixes/patches/etc will be selected as required for
downloading to your system.

Now, another thing you can do is to use the XP w/SP3 CD as a source and
integrate many of these same updates/patches/fixes/add-ons and create/burn a
new XP w/SP3 CD that now includes these items within it. This new CD will
have the same product key as the original, is bootable, and can be used to
do a clean or repair install. To do that you will need to download the
RyanVM Integrator version 1.5.3 (http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/) and the
latest RVM update pack for Windows XP SP3. They can be found at:
http://www.ryanvm.net/msfn/ . If you look around this site you will also
find many other programs or add-ons that have been developed to be
integrated into your new CD.

To slipstream Windows Media Player 11 and all of its hotfixes into the
Integrated CD you're making with the RyanVM Integrator go here:
http://web.clicknet.ro/boooggy/ and download the WMP11 Slipstreamer and
hotfixes. Instruction on use is on the same page and with the Integrator.

If you want to slipstream various Driver Packs (CPU, chipset, audio, video,
mass storage, LAN, etc) into this new CD you're making then go here:
http://www.driverpacks.net/DriverPacks/ and read the information on the
pages and download the DriverPacks you feel are appropriate. Slipstreaming
the DriverPacks into the CD from within the RyanVM Integrator is the last
thing you do before making the ISO file and then burning a new CD. (Tutorial
is at: http://users.pandora.be/jtdoom/basetute/Eng_tut6b.htm )

I have created new CD's for my Pro and Home systems using the RyanVM
Integrator. I did a repair install of the both the Pro and Home systems and
had no difficulties.

I put all this information together because I know how much of a pain it is
to have to reinstall XP from scratch or to do a repair install. Some of you
may be well aware of all these programs and many of you may not have a clue
as to any of this stuff. Either way, it should be useful to some/many of
you.

I hope it's not too difficult to follow.

Jerry

Julia Sheppard said:
Hello, I want to install XP Pro on a computer that currently has Home
installed. whe i try and install it a message appears sayin the version
currently on is newer and it won't let me continue. Even when i try and
reinstall Home the same message applies. I've looked in 'add & remove
programmes' but xp doesn't appear there. Has anyone any suggestions. I
can't
even repair 'Home' with the original disc that it was installed with.
 
J

Jerry

Everett,

You can go straight to SP3 - service packs are cumulative.

Everett said:
Jerry: Sounds like a plan. I wish to to basically the same as Julia. I
have
an older Pentium 4 with Intels D865GBF chipset that came with a Windows XP
SP1 CD. It has been upgraded to SP2 then SP3 just yesterday.
I realized during this process ( had major hassle getting SP3) that I seem
to have files all over the place, multiple users , etc. and I want to
start
from scratch.
When you make the new slipstreamed CD as you suggest will I have to get
the
SP2 upgrade slipstreamed into it as well? I have backed up all the files I
consider important to install after the fresh start. I have had Belarc run
a
Profile on my computer and got all the info to locate the various drivers
I
may need. I have printed your reply to Julia and am ready to start the
process. Any thing else I should be on the look out for??

Jerry said:
The 'original' disc is an older version, for example it is an original XP
Home CD and since then you have upgraded to SP1 or SP2 or SP3 and,
therefore, you cannot upgrade/repair a 'newer' version with an 'older
version' CD.

What you do is to slipstream the appropriate SP version you downloaded
with
the origianl CD, make an .ISO image, and burn a new CD.

Slipstreamer/slipstreaming has many postings - use Google.

AutoStreamer is a program that will help in the process - again Google.

And if you would like to enhance you abilities in the area of
slipsteeaming
I would offer the following:

WindowsXP (Home or Pro) went from the original release XP(0) to WindowsXP
w/SP1 [XP(1)] to WindowsXP w/SP2 [XP(2)] and to WindowsXP w/SP3 [XP(3)].

The later procedures I'm going to mention require you to have a WindowsXP
w/SP3 CD so, for those with XP(0), XP(1) or XP(2), this first part covers
how to update your exisiting CD from XP(0)/XP(1)/XP(2) to XP(3). A CD
burner
and appropriate software is required.

First thing to do is to download the XP SP3 update file:
WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86.exe from the Microsoft download site.

What you are going to do is 'Slipstream' the SP3 download with your
original
XP CD, create an ISO file, and burn a new, bootable XP w/SP3 CD. A Google
search on 'slipstreaming' will provide you with particulars on this
function
and what it does. A Google search on 'Autostreamer" will provide you with
detailed instructions on using this program. (I decided not to provide
that
information with this e-mail as that would greatly expand the size of the
message.) Using AutoStreamer is the easier method and it will create a
new
XP w/SP3 ISO file that is then used to burn the new XP w/SP3 CD. I can
send
you a copy of AutoStreamer if you're unable to find/download it from the
web.

When you have burned the new XP w/SP3 CD it will have the same product
key
as the original XP(0), XP(1), or XP(3) CD and can be used to do a fresh
or
repair install.

As we all know, Microsoft also posts updates/patches/hotfixes on their
web
site and we can allow our systems to do an automatic update or we go to
the
site and run either Microsoft update or Windows update to download and
install various files/programs. If we must do a fresh or a repair install
we
can also find ourselves having to download a multitude of files to update
our systems, again and again sometimes.

One way to make this a bit easier is to go to
http://www.autopatcher.com/forums/ and look for the AutoPatcher Updater
for
XP (APUP.ZIP). (The AutoPatcher User Guide Instructions, a PDF file can
be
found at http://www.autopatcher.com/downloads/ ) It can usually be found
in
Announcements. Download APUP.ZIP, create a folder \AutoPatcher, unzip
APUP.ZIP into this folder, double-click on APUP.EXE and wait till you are
presented with a screen listing all possible downloads. Check the box
next
to your selection (some are in foreign languages so read the selection to
verify); Office updates are also listed. When finished push the Next
button
and wait a bit. Because of the recent posting by Microsoft of SP3 for
Windows XP AutoPatcher will require you to have already installed this
update to your system.

For the initial download these are large files so I hope you have a high
speed connection. The full download is self-extracting and will install
into
\AutoPatcher; which is why you created the folder and are running
APUP.EXE
from within it. Be patient, it could take over an hour, when done push
the
Finish button. Now the \AutoPatcher folder will be full of files and
sub-folders; double-click on AUTOPATCHER.EXE and wait till it's done
doing
its thing; you will then be presented with a screen listing of updates
for
your system, peruse the complete list and select those you deem
necessary/appropriate and push Next to start the installation of the
updates. Reboot may be required.

Subsequent downloads using APUP.EXE will be much quicker as only
newer/replacement hotfixes/patches/etc will be selected as required for
downloading to your system.

Now, another thing you can do is to use the XP w/SP3 CD as a source and
integrate many of these same updates/patches/fixes/add-ons and
create/burn a
new XP w/SP3 CD that now includes these items within it. This new CD will
have the same product key as the original, is bootable, and can be used
to
do a clean or repair install. To do that you will need to download the
RyanVM Integrator version 1.5.3 (http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/) and the
latest RVM update pack for Windows XP SP3. They can be found at:
http://www.ryanvm.net/msfn/ . If you look around this site you will also
find many other programs or add-ons that have been developed to be
integrated into your new CD.

To slipstream Windows Media Player 11 and all of its hotfixes into the
Integrated CD you're making with the RyanVM Integrator go here:
http://web.clicknet.ro/boooggy/ and download the WMP11 Slipstreamer and
hotfixes. Instruction on use is on the same page and with the Integrator.

If you want to slipstream various Driver Packs (CPU, chipset, audio,
video,
mass storage, LAN, etc) into this new CD you're making then go here:
http://www.driverpacks.net/DriverPacks/ and read the information on the
pages and download the DriverPacks you feel are appropriate.
Slipstreaming
the DriverPacks into the CD from within the RyanVM Integrator is the last
thing you do before making the ISO file and then burning a new CD.
(Tutorial
is at: http://users.pandora.be/jtdoom/basetute/Eng_tut6b.htm )

I have created new CD's for my Pro and Home systems using the RyanVM
Integrator. I did a repair install of the both the Pro and Home systems
and
had no difficulties.

I put all this information together because I know how much of a pain it
is
to have to reinstall XP from scratch or to do a repair install. Some of
you
may be well aware of all these programs and many of you may not have a
clue
as to any of this stuff. Either way, it should be useful to some/many of
you.

I hope it's not too difficult to follow.

Jerry

message
Hello, I want to install XP Pro on a computer that currently has Home
installed. whe i try and install it a message appears sayin the version
currently on is newer and it won't let me continue. Even when i try and
reinstall Home the same message applies. I've looked in 'add & remove
programmes' but xp doesn't appear there. Has anyone any suggestions. I
can't
even repair 'Home' with the original disc that it was installed with.
 

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