Pondering ... who is Vista for?

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Chris

After using betas and RCs and playing with them quite a lot, I am still
wondering who will benefit from Vista.

Computer enthusiasts will possibly be better served by XP or Linux.
That is - people who know what they are doing.

People who do not know what they are doing will be better served by
Vista.

And, I suppose, that's 99% of the population.
So Vista is bound to be successful.

But would the kind of people who have heard of Usenet be benefited?
 
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Dale

I have benefited. Vista is perfect for my main PC because my children and
grandchildren use it as well. UAC and the new security features are
fantastic in this kind of scenario.

Vista will never be my media PC though. If I find myself with no other
option down the line, because of hardware updateable by simply playing a
DVD, etc., then I will simply not have a media PC; I'll buy a DVD player or
recorder at Wal-Mart for $79 and be done with it.


Dale
 
J

Jerry McBride

Chris said:
After using betas and RCs and playing with them quite a lot, I am still
wondering who will benefit from Vista.

Computer enthusiasts will possibly be better served by XP or Linux.
That is - people who know what they are doing.

People who do not know what they are doing will be better served by
Vista.

And, I suppose, that's 99% of the population.
So Vista is bound to be successful.

But would the kind of people who have heard of Usenet be benefited?

There's no compelling reason to buy vista. It doesn't solve anything that Xp
provides. That said, it will be spoon fed to everyone buying a new
computer... the sheeple (sheep + people) of the world.
 
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jim

There's no compelling reason to buy vista. It doesn't solve anything that
Xp
provides. That said, it will be spoon fed to everyone buying a new
computer... the sheeple (sheep + people) of the world.

at last a sign of intelligence!

I am fed up with the vista naysayers who lie that vista is faster than xp...

what a pile of steamy vista...
 
C

Chris

I played with the environment for awhile.
Granted, I did enjoy the eye candy as it was something new to fiddle with.
I like the overall layout. Most of it however could just as easily been an add on to XP.

Overall, I am just not prepared to take on that investment of time and compatibility risk for some new widgets that don't really make my life any better.
Especially when Ultimate is nearly the price of a new PC. It just doesn’t encourage me at all.

Chris

jim said:
There's no compelling reason to buy vista. It doesn't solve anything that
Xp
provides. That said, it will be spoon fed to everyone buying a new
computer... the sheeple (sheep + people) of the world.

at last a sign of intelligence!

I am fed up with the vista naysayers who lie that vista is faster than xp...

what a pile of steamy vista...
 
R

Richard Urban

Because you try to run Vista on a 486 does not mean that it is not faster.
Most of what I do on Vista **IS**.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!



jim said:
There's no compelling reason to buy vista. It doesn't solve anything that
Xp
provides. That said, it will be spoon fed to everyone buying a new
computer... the sheeple (sheep + people) of the world.

at last a sign of intelligence!

I am fed up with the vista naysayers who lie that vista is faster than
xp...

what a pile of steamy vista...
 
S

Saucy Lemon

Vista is more secure in design and is stabler than XP.

For those reasons alone, most XP users would benefit from switching to
Vista.

But also, as a heavy duty surfer of the file system, I find Vista much
easier to get around than XP now that I have the hang of it - it took a
while to retrain my fingers, but once done, Vista is quicker and easier to
work with than XP was.

Saucy Lemon
 
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Dustin Harper

I love Vista, and I am a power user. It has a lot of new features that
are great. Vista has the Powershell, which is a power users cool tool.

Sure, it is easy for others. But, don't confuse the simplicity for lack
of use for a power user.

Dustin Harper
(e-mail address removed)
http://www.vistarip.com
 
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Saucy Lemon

Yeah, a DVD player hooked to the cable TV seems to handle my entertainment
needs. I just don't see wiring in any more than that!

Most times when I check the 500 channel universe there's nothing's on, so
it's off to Blockbuster to rent a DVD [I refuse to rent from the cable
company - they (the cable company) get enough of our money already and
uninstalled the digital box they pushed on me .. besides, half the cable
company's movies are por n - which I avoid].

Saucy Lemon
 
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Saucy Lemon

Depends what you mean by compelling. No one is "compelled" to run Vista in
the western world. But there are some pretty good reasons to upgrade XP to
Vista.

A business, for instance, might find putting the employees on standard
accounts etc. with UAC automatically denying elevation requests more safe
than XP. And one fewer virus cuaght at every turn might, in the long run,
save the company a lot of upset and money.

Saucy Lemon
 
J

Jon

Chris said:
After using betas and RCs and playing with them quite a lot, I am still
wondering who will benefit from Vista.

Computer enthusiasts will possibly be better served by XP or Linux.
That is - people who know what they are doing.

People who do not know what they are doing will be better served by Vista.

And, I suppose, that's 99% of the population.
So Vista is bound to be successful.

But would the kind of people who have heard of Usenet be benefited?


I'm currently working my way through Ed Bott's latest book "Windows Vista
Inside Out" [which I thoroughly recommend] and believe me there are many
many new features for those who 'know what they are doing'. If you think you
know it all, think again.
 
C

Chuck

What are some of the features for those that know what they
are doing? Please exclude those that are just eye candy?



Jon said:
Chris said:
After using betas and RCs and playing with them quite a lot, I am still
wondering who will benefit from Vista.

Computer enthusiasts will possibly be better served by XP or Linux.
That is - people who know what they are doing.

People who do not know what they are doing will be better served by
Vista.

And, I suppose, that's 99% of the population.
So Vista is bound to be successful.

But would the kind of people who have heard of Usenet be benefited?


I'm currently working my way through Ed Bott's latest book "Windows Vista
Inside Out" [which I thoroughly recommend] and believe me there are many
many new features for those who 'know what they are doing'. If you think
you know it all, think again.
 
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AJR

Just a few items( most new - some XP improved):
BitLocker
User Access Control
Windows Meeting Space (uses ipv6)
Performance monitoring and tuning
Service hardening
"Complete" PC backup (not old NT)
Super fetch
ReadyBoost
Network frame diagnostics
Startup repair tool
Virtual folders
Shadow copies
Problem detail and solutions

--and lots of other "stuff".


Chuck said:
What are some of the features for those that know what they
are doing? Please exclude those that are just eye candy?



Jon said:
Chris said:
After using betas and RCs and playing with them quite a lot, I am still
wondering who will benefit from Vista.

Computer enthusiasts will possibly be better served by XP or Linux.
That is - people who know what they are doing.

People who do not know what they are doing will be better served by
Vista.

And, I suppose, that's 99% of the population.
So Vista is bound to be successful.

But would the kind of people who have heard of Usenet be benefited?


I'm currently working my way through Ed Bott's latest book "Windows Vista
Inside Out" [which I thoroughly recommend] and believe me there are many
many new features for those who 'know what they are doing'. If you think
you know it all, think again.
 
B

Bill Condie

The Photo Gallery is pretty neat.

AJR said:
Just a few items( most new - some XP improved):
BitLocker
User Access Control
Windows Meeting Space (uses ipv6)
Performance monitoring and tuning
Service hardening
"Complete" PC backup (not old NT)
Super fetch
ReadyBoost
Network frame diagnostics
Startup repair tool
Virtual folders
Shadow copies
Problem detail and solutions

--and lots of other "stuff".


Chuck said:
What are some of the features for those that know what they
are doing? Please exclude those that are just eye candy?



Jon said:
news:$z+VSxDoohxFFwzw@[127.0.0.1]...
After using betas and RCs and playing with them quite a lot, I am still
wondering who will benefit from Vista.

Computer enthusiasts will possibly be better served by XP or Linux.
That is - people who know what they are doing.

People who do not know what they are doing will be better served by
Vista.

And, I suppose, that's 99% of the population.
So Vista is bound to be successful.

But would the kind of people who have heard of Usenet be benefited?
--
Chris


I'm currently working my way through Ed Bott's latest book "Windows
Vista Inside Out" [which I thoroughly recommend] and believe me there
are many many new features for those who 'know what they are doing'. If
you think you know it all, think again.
 
J

jim

Most of what I do on Vista **IS**.

change your name to "urban legends" please....




Richard Urban said:
Because you try to run Vista on a 486 does not mean that it is not faster.
Most of what I do on Vista **IS**.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
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Alias

Saucy said:
Depends what you mean by compelling. No one is "compelled" to run Vista
in the western world. But there are some pretty good reasons to upgrade
XP to Vista.

A business, for instance, might find putting the employees on standard
accounts etc. with UAC automatically denying elevation requests more
safe than XP. And one fewer virus cuaght at every turn might, in the
long run, save the company a lot of upset and money.

Saucy Lemon

Or they could teach their employees what safe hex is and save money
upgrading to Vista.

Alias
 
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Saucy Lemon

Teach them? But they want to see the dancing bunnies .. Gertrude over in
Sales will never pass on a dancing bunny ..

Saucy Lemon


Alias said:
Saucy said:
Depends what you mean by compelling. No one is "compelled" to run Vista
in the western world. But there are some pretty good reasons to upgrade
XP to Vista.

A business, for instance, might find putting the employees on standard
accounts etc. with UAC automatically denying elevation requests more safe
than XP. And one fewer virus cuaght at every turn might, in the long run,
save the company a lot of upset and money.

Saucy Lemon

Or they could teach their employees what safe hex is and save money
upgrading to Vista.

Alias
 
R

Richard Urban

So, how was Bubba?

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 

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