Prefetch question

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"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote

<snip>

"in all practicality, clearing out
the prefetch file on a regular
basis is beneficial for a variety
of reasons and outweighs the
myths being disseminated as
facts..."

You have not provided one piece of factual information to show that it's
beneficial.

"it's time to move on but as always
i look forward to your insights..."

Yes you should move on because as usual, and as others have pointed out, you
can't support what you say so you have to move on.
 
"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
"honestly, I have asked Microsoft
executives to stop throwing out
MVP titles to unqualified persons.

by not having a better criterion for
selecting persons to represent the
MVP Program, there is always an
opportunity to cheapen the program.

and though poor performing MVP's
can embarrass the other MVP's
who have integrity and an earnest
commitment to help others without
prejudice, the better MVP's can be blamed
for not guiding those MVP's who suffer
from not-it-all-ism and unprofessionalism -
contradictory to MVProfessional.

consider this matter closed and
shame on your for perpetuating myths
and wasting my valuable time.

it won't happen again...."
____________________

Ah yes, and so you do what you have always done, when you post gibberish and
drivel that you can't support - make wild, unsupported claims, insult and
run. If there was any substance to what you post, it would stand for
itself.

Because someone challenges you that means they have a problem? You've seen
the other posts in this thread, and in other threads, where you are called
on your garbage by many different people? Doesn't that send any kind of
message to you?

Go ahead, run away, that's your style. (By the way your conversations with
whomever at MS hasn't gotten your desired effect, have they?)

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

<snip>

" Seemingly it
appears that you have adopted
someone else's myths and are perpetuating
them in a formal style of writing in
an informal forum."

Lol, this is gibberish. As normal you can't even answer two simple
questions.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]


...
"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
I don't find any validity with the
"windows will manage it"
and
"only believe what i say because
everyone else are providing myths"
responses.

Microsoft.com has not issued a
"mandate" not to delete the
prefetch files.

Further if they were deleted, then
Windows was designed to rebuild
them and "rebuild only the ones that
are needed".

So if the prefetch files are cleaned
out / deleted monthly there is are
no consequence to the affect.

Conversely it is due to the deletion
of prefetch files on a regular basis
that additional trash files are removed
from the disk
and
newly rebuilt prefetch files ensures
none are corrupted, infected and
are "up to date" with the file system.

This is no myth!

- db


"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
unfortunately, i disagree.

either you delete them or
you keep them.

basically, the criterian for
deleting them is if they
corrupted, orphaned or unused.

if the orphaned and unused
files are retained, then they
can be classified as clutter and
or trash files.

if the corrupted files are retained
then the performance will degrade.

one might ask "which files are corrupted
as there is no indication as such?"

the answer is to "simply delete
all of them and windows will rebuild
"only" the ones for the programs
you actually "run" ...


Ken A said:
I was told that it is a good idea to delete the Prefetch Folder at least
once a month. This is suppose to make the computer perform better. Any
comments of this would be greatly appreciated.

This is an urban myth that has no value under normal circumstances.
Deleting the contents of the prefetch folder will not improve
computer
performance. In fact it will reduce it, until the prefetch folder
is
rebuilt over several days as programs are run.

There might be a situation where there is a problem and deleting the
prefetch folder contents might be done for troubleshooting reasons,
but
otherwise don't do so under normal circumstances.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

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Disagree with what? I said if there are no issues or problem, then
don't
bother with deleting the contents of prefetch folder. That won't
improve
performance. This is been demonstrated objectively by several
sources.
If
you suspect a problem and corruption then fine, but not for routine
maintenance. So what is it you are advocating? Routinely deleting
the
contents of prefetch?

By the way I found it humorous when you asked Carey for clarification.
Your
standard response in the past when asked for clarification on some of
the
drivel you've posted has been to tell the person to research it for
themselves, it isn't your job to do their work for them. Or you just
don't
respond. Maybe you should get your own "house in order" so to speak?

While we are at it, I will ask again, why is it that the line lengths
in
your posts are at most half of the normal line length? You've been
asked
same question by many folks but you have never replied. Why is that?

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

________________

You haven't answered my questions.

1. So you are advocating regular deletion of the files in the prefetch
folder even though it has been objectively shown that doing so decreases
performance, and provides no discernible benefit?

2. Why do you post with reduced line lengths?
 
"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
"in all practicality, clearing out
the prefetch file on a regular
basis is beneficial for a variety
of reasons and outweighs the
myths being disseminated as
facts..."

____________________

Provide some objective information that substantiates the contention that,
barring a specific problem, routine clearing of the prefetch folder is
beneficial. You can't, can you?

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]


I was told that it is a good idea to delete the Prefetch Folder at least
once a month. This is suppose to make the computer perform better. Any
comments of this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Ken A.
 
as have been pointed out numerous time, but you are so concerned on believing myths you cannot see the truth.
prefetch does not auto remove expired entries.
prefetch does not remove items when the program is uninstalled.
during boot up this causes the system to chase its tail looking the the items in prefetch folder.


just those 2 are enough to warrant deleting the contents on a regular basis.

if you have never seen/experienced the problem then you have nothing to stand on to lecture.



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"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
"in all practicality, clearing out
the prefetch file on a regular
basis is beneficial for a variety
of reasons and outweighs the
myths being disseminated as
facts..."

____________________

Provide some objective information that substantiates the contention that,
barring a specific problem, routine clearing of the prefetch folder is
beneficial. You can't, can you?

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]


I was told that it is a good idea to delete the Prefetch Folder at least
once a month. This is suppose to make the computer perform better. Any
comments of this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Ken A.
 
i beg your pardon, are you
in a position to know what
we have discussed?


I guess you haven't noticed that everyone here is in a position to know what you've discussed. Get over yourself. Do you think this is a private little display case for your arrogant drivel?
 
I've been actually deleting my prefetch folder a few, if not more, times a
week. I had a feeling I might be doing something wrong, but it's been running
soooo smoothly since I've been doing it and it's a brand-new computer and I
was just mainly looking for an easy way for upkeep, and until now I ran into
no problems.

(Someone was working on my computer through taking control over it from
another computer online) and I could see what they were doing and I asked if
that was safe and he said yes and that whatever files needed to be there will
restore themselves.

But now I'm trying to upload my entire cd collection onto windows media
player 11 on my windows vista and after using it for a few days and then
erasing my prefetch for like the third time this week. The windows media
player doesn't come up when I try opening it. It asks if I want it to check
for a solution and close and I say yes, and nothing.... and when I look at
where the windows media player is installed it has a "prefetch" file location.

I'm assuming after reading through some of these posts that it will
eventually restore itself. But now I really want to know exactly what I'm
doing to my computer when I erase the prefetch files? Could I atleast do it
every couple of weeks or once a month without hurting my computer too much?
Please help,
~Lisa
 
The issue with purging the contents of the \Prefetch folder is that when
ProcessIdleTasks runs it may not recreate the Layout.ini file. Because
of this your system will not benefit from prefetching.

You'd be better served doing other maintenance items instead of this
"Urban Legend" stuff.
 
a prefetch is a new tool
that acts like a quick road
map to the locations of the files
for launching a program.

without a prefetch, then
the system will look for
the files the old fashion way.

also, the prefetch system
is included in the start up
process when windows loads.

although the prefetch system
can be beneficial, it is for the
benefit of the user and not for
windows. therefore, the prefetch
system can be turned off if you
desired.

further, there are certain instances
that the prefetch can actually
impeded the systems performance.

that is why flushing out the
prefetch files on occasion is
not a detriment but a benefit.
 
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