Registry Cleaners / Checkers / Fixers /File Cleaners etc.

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Pete Carr

I have tried a few Registry Cleaners with unused files and temp files
features to clean my Reg and computer. I have have had good and bad
experiences with them. I currently have CCleaner and RegCure which seem like
pretty good ones but I have just done a complete re-install of XP Pro and all
of my programs amd all MS updates. I have installed and un-installed some
programs etc. When I run either CCleaner or RegCure it shows many errors. (a
lot from programs I have un-installed and some from programs and system
programs that are installed. I have decided to not let the Reg cleaners fix
them for now because I'm afraid they will get rid of a Reg settings or files
that should not be done thus making computer setup actually worse etc... Has
anyone used either one of these programs and trust them really well? Also is
there a "best" Reg/file cleaner out there that is known by many people to be
the best and work great without doing things to the computer that they should
not do etc? Thanks a million people.
Pete Carr
www.playthatguitar.com
Fifth Wave Media Inc.
 
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Peter Foldes

All Reg Cleaners are snake oil remedies. You do NOT need to clean the registry as it will do nothing in speeding up performance. Leave the reg alone. Removing the wrong key can cause dire issues you have probably found out in the past.

There is no safe reg cleaner aside from knowledge of oneself of the registry
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

Pete Carr said:
I have tried a few Registry Cleaners with unused files and temp files
features to clean my Reg and computer. I have have had good and bad
experiences with them. I currently have CCleaner and RegCure which seem
like
pretty good ones but I have just done a complete re-install of XP Pro and
all
of my programs amd all MS updates. I have installed and un-installed some
programs etc. When I run either CCleaner or RegCure it shows many errors.
(a
lot from programs I have un-installed and some from programs and system
programs that are installed. I have decided to not let the Reg cleaners
fix
them for now because I'm afraid they will get rid of a Reg settings or
files
that should not be done thus making computer setup actually worse etc...
Has
anyone used either one of these programs and trust them really well? Also
is
there a "best" Reg/file cleaner out there that is known by many people to
be
the best and work great without doing things to the computer that they
should
not do etc? Thanks a million people.
Pete Carr
www.playthatguitar.com
Fifth Wave Media Inc.

Here we go again. The topic of registry cleaners pops up at regular
intervals, with the same results:
- Most registry cleaners claim to find lots of things to fix. What
they don't say is that their "fixes" have no effect whatsoever on
the performance of your PC.
- Some of these "fixes" can permanently cripple your PC.
- No registry cleaner seller has ever included a tool that allows
the user to quantify the benefits derived from cleaning his
registry. It's like certain engine oil additives: Having them
gives you a warm feeling inside but it makes no difference.

Buy one if you must but don't use your stopwatch when
checking your PC's speed. You'd be disappointed.
 
P

Pete Carr

Thanks for all of your answers. That helped me with my suspicions about reg
cleaners.... Again thanks a milllion guys. That was ALOT of info and I
will not use RegCure ever again now that I have a new computer installl.

Pete Carr
 
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HeyBub

Pete said:
Thanks for all of your answers. That helped me with my suspicions
about reg cleaners.... Again thanks a milllion guys. That was ALOT
of info and I will not use RegCure ever again now that I have a new
computer installl.

The best registry cleaner is no registry cleaner.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Pete said:
I have tried a few Registry Cleaners with unused files and temp files
features to clean my Reg and computer. I have have had good and bad
experiences with them. I currently have CCleaner and RegCure which seem like
pretty good ones but I have just done a complete re-install of XP Pro and all
of my programs amd all MS updates. I have installed and un-installed some
programs etc. When I run either CCleaner or RegCure it shows many errors. (a
lot from programs I have un-installed and some from programs and system
programs that are installed. I have decided to not let the Reg cleaners fix
them for now because I'm afraid they will get rid of a Reg settings or files
that should not be done thus making computer setup actually worse etc... Has
anyone used either one of these programs and trust them really well? Also is
there a "best" Reg/file cleaner out there that is known by many people to be
the best and work great without doing things to the computer that they should
not do etc? Thanks a million people.
Pete Carr
www.playthatguitar.com
Fifth Wave Media Inc.


A registry "cleaner" - even a completely safe one, should such ever
be developed - is, at best, an exercise infutility. There is no need
for registry "cleaners," other than to provide a profit to their
manufacturers. On rare occasions, registry scanners can be, in the
hands of a skilled technician, useful, time-saving diagnostic tools.
Otherwise, they're nothing but snake oil.

Why do you even think you'd ever need to clean your registry? What
specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some program's
bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be fixed by
using a registry "cleaner?"

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
wide-spread multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to
safely clean your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
each and every change.

Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry "cleaner,"
no matter how safe they claim to be.

More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained,
inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's
certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use
of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's
performance or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not
worth the risk.

Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
non-existent benefits.

I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
registry "cleaners" that are truly safe for the general public to use.
Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
in the hands of the inexperienced user.

CCleaner's registry scanner seems relatively benign, as long as you
step through each detected "issue" one at a time, to determine if it
really is an "issue" or not, and then decide whether or not to let the
application "fix" it. In my testing, though, most of the reported
"issues" won't be issues, at all. I tried the latest version on a
brand-new OS installation with no additional applications installed, and
certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and CCleaner still
managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned registry entries and
dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files, making it clearly a worthless
product, in this regard.

CCleaner's only real strength, and the only reason I use it, lies
in its usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard
drive; as a registry "cleaner," it's not significantly better or worse
than any other snake oil product of the same type.



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Ken Blake, MVP

I have tried a few Registry Cleaners with unused files and temp files
features to clean my Reg and computer. I have have had good and bad
experiences with them. I currently have CCleaner and RegCure which seem like
pretty good ones but I have just done a complete re-install of XP Pro and all
of my programs amd all MS updates. I have installed and un-installed some
programs etc. When I run either CCleaner or RegCure it shows many errors.


No, they show what they think are orphaned (unneeded) registry
entries. These are *not* errors and hardly ever represent any sort of
a problem.

(a
lot from programs I have un-installed and some from programs and system
programs that are installed. I have decided to not let the Reg cleaners fix
them for now because I'm afraid they will get rid of a Reg settings or files
that should not be done thus making computer setup actually worse etc...


Good thinking! All
registry cleaners are scams at best. At worst, they can completely
hose your system.

I strongly suggest you avoid using any registry cleaning program. They
are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is
dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry
cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of registry
cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused registry
entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.

Has
anyone used either one of these programs


Many people have used registry cleaners...

and trust them really well?


....and many of those people have used them without experiencing any
problems as a result. In fact, it's probably true that *most* uses of
registry cleaners don't result in problems. However the risk is
*always* there. That risk, coupled with the fact that registry
cleaners don't do anything useful, make them a bad bargain, even if
free.

Also is
there a "best" Reg/file cleaner out there that is known by many people to be
the best


The best registry cleaner is *no* registry cleaner.

By the way, CCleaner isn't a bad program at doing the other things it
does. Just avoid cleaning the registry with it.



and work great without doing things to the computer that they should
 
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kernel77

I agree, CCleaner has performed admirably in my PC and all of those that
required a service call. The junk that WinXP piles up is hard to comprehend
until you run that program. People are amazed at the junk they have
accumulated...the typical response is "oh I run disk cleanup" so there can't
be much in there. Ha. I surely hope Vista cleans up after itself a lot
better than XP does. XP is similar to planned obsolescence...it will expire
in due course if you don't know how to maintain it.
 

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