Only 13 Days More to Go!

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Alias

And you can get the new version of Ubuntu, Jaunty Jackalope! Get it FREE
at http://www.ubuntu.com/

Not only is it free but it comes with access to thousands of free programs!

What can be done with Ubuntu?

Email
Surf the web
Burn CDs.
Rip CDs.
Listen to music.
Watch vidoes/DVDs.
Scan and print.
Spreadsheets.
Presentations
Newsgroups.
HTML editing.
Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
Make videos.
Download photos from a camera and organize them.
Translations.
Use a dictionary
Learn how to touch type.
Edit images.
Send and receive a fax.
Take screenshots.
Create .PDF files.
Create and use a data base.
Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
Windows Live Messenger.
IRC.
Bluetooth.
Torrent.

and much more!

What you can't do with Ubuntu:

Run some MS or other niche programs like AutoCad. Most video games won't
work with Ubuntu either so if you're into games, dual boot with XP.

Or worry about:

WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.

Alias
 
M

measekite's psychiatrist

Ubuntu is releasing their next pile of crap: Spicy Sphincter. Remember it
won't run any of the popular programs out there so there is no need to use
it. Although there are a couple of exceptions.

Alias and others who are broke and can't afford a real OS can use it.
 
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Alias

measekite's psychiatrist said:
Ubuntu is releasing their next pile of crap: Spicy Sphincter.

A lie.
Remember it
won't run any of the popular programs out there so there is no need to use
it.

Another lie. Ho hum.
Although there are a couple of exceptions.

Alias and others who are broke and can't afford a real OS can use it.

Yet another lie.

The question is why does the nymshifting low life scum ball lie?

Alias
 
M

measekite's psychiatrist

On with the countdown


Alias claims Ubuntu can do quite a bit of things. He left out the
explanation of those things which I have completed to reveal the complete
truth about Ubuntu.



What can be done with Ubuntu?

Email

Basic E-Mails with maybe one attachment. Two or more will tax the system and
cause a crash.
Surf the web

Yes, you can surf the web with Ubuntu.

Burn CDs.

Simple burns, nothing complicated.


If you are lucky.

Listen to music.

You don't need Ubuntu to do this. Power up your iPod.

Watch vidoes/DVDs.

You would be lucky to get this feature to work. It might but not for long.

Scan and print.

The printer handles the scanning and printing. Ubuntu is just in the way.

Spreadsheets.

Maybe you can add 100-200 numbers. Anything more complicated you need
Excel. Forget macros.

Presentations

You can do presentations but stay away from Ubuntu. Nobody wants to hear
about Ubuntu.

Newsgroups.

Where do you think Alias hangs out all day? Trying to shove Ubuntu down our
throats.

HTML editing.

Hmmm. Editing software would work but the best products are on the Windows
platform.

Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.

Yea, that is all the games Ubuntu will let you run. For the popular games,
you need Playstation, Xbox, Microsoft Windows, Ubuntu is a piece of crap.

Make videos.

Very simple videos. For something worth while, you need Windows.

Download photos from a camera and organize them.
BFD.


Translations.

Yes - You need someone to translate Ubuntu into English. Good luck finding
someone other than a geek who can't laid to do this for you.

Use a dictionary

The dictionary is on the Shelf. No need to use your computer for this.
Ubuntu would be heavily taxed trying this.

Learn how to touch type.

Funny - A Keyboard and a book would let you do this. Ubuntu can't teach you
to type.

Edit images.

Very basic and simple edits. For something more robust, Adobe on the
Microsoft or Apple platform would do just fine.

Send and receive a fax.

This is what your pirnter is for. Ubuntu can't do this.

Take screenshots.

Again, BFD. who needs a screenshot of Ubuntu? NOBODY does. HA HA HA HA

Create .PDF files.

Adobe on Windows handles this very well. Ubuntu will choke on this.

Create and use a data base.

Ubuntu doesn't create databases. Open Sores has primative software to let
you create a list and display it back. For real database creation you need
a powerhouse. Microsoft can handle the task very well. Look no further
than Microsoft solutions.

Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including Windows
Live Messenger.
IRC.
Bluetooth.

Very primitive capabilities that sometimes works. Stay away if you need
your sanity.
 
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Adam Albright

This post is funny coming from someone who rejects atheism, thus he must
believe in some God.
But what exactly does Frank believe in?
A "god" perhaps yes, but if you are following his Word, then your God is not
benevolent.
The only supernatural being I can think of that you would like, has horns,
is red, has a pitchfork and a tail.
Is that your god frank? It sure seems to be, because all your actions and
words point towards a person that is wicked.

Either that, or you just pretend to believe in some benevolent God, but you
have no faith and you care about no one.
In that case you have no reason to believe in a deity, its only camouflage
to hide your wicked true nature.

You are a liar.. you always were and you always will be.
 
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Adam Albright

yeah go ahead hide behind your stupid snipping...

as usual when frank is cornered he either throws an insult and leaves or
snips.

you are one ****ed up loser. I almost forgot how stupid you are.. by the
way, you are stupider than I recall !

(almost impossible but true)
 
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Alias

Adam said:
This post is funny coming from someone who rejects atheism, thus he must
believe in some God.
But what exactly does Frank believe in?
A "god" perhaps yes, but if you are following his Word, then your God is
not benevolent.
The only supernatural being I can think of that you would like, has
horns, is red, has a pitchfork and a tail.
Is that your god frank? It sure seems to be, because all your actions
and words point towards a person that is wicked.

Either that, or you just pretend to believe in some benevolent God, but
you have no faith and you care about no one.
In that case you have no reason to believe in a deity, its only
camouflage to hide your wicked true nature.

You are a liar.. you always were and you always will be.

Here's Frank playing Jesus Christ:


Alias
 
C

Canuck57

Alias said:
And you can get the new version of Ubuntu, Jaunty Jackalope! Get it FREE
at http://www.ubuntu.com/

Not only is it free but it comes with access to thousands of free
programs!

What can be done with Ubuntu?

Email
Surf the web
Burn CDs.
Rip CDs.
Listen to music.
Watch vidoes/DVDs.
Scan and print.
Spreadsheets.
Presentations
Newsgroups.
HTML editing.
Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
Make videos.
Download photos from a camera and organize them.
Translations.
Use a dictionary
Learn how to touch type.
Edit images.
Send and receive a fax.
Take screenshots.
Create .PDF files.
Create and use a data base.
Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including Windows
Live Messenger.
IRC.
Bluetooth.
Torrent.

and much more!

What you can't do with Ubuntu:

Run some MS or other niche programs like AutoCad. Most video games won't
work with Ubuntu either so if you're into games, dual boot with XP.

Or worry about:

WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.

Alias

You forgot, being closed source with NSY keys and other back doors....

Linux can be verfied to be clean.
 
C

Canuck57

On with the countdown

I am going to waste some time with you.
Alias claims Ubuntu can do quite a bit of things. He left out the
explanation of those things which I have completed to reveal the complete
truth about Ubuntu.

Quite true, and more stable too. I can copy a 4GB MPG movie in Linux much
faster than Vista and XP. Even over the network, much faster with
Linux/Ubuntu.
Basic E-Mails with maybe one attachment. Two or more will tax the system
and
cause a crash.

Not only will it take attachments, you can us PGP encryption with others.
Sorry, Microsoft is the only email/OS that doesn't support it yet.
Microsoft trolls haven't figured out how to read the specs and make it work.

I never had a problem with multiple attachments, must be user error.
Replace user.
Yes, you can surf the web with Ubuntu.

Nice too.
Simple burns, nothing complicated.

Yep, reliable too. Less interfering DRM is a bonus in Linux/Ubuntu. Linux
will never add DRM to make your life hell.
If you are lucky.

Rip them all the time in Linux. I don't have to worry about MS DRM and
being modified and tagged.
You don't need Ubuntu to do this. Power up your iPod.

Works either way, download them to the iPod when on the move.
You would be lucky to get this feature to work. It might but not for
long.

Works for me. If you spend some time, there are converters out there too.
Rip the DRM out, make a MP2 or MP4 file out of it. Fits nice on a reuseable
USB too, unlike Vista, copies much faster.
The printer handles the scanning and printing. Ubuntu is just in the way.

Works for me, HP even has drivers available now for all recent models. Even
looks the same. What, are you running a 1990 version of Slackware 0.91p7 or
something?
Maybe you can add 100-200 numbers. Anything more complicated you need
Excel. Forget macros.

Huh, I do this all the time. Some are huge. You can even get mySQL or
Postgress at no extra charge for the enterprise level stuff and run them
both at the same time without the chunking, stalling and thrashing of Vista.
In fact, I leave my MySQL engine up all the time as memory management is
efficient to a point where I am not concerned.
You can do presentations but stay away from Ubuntu. Nobody wants to hear
about Ubuntu.

Works for me, in fact it is easier to use in OpenOffice too.
Where do you think Alias hangs out all day? Trying to shove Ubuntu down
our
throats.

Has dozens of reader types. You have a choice with Linux. No one is
shoving Linux down your throat. It isn't like Microsoft bundling practice
with PCs.
Hmmm. Editing software would work but the best products are on the
Windows
platform.

OpenOffice or dozens of tools exist in Linux, in fact most were in Linux
before Microsoft figured out what HTML was and were putzing with Netbios and
Winsock. Some like Kompozer and penOffice even work on multile platorms so
if your buddy uses a Mac you are not screwed.
Yea, that is all the games Ubuntu will let you run. For the popular
games,
you need Playstation, Xbox, Microsoft Windows, Ubuntu is a piece of crap.

Try plugging GNU chess against Vista Titans Chess, Vista looses real bad.
Titans is slower too.
Very simple videos. For something worth while, you need Windows.

Funny, I use my Canon Camera to make videos. What, you lug your PC around?
LOL.

But it works great. No problems at all.
Yes - You need someone to translate Ubuntu into English. Good luck
finding
someone other than a geek who can't laid to do this for you.

No idiot. Being Ubuntu/Linux is open source based on open standards it
endeavors to support multiple formats and does better than DRM/locking
Microshaft efforts. For example, I can open a Microsoft document and save
it as a PDF in one step using the word processor I am used too.
The dictionary is on the Shelf. No need to use your computer for this.
Ubuntu would be heavily taxed trying this.

Hey, even my browser spell checks. Get with this century will ya. Old
feature, but you are a deprived IE user.
Funny - A Keyboard and a book would let you do this. Ubuntu can't teach
you
to type.

Your only valid point so far.
Very basic and simple edits. For something more robust, Adobe on the
Microsoft or Apple platform would do just fine.

You should try some Linux tools. But agree in part, Mac is superior. But
MS-Windows, backwards.
This is what your pirnter is for. Ubuntu can't do this.

Vista Premium/Basic can't do that without added software, Linux it is
included at no extra charge.
Again, BFD. who needs a screenshot of Ubuntu? NOBODY does. HA HA HA HA

Linux was doing screen shots before Microsoft had a GUI. Your right, no big
deal, even though MS got it 10-15 years after everyone else did. Didn't IE8
finally get tabbed browsing?
Adobe on Windows handles this very well. Ubuntu will choke on this.

You don't need to spend or learn another program to do this in Linux, it is
built right into OpenOffice. Why buy and learn another program if you don't
need too? You know, like a MS-Windows user has too?
Ubuntu doesn't create databases. Open Sores has primative software to let
you create a list and display it back. For real database creation you
need
a powerhouse. Microsoft can handle the task very well. Look no further
than Microsoft solutions.

Neither does Vista create databases. But I would put mySQL or PostgreSQL up
against the costly MS-SQL effort any day. Beats Microsoft in all ways, can
better use multiple processors and memory, faster, smaller, well documented,
lots of books and info, no extra charge or CALs to worry about. Even works
on more than one OS, including MS-Windows garbage although performance and
reliability does suffer.
Very primitive capabilities that sometimes works. Stay away if you need
your sanity.

Talk about primitive, the Vista CD burning is well, so last century. How to
make a trivial task a real CF and that is why most MS-Windows users buy a
CD-DVD burning package as an extra if the vendor does not already include
one. As Vista is a loser, can't even burn ISO images worth a crap without
extra tools.

Wake up, there is more to computing than Microsoft. Microsoft needs viagra.
If you like spending money, buy a Mac and load OpenOffice and Firefox. Or
save a bundle and load Ubuntu/FireFox/OpenOffice on a PC...
 
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Albright's Psychiatrist

Adam Albright said:
yeah go ahead hide behind your stupid snipping...

as usual when frank is cornered he either throws an insult and leaves or
snips.

you are one ****ed up loser. I almost forgot how stupid you are.. by the
way, you are stupider than I recall !

(almost impossible but true)
Isn't it time to return to your psychiatric visits? You are off again and
you could be a serious threat to the vista forum. Better call and get help
right away.
 
A

Albright's Psychiatrist

Isn't it time to return to your psychiatric visits? You are off again and
you could be a serious threat to the vista forum. Better call and get help
right away.
 
A

Alias

Canuck57 said:
I am going to waste some time with you.


Quite true, and more stable too. I can copy a 4GB MPG movie in Linux much
faster than Vista and XP. Even over the network, much faster with
Linux/Ubuntu.


Not only will it take attachments, you can us PGP encryption with others.
Sorry, Microsoft is the only email/OS that doesn't support it yet.
Microsoft trolls haven't figured out how to read the specs and make it work.

I never had a problem with multiple attachments, must be user error.
Replace user.


Nice too.


Yep, reliable too. Less interfering DRM is a bonus in Linux/Ubuntu. Linux
will never add DRM to make your life hell.


Rip them all the time in Linux. I don't have to worry about MS DRM and
being modified and tagged.


Works either way, download them to the iPod when on the move.


Works for me. If you spend some time, there are converters out there too.
Rip the DRM out, make a MP2 or MP4 file out of it. Fits nice on a reuseable
USB too, unlike Vista, copies much faster.


Works for me, HP even has drivers available now for all recent models. Even
looks the same. What, are you running a 1990 version of Slackware 0.91p7 or
something?


Huh, I do this all the time. Some are huge. You can even get mySQL or
Postgress at no extra charge for the enterprise level stuff and run them
both at the same time without the chunking, stalling and thrashing of Vista.
In fact, I leave my MySQL engine up all the time as memory management is
efficient to a point where I am not concerned.


Works for me, in fact it is easier to use in OpenOffice too.


Has dozens of reader types. You have a choice with Linux. No one is
shoving Linux down your throat. It isn't like Microsoft bundling practice
with PCs.


OpenOffice or dozens of tools exist in Linux, in fact most were in Linux
before Microsoft figured out what HTML was and were putzing with Netbios and
Winsock. Some like Kompozer and penOffice even work on multile platorms so
if your buddy uses a Mac you are not screwed.


Try plugging GNU chess against Vista Titans Chess, Vista looses real bad.
Titans is slower too.


Funny, I use my Canon Camera to make videos. What, you lug your PC around?
LOL.


But it works great. No problems at all.


No idiot. Being Ubuntu/Linux is open source based on open standards it
endeavors to support multiple formats and does better than DRM/locking
Microshaft efforts. For example, I can open a Microsoft document and save
it as a PDF in one step using the word processor I am used too.


Hey, even my browser spell checks. Get with this century will ya. Old
feature, but you are a deprived IE user.


Your only valid point so far.


You should try some Linux tools. But agree in part, Mac is superior. But
MS-Windows, backwards.


Vista Premium/Basic can't do that without added software, Linux it is
included at no extra charge.


Linux was doing screen shots before Microsoft had a GUI. Your right, no big
deal, even though MS got it 10-15 years after everyone else did. Didn't IE8
finally get tabbed browsing?


You don't need to spend or learn another program to do this in Linux, it is
built right into OpenOffice. Why buy and learn another program if you don't
need too? You know, like a MS-Windows user has too?


Neither does Vista create databases. But I would put mySQL or PostgreSQL up
against the costly MS-SQL effort any day. Beats Microsoft in all ways, can
better use multiple processors and memory, faster, smaller, well documented,
lots of books and info, no extra charge or CALs to worry about. Even works
on more than one OS, including MS-Windows garbage although performance and
reliability does suffer.


Talk about primitive, the Vista CD burning is well, so last century. How to
make a trivial task a real CF and that is why most MS-Windows users buy a
CD-DVD burning package as an extra if the vendor does not already include
one. As Vista is a loser, can't even burn ISO images worth a crap without
extra tools.

Wake up, there is more to computing than Microsoft. Microsoft needs viagra.
If you like spending money, buy a Mac and load OpenOffice and Firefox. Or
save a bundle and load Ubuntu/FireFox/OpenOffice on a PC...

Speaking reasonably and using facts and logic won't work with the
nymshifter or Frank. They will continue to post their illogical and
false posts like robots.

Alias
 
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measekite

Alias said:
Speaking reasonably and using facts and logic won't work with the
nymshifter or Frank. They will continue to post their illogical and false
posts like robots.

Alias

Just like your idiotic daily countdown to the INFERIOR OS Ubuntu written by
geeks for geeks who can't get laid. You know the OS, the one that is
WORTHLESS to Vista users? yea, that one.

What a dipshit.
 
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Alex Clark

Hmmm, lots of interesting opinions in these threads, and whereas I'm
certainly no MS proponent I do take issue with a few of your points, Canuck:
Rip [CDs] all the time in Linux. I don't have to worry about MS DRM and
being modified and tagged.

Any time I've ripped music CDs in Windows, I've never had to worry about
DRM. I either use a free third party ripper or Windows Media Player and rip
to MP3 format. No embedded DRM in those files, rips quickly, and gives good
quality.

Huh, I do this all the time. Some are huge. You can even get mySQL or
Postgress at no extra charge for the enterprise level stuff and run them
both at the same time without the chunking, stalling and thrashing of
Vista. In fact, I leave my MySQL engine up all the time as memory
management is efficient to a point where I am not concerned.

I'm not sure why you've referenced PostgreSQL and mySQL, unless you're
talking about them acting as backing stores for OpenOffice spreadsheets on
Linux? If so, Excel has had this functionality since at least 97, if not
earlier. Any ODBC data source can be used as a backing store on an Excel
spreadsheet, which includes everything from plain text files to a remote
Oracle data-server.
Funny, I use my Canon Camera to make videos. What, you lug your PC
around? LOL.

I may be being presumptuous, but I suspect your Canon camera won't edit
videos, add subtitles, and do the other stuff that Windows Movie Maker will.
That said, I'm almost certain there are free open-source Linux apps out
there that will do all that and more.
No idiot. Being Ubuntu/Linux is open source based on open standards it
endeavors to support multiple formats and does better than DRM/locking
Microshaft efforts. For example, I can open a Microsoft document and save
it as a PDF in one step using the word processor I am used too.

As can I in Windows. A free PDF printer driver and any document I can print
can become a PDF in one click.

Not sure where you're getting all this DRM stuff from either. Yes MS
supports it, but I've never had it rammed down my throat by them. The only
time it caused a minor hiccup was for playing DVD's from different regions -
until I installed the free VLC media player, and now I can play anything.
Vista Premium/Basic can't do that without added software, Linux it is
included at no extra charge.

Vista I'm not sure about. I do know the Fax service was included as part of
my XP Pro install though, and it's been around since the NT4 days. Maybe MS
removed it in Vista, but I'd doubt that.
Linux was doing screen shots before Microsoft had a GUI.

Linux, even in its earliest incarnation, didn't exist until 1991 - well
after Microsoft had a GUI. It's a significantly younger OS than Windows,
unless you count its Unix roots.
Your right, no big deal, even though MS got it 10-15 years after everyone
else did.

Err... screen shots has always been a feature of Windows with a simple push
of the Print Screen key. Also, it really depends on what you actually class
as being "Linux". If you're talking about a feature of the GUI, then you're
actually concerned with X Windows which technically isn't "Linux" per se,
it's the server for the graphical shell.

This is like saying "Linux can play chess better than Windows" - what you're
really saying is "the bundled chess game I used on a particular distribution
of Linux was harder to play against than the one that's bundled with
Windows".
Didn't IE8 finally get tabbed browsing?

Actually IE7 did, but I eventually caved and started using FireFox about 6
months ago - and yes, it is a lot faster and more stable.
You don't need to spend or learn another program to do this in Linux, it
is built right into OpenOffice. Why buy and learn another program if you
don't need too? You know, like a MS-Windows user has too?

I never paid for or learned anything - just installed a free PDF print
driver and now whenever I need to create a PDF I just fire up MS Word and
hit print when I'm ready. Nice, transparent way of doing it.
Neither does Vista create databases.

Quite true.
But I would put mySQL or PostgreSQL up against the costly MS-SQL effort
any day.

MS SQL Express Edition is free for desktop use.
Beats Microsoft in all ways,

I strongly doubt that.
can better use multiple processors and memory,

Can I see some statistical evidence of this please?

Again, I highly doubt this, and would love to see some evidence to back up
this claim. Oracle? Most likely faster. MySQL or PostgreSQL? Not from
what I've heard.
smaller, well documented, lots of books and info, no extra charge or CALs
to worry about. Even works on more than one OS, including MS-Windows
garbage although performance and reliability does suffer.

I develop LOB database applications that use SQL Server for their back end
and have never had any reliability or performance woes, and I'm talking
large user bases with demanding queries. Additional to that, the language
featureset and capabilities that SQL Server supports is FAR in excess of the
current Linux offerings, and that's before you get to thinks like Reporting
Services. If I had to write those parts myself or code around the lacking
featureset in mySQL, the cost to my clients would be astronomical - far in
excess of what they've paid for a few processor licenses, that's for sure.

Talk about primitive, the Vista CD burning is well, so last century. How
to make a trivial task a real CF and that is why most MS-Windows users buy
a CD-DVD burning package as an extra if the vendor does not already
include one.

Again, do you have evidence to support this? Most home users that buy from
Dell, HP/Compaq etc end up with bundled burning software from Nero or
similar whether they want it or not - they don't set out to specifically
purchase it. And yes, the ability to burn ISOs in Windows is sorely
lacking, but there are plenty of free Windows tools out there which will do
the trick. MS themselves provide tools for mounting ISO files, and if they
don't then once again - plenty of freely available utilities for it.
Windows is turning out to be pretty cheap, at least for me.

Wake up, there is more to computing than Microsoft.

Absolutely, and I think Microsoft themselves got a wake up call when Vista
was poorly received. In terms of day to day use though, Ubuntu and the
other flavours of Linux are still a mile away from being everyman home user
material - they're still in the realm of the technophile and hobbyist.

And before we get the usual responses of "err no, I installed it for my mom
and she uses OpenOffice every day and she has no problem", remember it was
you who installed it for her and convinced her to use it. Had she just
bought a computer with no intervention from you she'd be doing exactly the
same thing with Vista right now.
 
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Adam Albright

I will sum up your whole miserable life in 1 paragraph.

Its not that you are a retard and have very low IQ that's the real problem.
In the movie Forest Gump, the character portrayed had a low IQ but he
had a positive character or in other worlds he had emotional intelligence.
That's what you completely lack and that's why everyone hates you.
They hate you so much because you are DUMB plus a pain in the ass. You don't
understand why people hate you and that only makes your anger grow.

You are the exact definition of a complete loser that is beyond any help.
Frank too is like this.. that's why you two get along so well.

Go **** yourself bastard.
 
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Adam Albright

I will sum up your whole miserable life in 1 paragraph.

Its not that you are a retard and have very low IQ that's the real problem.
In the movie Forest Gump, the character portrayed had a low IQ but he
had a positive character or in other worlds he had emotional intelligence.
That's what you completely lack and that's why everyone hates you.
They hate you so much because you are DUMB plus a pain in the ass. You don't
understand why people hate you and that only makes your anger grow.

You are the exact definition of a complete loser that is beyond any help.
Frank too is like this.. that's why you two get along so well.

Go **** yourself bastard.
 

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