Prefetch question

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db said:
n..e..v..e..r...!

there are dragons and
myths to slay here!

(jousting can be fun too)

but when you're the ONLY mofo who is posting messages with a line wrap
of maybe 30... then reading your replies is NOT fun.

If you can't correct it, you're a moron.
 
1) The facts soundly support my position
and the benefits.

2) However I don't believe you have provided
anything tangible that outweighs the
benefits I've described. Seemingly it
appears that you have adopted
someone else's myths and are perpetuating
them in a formal style of writing in
an informal forum.

- db

"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
I don't find any validity with the
"windows will manage it"
and
"only believe what i say because
everyone else are providing myths"
responses.

Microsoft.com has not issued a
"mandate" not to delete the
prefetch files.

Further if they were deleted, then
Windows was designed to rebuild
them and "rebuild only the ones that
are needed".

So if the prefetch files are cleaned
out / deleted monthly there is are
no consequence to the affect.

Conversely it is due to the deletion
of prefetch files on a regular basis
that additional trash files are removed
from the disk
and
newly rebuilt prefetch files ensures
none are corrupted, infected and
are "up to date" with the file system.

This is no myth!

- db


"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
unfortunately, i disagree.

either you delete them or
you keep them.

basically, the criterian for
deleting them is if they
corrupted, orphaned or unused.

if the orphaned and unused
files are retained, then they
can be classified as clutter and
or trash files.

if the corrupted files are retained
then the performance will degrade.

one might ask "which files are corrupted
as there is no indication as such?"

the answer is to "simply delete
all of them and windows will rebuild
"only" the ones for the programs
you actually "run" ...


Ken A said:
I was told that it is a good idea to delete the Prefetch Folder at least
once a month. This is suppose to make the computer perform better. Any
comments of this would be greatly appreciated.

This is an urban myth that has no value under normal circumstances.
Deleting the contents of the prefetch folder will not improve computer
performance. In fact it will reduce it, until the prefetch folder is
rebuilt over several days as programs are run.

There might be a situation where there is a problem and deleting the
prefetch folder contents might be done for troubleshooting reasons, but
otherwise don't do so under normal circumstances.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

___________

Disagree with what? I said if there are no issues or problem, then don't
bother with deleting the contents of prefetch folder. That won't improve
performance. This is been demonstrated objectively by several sources.
If
you suspect a problem and corruption then fine, but not for routine
maintenance. So what is it you are advocating? Routinely deleting the
contents of prefetch?

By the way I found it humorous when you asked Carey for clarification.
Your
standard response in the past when asked for clarification on some of the
drivel you've posted has been to tell the person to research it for
themselves, it isn't your job to do their work for them. Or you just
don't
respond. Maybe you should get your own "house in order" so to speak?

While we are at it, I will ask again, why is it that the line lengths in
your posts are at most half of the normal line length? You've been asked
same question by many folks but you have never replied. Why is that?

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

________________

You haven't answered my questions.

1. So you are advocating regular deletion of the files in the prefetch
folder even though it has been objectively shown that doing so decreases
performance, and provides no discernible benefit?

2. Why do you post with reduced line lengths?
 
mofo?

db said:
n..e..v..e..r...!

there are dragons and
myths to slay here!

(jousting can be fun too)

but when you're the ONLY mofo who is posting messages with a line wrap
of maybe 30... then reading your replies is NOT fun.

If you can't correct it, you're a moron.
 
"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

<snip>

" Seemingly it
appears that you have adopted
someone else's myths and are perpetuating
them in a formal style of writing in
an informal forum."

Lol, this is gibberish. As normal you can't even answer two simple
questions.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]


....
"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
I don't find any validity with the
"windows will manage it"
and
"only believe what i say because
everyone else are providing myths"
responses.

Microsoft.com has not issued a
"mandate" not to delete the
prefetch files.

Further if they were deleted, then
Windows was designed to rebuild
them and "rebuild only the ones that
are needed".

So if the prefetch files are cleaned
out / deleted monthly there is are
no consequence to the affect.

Conversely it is due to the deletion
of prefetch files on a regular basis
that additional trash files are removed
from the disk
and
newly rebuilt prefetch files ensures
none are corrupted, infected and
are "up to date" with the file system.

This is no myth!

- db


"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
unfortunately, i disagree.

either you delete them or
you keep them.

basically, the criterian for
deleting them is if they
corrupted, orphaned or unused.

if the orphaned and unused
files are retained, then they
can be classified as clutter and
or trash files.

if the corrupted files are retained
then the performance will degrade.

one might ask "which files are corrupted
as there is no indication as such?"

the answer is to "simply delete
all of them and windows will rebuild
"only" the ones for the programs
you actually "run" ...


Ken A said:
I was told that it is a good idea to delete the Prefetch Folder at least
once a month. This is suppose to make the computer perform better. Any
comments of this would be greatly appreciated.

This is an urban myth that has no value under normal circumstances.
Deleting the contents of the prefetch folder will not improve computer
performance. In fact it will reduce it, until the prefetch folder is
rebuilt over several days as programs are run.

There might be a situation where there is a problem and deleting the
prefetch folder contents might be done for troubleshooting reasons,
but
otherwise don't do so under normal circumstances.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

___________

Disagree with what? I said if there are no issues or problem, then
don't
bother with deleting the contents of prefetch folder. That won't
improve
performance. This is been demonstrated objectively by several sources.
If
you suspect a problem and corruption then fine, but not for routine
maintenance. So what is it you are advocating? Routinely deleting the
contents of prefetch?

By the way I found it humorous when you asked Carey for clarification.
Your
standard response in the past when asked for clarification on some of
the
drivel you've posted has been to tell the person to research it for
themselves, it isn't your job to do their work for them. Or you just
don't
respond. Maybe you should get your own "house in order" so to speak?

While we are at it, I will ask again, why is it that the line lengths in
your posts are at most half of the normal line length? You've been
asked
same question by many folks but you have never replied. Why is that?

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

________________

You haven't answered my questions.

1. So you are advocating regular deletion of the files in the prefetch
folder even though it has been objectively shown that doing so decreases
performance, and provides no discernible benefit?

2. Why do you post with reduced line lengths?
 
unfortunately, the words you
use are a reflection and in a class
far far below .

you never have anything worthy
to contribute but always have
lots of sludge to sling around.

such a pathetic individual that you
enjoy to be, that i will enjoy the option to never see another response from you.

you need to stay under that little bridge
that you live under and guard..


db said:

<PLONK>
 
honestly, I have asked Microsoft
executives to stop throwing out
MVP titles to unqualified persons.

by not having a better criterion for
selecting persons to represent the
MVP Program, there is always an
opportunity to cheapen the program.

and though poor performing MVP's
can embarrass the other MVP's
who have integrity and an earnest
commitment to help others without
prejudice, the better MVP's can be blamed
for not guiding those MVP's who suffer
from not-it-all-ism and unprofessionalism -
contradictory to MVProfessional.

consider this matter closed and
shame on your for perpetuating myths
and wasting my valuable time.

it won't happen again....

"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

<snip>

" Seemingly it
appears that you have adopted
someone else's myths and are perpetuating
them in a formal style of writing in
an informal forum."

Lol, this is gibberish. As normal you can't even answer two simple
questions.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]


...
"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
I don't find any validity with the
"windows will manage it"
and
"only believe what i say because
everyone else are providing myths"
responses.

Microsoft.com has not issued a
"mandate" not to delete the
prefetch files.

Further if they were deleted, then
Windows was designed to rebuild
them and "rebuild only the ones that
are needed".

So if the prefetch files are cleaned
out / deleted monthly there is are
no consequence to the affect.

Conversely it is due to the deletion
of prefetch files on a regular basis
that additional trash files are removed
from the disk
and
newly rebuilt prefetch files ensures
none are corrupted, infected and
are "up to date" with the file system.

This is no myth!

- db


"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
unfortunately, i disagree.

either you delete them or
you keep them.

basically, the criterian for
deleting them is if they
corrupted, orphaned or unused.

if the orphaned and unused
files are retained, then they
can be classified as clutter and
or trash files.

if the corrupted files are retained
then the performance will degrade.

one might ask "which files are corrupted
as there is no indication as such?"

the answer is to "simply delete
all of them and windows will rebuild
"only" the ones for the programs
you actually "run" ...


Ken A said:
I was told that it is a good idea to delete the Prefetch Folder at least
once a month. This is suppose to make the computer perform better. Any
comments of this would be greatly appreciated.

This is an urban myth that has no value under normal circumstances.
Deleting the contents of the prefetch folder will not improve computer
performance. In fact it will reduce it, until the prefetch folder is
rebuilt over several days as programs are run.

There might be a situation where there is a problem and deleting the
prefetch folder contents might be done for troubleshooting reasons,
but
otherwise don't do so under normal circumstances.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

___________

Disagree with what? I said if there are no issues or problem, then
don't
bother with deleting the contents of prefetch folder. That won't
improve
performance. This is been demonstrated objectively by several sources.
If
you suspect a problem and corruption then fine, but not for routine
maintenance. So what is it you are advocating? Routinely deleting the
contents of prefetch?

By the way I found it humorous when you asked Carey for clarification.
Your
standard response in the past when asked for clarification on some of
the
drivel you've posted has been to tell the person to research it for
themselves, it isn't your job to do their work for them. Or you just
don't
respond. Maybe you should get your own "house in order" so to speak?

While we are at it, I will ask again, why is it that the line lengths in
your posts are at most half of the normal line length? You've been
asked
same question by many folks but you have never replied. Why is that?

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

________________

You haven't answered my questions.

1. So you are advocating regular deletion of the files in the prefetch
folder even though it has been objectively shown that doing so decreases
performance, and provides no discernible benefit?

2. Why do you post with reduced line lengths?
 
Honestly, you really think that
being an MVP for 12 months
at a time qualifies you to
dish out insults?

I have asked Microsoft
executives to stop throwing out
MVP titles to unqualified persons.

But for whatever reason, maybe quota
or finding free customer service
representatives, they give out MVP
titles like a drive thru at a hamburger
joint.

Until you have something as- smart
to contribute to the subject-at-hand
dont appear to be a smart-as*, it would
be best not to respond at all.

consider this matter closed for
your lack of facts and experience.

- db
"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

<snip>

" Seemingly it
appears that you have adopted
someone else's myths and are perpetuating
them in a formal style of writing in
an informal forum."

Lol, this is gibberish. As normal you can't even answer two simple
questions.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]


...
"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
I don't find any validity with the
"windows will manage it"
and
"only believe what i say because
everyone else are providing myths"
responses.

Microsoft.com has not issued a
"mandate" not to delete the
prefetch files.

Further if they were deleted, then
Windows was designed to rebuild
them and "rebuild only the ones that
are needed".

So if the prefetch files are cleaned
out / deleted monthly there is are
no consequence to the affect.

Conversely it is due to the deletion
of prefetch files on a regular basis
that additional trash files are removed
from the disk
and
newly rebuilt prefetch files ensures
none are corrupted, infected and
are "up to date" with the file system.

This is no myth!

- db


"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
unfortunately, i disagree.

either you delete them or
you keep them.

basically, the criterian for
deleting them is if they
corrupted, orphaned or unused.

if the orphaned and unused
files are retained, then they
can be classified as clutter and
or trash files.

if the corrupted files are retained
then the performance will degrade.

one might ask "which files are corrupted
as there is no indication as such?"

the answer is to "simply delete
all of them and windows will rebuild
"only" the ones for the programs
you actually "run" ...


Ken A said:
I was told that it is a good idea to delete the Prefetch Folder at least
once a month. This is suppose to make the computer perform better. Any
comments of this would be greatly appreciated.

This is an urban myth that has no value under normal circumstances.
Deleting the contents of the prefetch folder will not improve computer
performance. In fact it will reduce it, until the prefetch folder is
rebuilt over several days as programs are run.

There might be a situation where there is a problem and deleting the
prefetch folder contents might be done for troubleshooting reasons,
but
otherwise don't do so under normal circumstances.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

___________

Disagree with what? I said if there are no issues or problem, then
don't
bother with deleting the contents of prefetch folder. That won't
improve
performance. This is been demonstrated objectively by several sources.
If
you suspect a problem and corruption then fine, but not for routine
maintenance. So what is it you are advocating? Routinely deleting the
contents of prefetch?

By the way I found it humorous when you asked Carey for clarification.
Your
standard response in the past when asked for clarification on some of
the
drivel you've posted has been to tell the person to research it for
themselves, it isn't your job to do their work for them. Or you just
don't
respond. Maybe you should get your own "house in order" so to speak?

While we are at it, I will ask again, why is it that the line lengths in
your posts are at most half of the normal line length? You've been
asked
same question by many folks but you have never replied. Why is that?

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

________________

You haven't answered my questions.

1. So you are advocating regular deletion of the files in the prefetch
folder even though it has been objectively shown that doing so decreases
performance, and provides no discernible benefit?

2. Why do you post with reduced line lengths?
 
Honestly, you really think that
being an MVP for 12 months
at a time qualifies you to
dish out insults?

I have asked Microsoft
executives to stop throwing out
MVP titles to unqualified persons.

But for whatever reason, maybe quota
or finding free customer service
representatives, they give out MVP
titles like a drive thru at a hamburger
joint.

Until you have something as- smart
to contribute to the subject-at-hand
dont appear to be a smart-as*, it would
be best not to respond at all.

consider this matter closed for
your lack of facts and experience.

- db
"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message

<snip>

" Seemingly it
appears that you have adopted
someone else's myths and are perpetuating
them in a formal style of writing in
an informal forum."

Lol, this is gibberish. As normal you can't even answer two simple
questions.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]


...
"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
I don't find any validity with the
"windows will manage it"
and
"only believe what i say because
everyone else are providing myths"
responses.

Microsoft.com has not issued a
"mandate" not to delete the
prefetch files.

Further if they were deleted, then
Windows was designed to rebuild
them and "rebuild only the ones that
are needed".

So if the prefetch files are cleaned
out / deleted monthly there is are
no consequence to the affect.

Conversely it is due to the deletion
of prefetch files on a regular basis
that additional trash files are removed
from the disk
and
newly rebuilt prefetch files ensures
none are corrupted, infected and
are "up to date" with the file system.

This is no myth!

- db


"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
unfortunately, i disagree.

either you delete them or
you keep them.

basically, the criterian for
deleting them is if they
corrupted, orphaned or unused.

if the orphaned and unused
files are retained, then they
can be classified as clutter and
or trash files.

if the corrupted files are retained
then the performance will degrade.

one might ask "which files are corrupted
as there is no indication as such?"

the answer is to "simply delete
all of them and windows will rebuild
"only" the ones for the programs
you actually "run" ...


Ken A said:
I was told that it is a good idea to delete the Prefetch Folder at least
once a month. This is suppose to make the computer perform better. Any
comments of this would be greatly appreciated.

This is an urban myth that has no value under normal circumstances.
Deleting the contents of the prefetch folder will not improve computer
performance. In fact it will reduce it, until the prefetch folder is
rebuilt over several days as programs are run.

There might be a situation where there is a problem and deleting the
prefetch folder contents might be done for troubleshooting reasons,
but
otherwise don't do so under normal circumstances.

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

___________

Disagree with what? I said if there are no issues or problem, then
don't
bother with deleting the contents of prefetch folder. That won't
improve
performance. This is been demonstrated objectively by several sources.
If
you suspect a problem and corruption then fine, but not for routine
maintenance. So what is it you are advocating? Routinely deleting the
contents of prefetch?

By the way I found it humorous when you asked Carey for clarification.
Your
standard response in the past when asked for clarification on some of
the
drivel you've posted has been to tell the person to research it for
themselves, it isn't your job to do their work for them. Or you just
don't
respond. Maybe you should get your own "house in order" so to speak?

While we are at it, I will ask again, why is it that the line lengths in
your posts are at most half of the normal line length? You've been
asked
same question by many folks but you have never replied. Why is that?

--
Rock [MS-MVP User/Shell]

________________

You haven't answered my questions.

1. So you are advocating regular deletion of the files in the prefetch
folder even though it has been objectively shown that doing so decreases
performance, and provides no discernible benefit?

2. Why do you post with reduced line lengths?
 
i read similar information from
non microsoft sites by self proclaimed
microsoft experts.

but i could not find anything at microsoft.com to substantiate
the info.

the 128 number appears to be a
reference to megabytes and not
files...



http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000024.html

IIRC the system discards anything in excess of 128 entries.
 
Why are you picking on Uncle Grumpy? Why are your line lengths so short? Why are you posting in HTML? Why are you ALWAYS right? (Ya right!) Most people leave the damned Prefetch folder alone. It doesn't HURT to delete it as it rebuilds BUT it is a total waste of time and effort in most cases.

Were you born retarded or did you take a course?
--
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

-
Doug W.
-

"db" <databaseben.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message unfortunately, the words you
use are a reflection and in a class
far far below .

you never have anything worthy
to contribute but always have
lots of sludge to sling around.

such a pathetic individual that you
enjoy to be, that i will enjoy the option to never see another response from you.

you need to stay under that little bridge
that you live under and guard..


db said:

<PLONK>
 
I have asked Microsoft
executives to stop throwing out
MVP titles to unqualified persons.

Funny they haven't jumped right up and taken care of your request. I'm sure it's just a slip up on their part, probably in not realizing how important you are.
 
i beg your pardon, are you
in a position to know what
we have discussed?

in any case, I have always received
courteous and professional responses
from the folks at Microsoft, eg Microsoft
Professionals / Employees.

on the one point you made, i do agree
that it does seem funny at times. but
unfortunately, some forget or simply
do not understand that it is the public / customers
who they serve and not themselves..

thanks for your interest and
observations.....

- db
I have asked Microsoft
executives to stop throwing out
MVP titles to unqualified persons.

Funny they haven't jumped right up and taken care of your request. I'm sure it's just a slip up on their part, probably in not realizing how important you are.
 
thanks for the suggestion and
some of your feedback.

however, based on microsoft's
information, i don't think it is
necessary...

in all practicality, clearing out
the prefetch file on a regular
basis is beneficial for a variety
of reasons and outweighs the
myths being disseminated as
facts...

it's time to move on but as always
i look forward to your insights...

- db



So fire off 130 different programs and prove it is incorrect.
 
in all practicality, clearing out
the prefetch file on a regular
basis is beneficial for a variety
of reasons and outweighs the
myths being disseminated as
facts...

- db
I was told that it is a good idea to delete the Prefetch Folder at least
once a month. This is suppose to make the computer perform better. Any
comments of this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Ken A.
 
You always move on when you get called .... and can support your
statements.

it's time to move on but as always
i look forward to your insights...

- db



So fire off 130 different programs and prove it is incorrect.
 
should be ...and *can't* support your statements.

| You always move on when you get called .... and can support your
| statements.
|
| it's time to move on but as always
| i look forward to your insights...
|
| - db
|
|
|
| | So fire off 130 different programs and prove it is incorrect.
|
| db wrote:
|
| > i read similar information from
| > non microsoft sites by self proclaimed
| > microsoft experts.
| >
| > but i could not find anything at microsoft.com to substantiate
| > the info.
| >
| > the 128 number appears to be a
| > reference to megabytes and not
| > files...
| >
| >
| | >
| > http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000024.html
| >
| > IIRC the system discards anything in excess of 128 entries.
| >
| > db wrote:
| >
| > > hello carey,
| > >
| > > i found your response
| > > highly interesting and
| > > perplexing.
| > >
| > > could you kindly elaborate
| > > a bit more as to how
| > > and when this automatic
| > > process occurs....?
| > >
| > > tia
| | > > Windows XP does this automatically. There is no need to manually
| > > delete the contents of the prefetch folder.
| > >
| > > --
| > > Carey Frisch
| > > Microsoft MVP
| > > Windows Client
| > >
| >
|
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| > >
| > > "Ken A" wrote:
| > >
| > > | I was told that it is a good idea to delete the Prefetch Folder
| at least
| > > | once a month. This is suppose to make the computer perform
| better. Any
| > > | comments of this would be greatly appreciated.
| > > |
| > > | Thanks,
| > > | Ken A.
| > >
| >
|
|
 
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