registry cleaners

U

Unknown

I think you have a cranium, rectum inversion. You stated I never used a
registry cleaner, that is BS. What on earth do you base that on? Is that the
way YOU think? I don't use one now because of my experience with the one I
used.
 
T

Twayne

Billco wrote:

....
Which makes it a bit ambiguous, essentially by definition.
(Unambiguous implies that it is certiable and quantifiable).

Boy, you're pathetic:
-----------------------
Unambiguous:
un·am·big·u·ous (un'am-big'yoo-?s) Pronunciation Key
adj. Having or exhibiting no ambiguity or uncertainty; clear.

un'am·big'u·ous·ly adv.
------------------------------
ambiguous:
am·big·u·ous
/æm'b?gyu?s/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [am-big-yoo-uhs] Show IPA
Pronunciation

–adjective 1. open to or having several possible meanings or
interpretations; equivocal: an ambiguous answer.
2. Linguistics. (of an expression) exhibiting constructional
homonymity; having two or more structural descriptions, as the sequence
Flying planes can be dangerous.
3. of doubtful or uncertain nature; difficult to comprehend,
distinguish, or classify: a rock of ambiguous character.
4. lacking clearness or definiteness; obscure; indistinct: an
ambiguous shape; an ambiguous future.

--------------------------
But there are no objective, certifiable, and quantifiable tests with
results to prove that.

Speaking of ambiguous, to prove what?

Efficienty has NOTHING to do with the amount of anything; it's the speed
at which the activity can occur. Scanning 6 vs 4 Meg or RAM does
nothing to determine efficiency; the scanning process if efficient or
not, and does not depend on how MUCH of something has to be scanned.
But that would be extremely insignificant [NO], and not even
noticeable[WRONG].
I mean, if you follow that logic, than removing any extraneous entry
in anything is beneficial[OF COURSE IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL; FEWER
COMPONENTS = FEWER CHANCES OF ERROR], end of story (which sounds
theoretically
:). ut the problem is what usually happens as a consequence of
that, for something unforseen (meaning, that assumed spurious entry
really wasn't extraneous, afterall - and no registry program is smart
enough to flag and catch all of them).

You obviously have no concept of what's in the registry nor how simple
it is to read a line and see if the corresponding data it wants is
available. It's as simple as veryfying that whatever the registry is
calling for exists or not in a usable state, really. There are only a
very few, specific instances where the registry can legitimately ask for
something that isn't yet in existance and it may ask if the user wants
to remove those. But every single one of those programs I have ever
seen, TELL YOU SO and suggest that you set your scanners to ignore the
entry. So again, it boils down to credibility. I run two of those
programs in fact, and since it's the registry that's responsible for
triggering the program that will create something on the fly, the progam
can know that is the case. I don't have to ingore it; the scanner
already knows it.

The point is there is
nothing really (practically) to be gained using a registry cleaner,

Except speed when the reason for loss of speed is contained in the
registry. And slow boot times. And failing logoff times. Anytime the
20 second timer has to expire, etc.. So there ARE practical gains to be
realized with a registry editor. It's just that the registry isn't
usually the culprit and isn't really the first place to bother looking;
other sources are much more likely. But once they're eliminated, and it
doesn't take much to do that, well ... 2 guesses what I do next and
yours don't count.

unless you are trying to, say, customize something, or perhaps remove
a bunch of items from the windows Recent history list,

Wrong way to remove Recent History, BTW. Unnecessary and inefficient
way, in fact.

or fix a
specific program bug due to an erroneous registry entry, or something
like that) that can't otherwise be done.

Wrong again. Your lack of information is only outdone by your
ignroance.
 
T

Twayne

I think you have a cranium, rectum inversion. You stated I never used
a registry cleaner, that is BS. What on earth do you base that on? Is
that the way YOU think? I don't use one now because of my experience
with the one I used.

I base my opinion on the fact that you have never referenced anything
useful, nor provided anything to support any of your claims. But you do
us a lot of other people's words, like you're trying to "belong".

Sooo, if I'm wrong in my opinion, correct me. It would appear you used
"one", once, who knows from where or what you did, and thus have painted
every one in existance black because of your vast experience with a
total of one. And with nada for details to boot. Next?

Twayne
 
T

Twayne

But, why tell people to learn to use defective tools?

I don't. Why do YOU tell people not to use pefectely good, useful
tools? Based on your past experience of ONE TIME?
 
B

Bill in Co.

Twayne said:
Billco wrote:

Ummm, no, I didn't write all of this below, but I did write some of it. Do
you understand the concept of attributions? (the term is in the
dictionary, too)
Which makes it a bit ambiguous, essentially by definition.
(Unambiguous implies that it is certiable and quantifiable).

Boy, you're pathetic:
-----------------------
Unambiguous:
un·am·big·u·ous (un'am-big'yoo-?s) Pronunciation Key
adj. Having or exhibiting no ambiguity or uncertainty; clear.

un'am·big'u·ous·ly adv.
------------------------------
ambiguous:
am·big·u·ous
/æm'b?gyu?s/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [am-big-yoo-uhs] Show IPA
Pronunciation

-adjective 1. open to or having several possible meanings or
interpretations; equivocal: an ambiguous answer.
2. Linguistics. (of an expression) exhibiting constructional
homonymity; having two or more structural descriptions, as the sequence
Flying planes can be dangerous.
3. of doubtful or uncertain nature; difficult to comprehend,
distinguish, or classify: a rock of ambiguous character.
4. lacking clearness or definiteness; obscure; indistinct: an
ambiguous shape; an ambiguous future.

--------------------------
But there are no objective, certifiable, and quantifiable tests with
results to prove that.

Speaking of ambiguous, to prove what?

I didn't write this below. Do you know who did? Missing attribution.
Efficienty has NOTHING to do with the amount of anything; it's the speed
at which the activity can occur. Scanning 6 vs 4 Meg or RAM does
nothing to determine efficiency; the scanning process if efficient or
not, and does not depend on how MUCH of something has to be scanned.
But that would be extremely insignificant [NO], and not even
noticeable[WRONG].
I mean, if you follow that logic, than removing any extraneous entry
in anything is beneficial[OF COURSE IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL; FEWER
COMPONENTS = FEWER CHANCES OF ERROR], end of story (which sounds
theoretically
:). ut the problem is what usually happens as a consequence of
that, for something unforseen (meaning, that assumed spurious entry
really wasn't extraneous, afterall - and no registry program is smart
enough to flag and catch all of them).

You obviously have no concept of what's in the registry nor how simple
it is to read a line and see if the corresponding data it wants is
available. It's as simple as veryfying that whatever the registry is
calling for exists or not in a usable state, really. There are only a
very few, specific instances where the registry can legitimately ask for
something that isn't yet in existance and it may ask if the user wants
to remove those. But every single one of those programs I have ever
seen, TELL YOU SO and suggest that you set your scanners to ignore the
entry. So again, it boils down to credibility. I run two of those
programs in fact, and since it's the registry that's responsible for
triggering the program that will create something on the fly, the progam
can know that is the case. I don't have to ingore it; the scanner
already knows it.

The point is there is
nothing really (practically) to be gained using a registry cleaner,

Except speed when the reason for loss of speed is contained in the
registry. And slow boot times. And failing logoff times. Anytime the
20 second timer has to expire, etc.. So there ARE practical gains to be
realized with a registry editor. It's just that the registry isn't
usually the culprit and isn't really the first place to bother looking;
other sources are much more likely. But once they're eliminated, and it
doesn't take much to do that, well ... 2 guesses what I do next and
yours don't count.

unless you are trying to, say, customize something, or perhaps remove
a bunch of items from the windows Recent history list,

Wrong way to remove Recent History, BTW. Unnecessary and inefficient
way, in fact.

or fix a
specific program bug due to an erroneous registry entry, or something
like that) that can't otherwise be done.

Wrong again. Your lack of information is only outdone by your
ignroance.
Eggzactly!
 
U

Unknown

Twayne said:
I base my opinion on the fact that you have never referenced anything
useful, nor provided anything to support any of your claims. But you do
us a lot of other people's words, like you're trying to "belong".
How do I support my claim that I used a registry cleaner and it fouled up my
system?
Do I get a witness and make a sworn statement? Get real!
Sooo, if I'm wrong in my opinion, correct me. It would appear you used
"one", once, who knows from where or what you did, and thus have painted
every one in existance black because of your vast experience with a total
of one. And with nada for details to boot. Next?

Yes I used one once and I might add NEVER again. Like others say "snake
oil".
What details satisfy you? I couldn't boot up after using the reg cleaner.
But you wouldn't believe that anyway.
Your basic problem is erroneous assumptions and opinions.
 
U

Unknown

I doubt that. Twain isn't bright enough to get info from any other source
but his assumptions.
Just ask him.
 
U

Unknown

Pefectely good?????
Based on my experience and many others. If you read these newsgroups (or had
any programming experience)
you would know that. But, you continue to assume.
 
D

David H. Lipman

From: "Twayne" <[email protected]>

| I base my opinion on the fact that you have never referenced anything
| useful, nor provided anything to support any of your claims. But you do
| us a lot of other people's words, like you're trying to "belong".

| Sooo, if I'm wrong in my opinion, correct me. It would appear you used
| "one", once, who knows from where or what you did, and thus have painted
| every one in existance black because of your vast experience with a
| total of one. And with nada for details to boot. Next?

| Twayne



Twayne:

I again respectfully request... Please post the Microsoft URL.
 
T

Twayne

Twayne said:
How do I support my claim that I used a registry cleaner and it
fouled up my system?
Do I get a witness and make a sworn statement? Get real!

Ohh, I see, a believable description of events is beyond you, right?
It's a little moot though since it's one out of many millions of uses
you base your opinion of millions of uses on. You must lead a
frustrating life; I can only imagine what happens when one tire goes
flat for no apparent reason, or you switch to ice boxes becuase a
refrigerator needed a recharge, or your car ...
Yes I used one once and I might add NEVER again. Like others say
"snake oil".

Soo, using ONE, ONCE, makes them all snake oil? That's rich! I hope
you have Bridgestone tires on your vehicle.
What details satisfy you? I couldn't boot up after using the reg
cleaner. But you wouldn't believe that anyway.
Your basic problem is erroneous assumptions and opinions.

Well, I assume you only used one unidentified cleaner once on an
unidentified operating system where there was already an unidentified
problem, so, that's definitely a great reason for your erroneous
assumptions and opinions. Nah, don't base anything on reality or do any
research to KNOW what you're dealing with; just stick with myths and
love the people that you decide to parrot because it makes you feel
right, the fact of wheter you are or not being completely meaningless to
you.
You incorrectly spelled a word wrong once that I took notice of.
Therefore, using your methodology, I must put you in the forever
ignorant and uneducated category. Right?

lol, why is it you can't think for yourself? Why do you let one
incident color you for life? I can only wonder what your general life
must be like. It has to be, well, different.

Twayne

 
T

Twayne

From: "Twayne said:
Twayne:

I again respectfully request... Please post the Microsoft URL.

I'm sorry, David; I don't keep close track of these things. Which URL
are you interested in?

Regards,

Twayne
 
T

Twayne

Pefectely good?????
Based on my experience and many others. If you read these newsgroups
(or had any programming experience)
you would know that. But, you continue to assume.

I've read these newsgroups for years, which you could tell if you
weren't too lazy to look back at them. You would even find some
interesting posts about registry cleaners to BC Boy if you looked far
enough into the archives.

As for programming experience, yes, I do have experience. But what does
that have to do with anything under discussion? It's just another
attempt to turn things to another subject on your part and depart the
purpose of the posts; namely the misinformation that no registry cleaner
of any kind is, never has been, and never will be of any use. There are
several good ones out there that are no more dangerous to the registry
than installing Office or Word of any Microsoft application. In fact,
I'd go so far as to say less dangerous considering a few of MS's
missteps over the years.
So, I read these groups, and have for a long time, and have
programming experience. So?
And I assume nothing, unlike you. I use and have used registry
cleaners for years and NEVER had one glitch on me for any reason. I
have never had one damage my system. I've been with windows since
windows 3.0. And I've always used what research showed to be
functional, reliable registry cleaners. Unlike you. Your lack of
knowledge only shows your ignorance of you would have made more of a
comment about programming, in particular, and how it connected. But you
don't really know. I dare say you probably have no idea what a database
actually is either. I do, from the Ashton Tate days to today's
applications. Many of my Ashton Tate programs are still in use, as a
matter of fact. It's like DOS in that it doesn't die, it just keeps on
going.
Unlike you, I have experience and research behind me. All you have
are the assumptions you make based on someone else's words you find
convenient and nothing of your own. You just flat out do not know
anything of this subject or you would use that knowledge in these so
called posts of your. All you know is what someone you chose to believe
has told you because it fits neatly with your "feelings", and facts be
damned.
 
D

David H. Lipman

| I'm sorry, David; I don't keep close track of these things. Which URL
| are you interested in?

| Regards,

| Twayne


Earlier in this thread you had eluded to a Microsoft URL indicatining about a Registry
cleaner. You were asked to provide it but did not indicating that one can do there own
search and find.

I am asking you to provide it... plaese.
 
D

Dave Willcox

Gerry,

Microsoft's "Registry Cleaner" also acts as a spyware by calling home and
sending information like this:

MpCmdRun: Command Line: "C:\Program Files\OneCare\MpCmdRun.exe"
-VerifyOSGenuine -RestrictPrivileges
Start Time: Tue Oct 28 2008 20:14:38

VerifyOSGenuine returned 0
MpCmdRun: End Time: Tue Oct 28 2008 20:14:40

It also creates and sends to Microsoft HQ .dat files (dot dat) which I
can't read! So unless one has the facility to read .dat files, one should
avoid it at any cost especially if one is developing highly classified
applications for the secret service or any other governmental
departments. Some universities are contracted to provide such "RESEARCH"
facilities in return for funding!

Perhaps the information transmitted may not be sensitive but why create a
binary .dat file which no one can't read?

hth
 
D

Dave Willcox

Gerry,

Microsoft's "Registry Cleaner" also acts as a spyware by calling home
and sending information like this:

MpCmdRun: Command Line: "C:\Program Files\OneCare\MpCmdRun.exe"
-VerifyOSGenuine -RestrictPrivileges
Start Time: Tue Oct 28 2008 20:14:38

VerifyOSGenuine returned 0
MpCmdRun: End Time: Tue Oct 28 2008 20:14:40

It also creates and sends to Microsoft HQ .dat files (dot dat) which I
can't read! So unless one has the facility to read .dat files, one
should avoid it at any cost especially if one is developing highly
classified applications for the secret service or any other governmental
departments. Some universities are contracted to provide such
"RESEARCH" facilities in return for funding!

Perhaps the information transmitted may not be sensitive but why create
a binary .dat file which no one can't read?

hth
 
M

Monitor

David H. Lipman said:
| I'm sorry, David; I don't keep close track of these things. Which URL
| are you interested in?

| Regards,

| Twayne


Earlier in this thread you had eluded to a Microsoft URL indicatining about a Registry
cleaner. You were asked to provide it but did not indicating that one can do there own
search and find.

I am asking you to provide it... plaese.

A couple of interesting lines in your reply . . .
- indicatining?
- To elude = to escape, either physically or mentally
- To allude = to refer to something indirectly or by suggestion
- One can do "there" own search
- plaese?
Maybe a language cleaner is what's required here!
 
D

David H. Lipman

From: "Monitor" <[email protected]>



| A couple of interesting lines in your reply . . .
| - indicatining?
| - To elude = to escape, either physically or mentally
| - To allude = to refer to something indirectly or by suggestion
| - One can do "there" own search
| - plaese?
| Maybe a language cleaner is what's required here!



The older I get, the worse I spell.

It is most embarrassing :(
 

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