Registry Cleanup Software

[Antioch]

Morons?????????????
Speaking for yourself I assume
Antioch

 

[Guest]

In Line

SO TRUE
Never experienced it using a regcleaner. More chance of not being able
to boot if you ever run regedit and accidentely lean on the keyboard.

you are are more experienced than others

Anyway, rule number one is that even a dummy should always have a backup
of critical data.

Even then, it's simply a case of running Windows repair from the CD.

Wrong, my wife bought and downloaded one, without my knowledge on the advise
some so called pc expert gave her, and it crashed her pc beyond doing a
repair. Lucky I backed up her pc and after serveral attempts of trying to
repair, I finally had no choise but to reinstal XP over itself, reinstall all
programs. Luckily her data did not get lost and I was able to get outlook
configured to use her pst. I would never recommend any novise to use a
utility that needs more than a casual knowledge on how to use it.

 

[Guest]

I find that to be good advice and would reccomend it.

 

[Guest]

Good answer.

Using the /m and /u options for the Office setup fixes this in most cases.


I agree Norton and Zonealarm both have this problem. Both companies offer
free downloads to remove the entries. These downloads have the advantage of
also deleting the files the uninstaller left behind.


I have seen many computers that have had problems after running a registry
cleaner program in auto mode. I do occasionally use registry cleaner
programs myself. They do have a use in the hands of a knowledgeable user. My
gripe is recommending them to users without the necessary knowledge to use
them safely. I also think the claims of speeding up Windows load times and
fixing BSOD's and such are specious at best.

Kerry

 

[Guest]

Thanks to all on this thread. I've gotten the gist of the controversy, and
some good advice.

I didn't know about "complete uninstall." That sounds like a good idea. It
sounds like incomplete uninstalls are an ongoing issue, and the main reason
that registry cleaners might sometimes be useful. It seems very likely that
some uninstalls on my machine have been incomplete. OTOH, it sounds like
incomplete uninstalls are normally harmless, or trivial problems.

I'm vaguely aware of some kind of XP-native hard disk cleanup utility. Not
regedit.exe. One poster mentioned it. I'll get more familiar with that first.

My machine is probably working about as well as any XP machine will ever
work. I just want to keep it that way.

You can stop arguing now. At least, don't do it for my benefit.

Have a nice day.

Tim

 

[Antioch]

Hello SNAT
Hope you are still reading this thread.
Speaking as a Newbie(God I hate that description)an amateur, inexpert,
non-professional, new to the game, but someone eager to take notice and
learn from those far more advanced in the knowledge of their particular
field in computers than you or I, e.g Shenan, Kelly, David, Malke, Wesley
and all the other 'Most Valued Players', be warned.
It always worries me when those who resort to insult, rudeness or dismissive
single adjectives(e.g. bollocks - whatever the spelling) when their side of
an argument runs out of purpose or reason.
I have, shamed to admit it, twice taken the wrong advice and have regretted
it bitterly. One was a registry cleaner.
I read these Newsgroups for 6 months before posting my first question. It
gives one the flavour of what goes on in them.
It is full of people like me who are looking for expert help.
If you dont take their advice then suffer the consequences.
I think you said something..'youve got to have a life...'
Do you have to have a computer, I would ask?
If its Yes, then I would suggest you have the answer to the question you
posted.
If it aint broken, then dont fix it. I know its corny but it is so true.
Over the past years DIY has flourished. It is now on the decline. During
that period, qualified carpenters, plumbers, electricians etc have been
reaping the benefit of those who thought 'I can fix it'
and tried before bothering to look into the job first.
So if you must change the tap baths, are you going to ask the bloke behind
the counter how to do it or ask a qualified plumber?
The choice is yours.
I hope you pick the right one.
Good luck
Rgds
Antioch
'You cant educate pork' - I know. I'm still trying.

 

[Antioch]

MANY THANKS for this - its brilliantly laid out. Everything in one place.
Its saved to disc for future reference.
Antioch

 

[Guest]

Hello SNAT
Hope you are still reading this thread.
Speaking as a Newbie(God I hate that description)an amateur, inexpert,
--snip--
It is full of people like me who are looking for expert help.
If you dont take their advice then suffer the consequences.
I think you said something..'youve got to have a life...'
Do you have to have a computer, I would ask?
If its Yes, then I would suggest you have the answer to the question you
posted.
If it aint broken, then dont fix it. I know its corny but it is so true.

--snip --

Thanks Antioch, that was a good reply.

After reading this thread and thinking about it, I'm leaning toward the "if
it ain't broken..." position, just as you say.

I'm not as clueless as I might have seemed. I have found myself in the
unfortunate position of being responsible for the maintenance of two Mac OS 9
Computers, two Mac OS 10 computers and one Windows XP computer. I know the
Mac OS pretty well, both versions. I know you've gotta do your homework if
you want your computer to work reliably, particularly if you depend on it and
do a lot of different stuff with it. But three OSs is too much for me. XP was
the most recent entry, and I got it primarily so I could use Dragon Naturally
Speaking. (I do some other non-essential things with it.)

So I'm neglecting XP as much as possible. I just want it not to break.
Computers are useful to me in business, and I use them some in my personal
life, but this is not my hobby!

So this is good news. It ain't broke so I don't gotta fix it!

This whole grim thread is one of the reasons I remain a Mac loyalist.
Somehow OS X gets along without a registry. The Mac OS has always kept closer
to the KISS "keep it simple, stupid" than Windows, it seems to me. Especially
OS X. The recent bad news about Longhorn seems to suggest that Apple has been
getting it right all along, despite its small market share.

I don't mean to rub anyone's nose in the bad news. It must be very troubling
for people who depend heavily on Windows. And I know very well that is the
vast majority of all personal computer users. I sympathize.

With all due respect... This is a Windows board, after all... And I will
admit though that XP has been remarkably stable.

And by the way, let's not quarrel about this Apple stuff. It's just my
..0000000002 cents worth. Not worth a single electron.


Cheers,


Tim

 

[Alias]

And by the way, let's not quarrel about this Apple stuff. It's just my
.0000000002 cents worth. Not worth a single electron.


Cheers,


Tim

What with WPA, WGA and whatever other hoops MS wants to put their paying
customers through in the future, my next computer will be a MAC.

Alias

 

[Antioch]

Then I wish you the best for the future with your 'charges' - quite a bunch
to look after.
If you are in business and you dont have a 'tame IT mate' I can understand
the reasons for wanting to do what you can 'in-house' At £40 - £60 per
hour, and plus in some cases I have researched, then its down to you.
I looked at MAC but cost stopped me otherwise.......
All I can add is that I tried a 'free system check on registry' and quite
honestly, when it dug up some 161 probs(no lie)
I nearl sh one t myself.
I spent money I would have liked to use on a headset, did the cleanup and
cleaned out the computer. Im still putting it back together with the help
of all these great people in this newsgroup. I was quoted £125 as cheapest
to put all back together.
I know it was ME who cocked up - the prog was probably fine.
But as I have pointed out, I am still trying to 'educate that pork.'
Take care then with the DIY
Antioch

 

[Stan Brown]

Your "Global' statement that Reg Cleaners & Compressors are the
"Best" way to keep your PC running smoothly/fast is far more reckless
and dangerous than the post you replied to. What you just stated may
cause inexperienced XP users to rush out and run JV16. If only 1 or
2 users render their machines unusable - you've really helped them out.

The advocacy of Registry Cleaners is frowned on here. Use them if
you want - Just don't come to XP-Gen and recommend them to others.

Next you'll be telling me top posters aren't welcome either [/QUOTE]

They're not, but that ship has sailed in Microsoft-hosted newsgroups.

JV16 is "exactly" what the novice needs, rather than tinkering manually.
As for your statement "The advocacy of Registry Cleaners is frowned on
here" - all I can to that is what a load of bollox! How come it always
takes me only a few posts to find the self-appointed 'net policeman?

How come people who post disinformation always complain when they are
corrected, and accuse the helpful people who post corrections of
being "netcops" or (your variant) "net policemen"?

We _need_ folks like Ron as long as we have people posting error as
fact and misleading less sophisticated people.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's
game because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be
indistinguishable from -- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds
possessing infinite amounts of free time."
-- Neil Stephenson, /Cryptonomicon/

 

[Stan Brown]

Please get a thesaurus and find another word besides bollox,
with is actually spelled Bollix.

Actually, in the OP's sense of the word it's "bollocks", the UK
spelling of "b-llsh-t".

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's
game because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be
indistinguishable from -- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds
possessing infinite amounts of free time."
-- Neil Stephenson, /Cryptonomicon/

 

[Stan Brown]

And the reason you know this is?

You need to think about what you read. He was pointing out, by
example, that you DON'T KNOW your "registry cleaner" has saved you,
since the whole idea is to prevent problems. There's no way to count
non-events.



--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's
game because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be
indistinguishable from -- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds
possessing infinite amounts of free time."
-- Neil Stephenson, /Cryptonomicon/

 

[Stan Brown]

Can you tell me what the benefits are of cleaning or
compacting the registry with Windows XP?

Kerry

Faster boot, faster shutdown, less "blue screens of death", less hangs etc.
Lu[/QUOTE]

Citations, please?

Let's have some hard numbers, not just repeating your ungrounded
assertions.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's
game because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be
indistinguishable from -- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds
possessing infinite amounts of free time."
-- Neil Stephenson, /Cryptonomicon/

 

[Stan Brown]

Can you point me to a site or supply some empirical data that supports what
your saying?

No. Can you?[/QUOTE]

Well, I'll give you points for being honest when pushed to the wall,
which is better than many Net kooks do.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
"Arguing with anonymous strangers on the Internet is a sucker's
game because they almost always turn out to be -- or to be
indistinguishable from -- self-righteous sixteen-year-olds
possessing infinite amounts of free time."
-- Neil Stephenson, /Cryptonomicon/

 

[Ken Blake]

Actually, in the OP's sense of the word it's "bollocks", the UK
spelling of "b-llsh-t".

Actually, a number of variant spellings can be found in reference
works--"bollux," "bollix," bollocks," and "ballocks." Its literal meaning
is "testicles," not "b-llsh-t."

 

[Nightowl]

Actually, a number of variant spellings can be found in reference
works--"bollux," "bollix," bollocks," and "ballocks." Its literal meaning
is "testicles," not "b-llsh-t."

Another well-loved UK variant is "cobblers", as in "What a load of. . .
or "That's a load of. . .

But I'm puzzled. . . how come we can discuss variations of "bollocks"
(as Stan said, my regional spelling) quite happily but suddenly go coy
and have a beeping fit with "b-llsh-t"? Is this word deemed shockingly
offensive in America?

 

[Stan Brown]

Actually, in the OP's sense of the word it's "bollocks", the UK
spelling of "b-llsh-t".

Actually, a number of variant spellings can be found in reference
works--"bollux," "bollix," bollocks," and "ballocks." Its literal meaning
is "testicles," not "b-llsh-t."[/QUOTE]

You're correct about the literal meaning; but then the literal
meaning of "b-llsh-t" isn't relevant here either, if you think about
it.

What I meant was that their figurative meanings are equivalent, in
this context anyway.

As for the spellings, I could be wrong, but I always thought
"bollix" was a verb: something was bollixed if it had been made a
mess of. "The CEO really bollixed up this year's health insurance
plan." I've never seen "bollux" or "ballocks", but then perhaps I've
led a sheltered life.

 

[Stan Brown]

Actually, a number of variant spellings can be found in reference
works--"bollux," "bollix," bollocks," and "ballocks." Its literal meaning
is "testicles," not "b-llsh-t."

Another well-loved UK variant is "cobblers", as in "What a load of. . .
or "That's a load of. . .

But I'm puzzled. . . how come we can discuss variations of "bollocks"
(as Stan said, my regional spelling) quite happily but suddenly go coy
and have a beeping fit with "b-llsh-t"? Is this word deemed shockingly
offensive in America?[/QUOTE]

Sorry, my bad. Because it's not a "dirty word" in the US I didn't
think to mask it with hyphens. Usually I'm more internationally
sensitive. As Monty Python said, "what a silly bunt!"

 

[Nightowl]

Sorry, my bad. Because it's not a "dirty word" in the US I didn't
think to mask it with hyphens. Usually I'm more internationally
sensitive. As Monty Python said, "what a silly bunt!"

Heh. . . well, thanks, Stan, but no need to apologize. My point was
rather that I don't see *any* of them as "dirty" words, hence my
puzzlement at the sudden flurry of hyphens for poor ol' BS.