Power options

[bobster]

This may be of use to you if you are having problems with power options in
XP.

Shortly after I upgraded to SP-3, I found that the power options for display
turn-off, standby, hard disk turnoff and hibernate would not stay set. I
would set them to the desired state but after a restart, they would not work
even though they still showed on the power options page. I googled the
problem and found many suggestions, none of which worked. Several blamed
SP-3 and said that MS knew about the problem but it was too trivial to be of
concern. I found that hard to believe. Finally, I stumbled upon a post by
kscozier on Microsoft TechNet who traced the problem to a Java update that
installed Java Quick Starter. I did this update about the same time I
installed SP-3 so it looked like this could be the cause of my problem
rather than SP-3. I disabled JQS using Java's recommendation,

http://www.java.com/en/download/help/quickstarter.xml

and like kscozier, my power options now work normally.

Another example that it is not always Microsoft's fault when problems with
one's computer happens.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Interesting.

Although I've disabled 'Java Quick Starter' Service since it was introduced
in a recent Sun Java runtime update, having it enabled (i.e., start
automatically) did not cause such behavior in WinXP SP3 here. Of course,
YMMV.

Speaking of Sun Java runtimes, are you running v1.6.0_14 now and have you
removed all earlier versions? See
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=40890

Tip: Don't rely on the built-in auto-updater to take care of this in a
timely manner, if at all.

 

[bobster]

I just checked and I'm running v1.6.0_13. I was not notified of an update.
I'll uninstall previous versions and update. Thanks for the tip


Interesting.

Although I've disabled 'Java Quick Starter' Service since it was introduced
in a recent Sun Java runtime update, having it enabled (i.e., start
automatically) did not cause such behavior in WinXP SP3 here. Of course,
YMMV.

Speaking of Sun Java runtimes, are you running v1.6.0_14 now and have you
removed all earlier versions? See
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=40890

Tip: Don't rely on the built-in auto-updater to take care of this in a
timely manner, if at all.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Install v1.6.0_14, then uninstall v1.6.0_13 (if you find it's still
installed, which you prolly won't).

 

[bobster]

Bear,

JRE v1.6.0_14 successfully installed using your suggested
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=40890 process, faithfully followed.
Was a bit concerned when Sun's office suite was touted but no check box was
shown to opt in or out. It appears to be a "clean" download with no crappy
toolbars, etc.. The only toolbar I use with IE7 is Quero. Used it for over
a year. I love its simplicity and 2 line header with everything located
exactly where I want it. My big fear is that switching to IE8 and losing
"links" will screw up Quero. Gonna wait a while.

======================================================
Install v1.6.0_14, then uninstall v1.6.0_13 (if you find it's still
installed, which you prolly won't).

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Well, if you're tempted to install IE8, you'll wanna uninstall all
third-party toolbars beforehand, just in case.

My personal recommendations include:

=> Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!! =>
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/worldwide-sites.aspx

=> Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows Live)
and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8.

=> Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon) before
installing or uninstalling IE8.

=> I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application and any
anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than Defender's)
before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. If you're running a
third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling it and then enabling the
Windows Firewall before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade.

=> Create a Restore Point manually before installing IE8. [Do NOT use
System Restore to remove/uninstall IE8; instead, see
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957700. Then use the Restore Point prior to
reinstalling IE8 per these recommendations. Norton users will need to see
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/symantecdoc1.html.]

=> Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8.

=> For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your anti-virus
application, any anti-spyware applications (other than Defender), and your
third-party firewall (if any) are supported in IE8 Final before you decide
install it.

 

[bobster]

PABear,

Well, I was tempted so I downloaded IE8 this AM. I used your prep
instructions and have had absolutely no problems whatsoever. It seems to be
even faster than my IE7 which I thought was not possible. Whole Internet
pages load in 1-2 seconds. I avoided most of the frills that were offered
during the download and have only the Quero toolbar, Adobe shockwave flash,
and IEspell as enabled add-ons. So far I have only 2 minor complaints:

1) The combined address/navigation bar cannot be resized down and shared
with" links" (which doesn't exist in IE8) as it can be with the Quero/IE7
combination. This results in about 8" of typically unused and unneeded
white space in the address/nav bar. The new "favorites" bar supposedly
replaces the links bar but requires its own bar so I end up with three bars
rather than two across the top of my desktop.

2) The order of items in the new "favorites" bar cannot be easily changed by
unlocking the toolbars and dragging them to a new desired position as is the
case in Quero/IE7 combo..

These are relatively minor glitches that I can live with considering the
speed and security advantages of IE8.

Also, since my external eSATA drive is bootable, I left IE7 on my internal
"C" drive and can quickly boot to either one. Great for comparison and
recovery safety.

===========================================================

Well, if you're tempted to install IE8, you'll wanna uninstall all
third-party toolbars beforehand, just in case.

My personal recommendations include:

=> Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!! =>
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/worldwide-sites.aspx

=> Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows Live)
and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8.

=> Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon) before
installing or uninstalling IE8.

=> I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application and any
anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than Defender's)
before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. If you're running a
third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling it and then enabling the
Windows Firewall before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade.

=> Create a Restore Point manually before installing IE8. [Do NOT use
System Restore to remove/uninstall IE8; instead, see
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957700. Then use the Restore Point prior to
reinstalling IE8 per these recommendations. Norton users will need to see
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/symantecdoc1.html.]

=> Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8.

=> For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your anti-virus
application, any anti-spyware applications (other than Defender), and your
third-party firewall (if any) are supported in IE8 Final before you decide
install it.

 

[PA Bear [MS MVP]]

Thanks very much for your feedback.

Those with IE7- and/or IE8-specific questions or comments can post to and
seek support in IE General newsgroup:
microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general

On the web:
http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...?dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general

In your newsreader:
news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general

PABear,

Well, I was tempted so I downloaded IE8 this AM. I used your prep
instructions and have had absolutely no problems whatsoever. It seems to
be
even faster than my IE7 which I thought was not possible. Whole Internet
pages load in 1-2 seconds. I avoided most of the frills that were offered
during the download and have only the Quero toolbar, Adobe shockwave
flash,
and IEspell as enabled add-ons. So far I have only 2 minor complaints:

1) The combined address/navigation bar cannot be resized down and shared
with" links" (which doesn't exist in IE8) as it can be with the Quero/IE7
combination. This results in about 8" of typically unused and unneeded
white space in the address/nav bar. The new "favorites" bar supposedly
replaces the links bar but requires its own bar so I end up with three
bars
rather than two across the top of my desktop.

2) The order of items in the new "favorites" bar cannot be easily changed
by
unlocking the toolbars and dragging them to a new desired position as is
the
case in Quero/IE7 combo..

These are relatively minor glitches that I can live with considering the
speed and security advantages of IE8.

Also, since my external eSATA drive is bootable, I left IE7 on my internal
"C" drive and can quickly boot to either one. Great for comparison and
recovery safety.

===========================================================

Well, if you're tempted to install IE8, you'll wanna uninstall all
third-party toolbars beforehand, just in case.

My personal recommendations include:

=> Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!! =>
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/internet-explorer/worldwide-sites.aspx

=> Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows Live)
and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8.

=> Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon) before
installing or uninstalling IE8.

=> I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application and
any
anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than Defender's)
before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. If you're running a
third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling it and then enabling the
Windows Firewall before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade.

=> Create a Restore Point manually before installing IE8. [Do NOT use
System Restore to remove/uninstall IE8; instead, see
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/957700. Then use the Restore Point prior
to
reinstalling IE8 per these recommendations. Norton users will need to see
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/symantecdoc1.html.]

=> Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8.

=> For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your anti-virus
application, any anti-spyware applications (other than Defender), and your
third-party firewall (if any) are supported in IE8 Final before you decide
install it.

Bear,

JRE v1.6.0_14 successfully installed using your suggested
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=40890 process, faithfully followed.
Was a bit concerned when Sun's office suite was touted but no check box
was
shown to opt in or out. It appears to be a "clean" download with no
crappy
toolbars, etc.. The only toolbar I use with IE7 is Quero. Used it for
over
a year. I love its simplicity and 2 line header with everything located
exactly where I want it. My big fear is that switching to IE8 and losing
"links" will screw up Quero. Gonna wait a while.

======================================================
Install v1.6.0_14, then uninstall v1.6.0_13 (if you find it's still
installed, which you prolly won't).