Norton Anti-Virus

[R. McCarty]

Could be a big factor. If I remember the product history correctly, 1st
they had Norton Personal Firewall and then combined it with NAV
into what became NIS. Then it had AntiSpam wedged into it as well.

Perhaps they just aren't very good at merging/integrating their stand
alone products into a Suite. I just know that whenever a customer
calls and mentions NIS, I have to check that the aspirin bottle in my
computer tool case isn't empty. NIS is just a royal PITA to deal
with and every case of it varies as to what you have to do to get
it up off it's arse.

 

[Leythos]

I use SystemSuite 5.0 with Trend Micro for AV and Sygate for a firewall. I
use their registry fixer and a number of other tools that come with it and,
since 2001, I haven't had one problem with it and it has saved my computer's
ass a number of times.

Thanks for sharing your experience and products used with us. It's nice
to have people post more than just BS or Flames for a product.

 

[kurttrail]

It's such a simple thing - most of your posts are complaints without
any form of help - as an example, the above.

Are you the OP? Are you looking for my help?

My advise to you is to take a long walk on a very short pier.

You state that a product Sucks,

Not only the product, but the company too sucks. It has bought up
everything that MS isn't, and it's getting to the point that Symantec
doesn't do anything good anymore, they just got their spoon in too many
pots, and everything tastes the same, like sh*t.

you state that asking what product you
would recommend to the masses is off-topic,

You aren't the masses. You are just some pro-corporation troll in my
book. I don't respect you, nor are you deserving of me taking you
seriously.

you then speq more BS
about the product and the group.....

LOL! You aren't the group, dipsh*t.

What are you afraid of?

Nothing. When asked by regular people, I have no problem answering
them.

All you deserve is being f*#ked with. How does that second a**hole I've
reemed you over our many conversations feeling?

Since you don't like NAV,

NAV sucks, and any honest tech that has been dealing with home users
will pretty much be of the same opinion. You aren't honest, that's why
you are still a Symantec Suck-up.

what product would you recommend to the
masses,

You aren't the masses, but you are a large mass of excrement.

one that you trust enough to use on your own machine to
protect you at the level that you would feel comfortable?

Give it up, LameGirl. I ain't ever gonna answer you seriously. I don't
deserve it.

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[Ed]

LOL! Just because YOU haven't needed it doesn't mean shit. If you knew
what you were talking about, you would know that even NAV2003's regular
uninstall leaves too much crap behind.

NAV sucks, PERIOD.

Were you born with a big fat turd in your mouth or did you come by it
by choice? You know what they say about things that have to resort to
cursing in order to get its point across... That point has no merit or
it wouldn't have to resort to cursing.....

Have a nice day.... snicker.....

 

[Plato]

Many people fail to use just Norton AV products and/or to keep the

My take is too much nortons is the problem. It all started with Crash
Guard. NAV on it's own seems to do a good job. Too many registry entries
for my "personal taste", but does run OK on the pcs I see. If a client
asks me to put on his NAV, I dont cringe nor get upset at all.

 

[Plato]

TrendMicro (my choice), Kaspersky, NOD32, AVG, Avast!, Panda. Almost
anything but NAV or McAfee.

Which anti virus occupies the newsgroups the most with problems? NAV,
followed by McAfee. Writing. Wall.

Keep in mind that NAV is sold in retail stores, unlike the others you
list. And is very popular. Keep in mind that the more popular, the more
you will see problems. Keep in mind all you see in this NG is XP
problems because that's where they are funneled.

 

[kurttrail]

Were you born with a big fat turd in your mouth or did you come by it
by choice?

No, You got yours with your Symantec product, sh*t-eater.

You know what they say about things that have to resort to
cursing in order to get its point across...

Another pansy that can't take everyday language. What you mean is what
PANSIES say about cursing.

That point has no merit or
it wouldn't have to resort to cursing.....

LOL! So now you are defending your product by switching the focus on
ONE curse word!

Have a nice day.... snicker.....

I'm sure it was more like a little girl giggle, Pansy!

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[Ed]

Thanks for further making my point for me....
You're so easy....

Have a great day.... big snicker.....

 

[Alias]

Keep in mind that NAV is sold in retail stores, unlike the others you
list. And is very popular. Keep in mind that the more popular, the more
you will see problems. Keep in mind all you see in this NG is XP
problems because that's where they are funneled.

Fair enough. I still wouldn't put either one on my machines, having tried
McAfee and seen what NAV can do on other computers.

Panda is sold retail in Spain, btw.

Alias

 

[kurttrail]

Thanks for further making my point for me....

That you are such on idiot that you would rather dwell on my manner of
speech than argue for your product.

You're so easy....

Nope. You are. Symantec is a company that has squandered its
reputation. It has been buying up companies and putting out all sorts
of products, but the are all half-assed pieces of sh*t.

If you want to have problems, install Symantec products. That is
Symantec's well deserved reputation these days. Less and less people
have anything good to say about the scumbags.

Have a great day.... big snicker.....

Giggling like a pansy-assed little girl again. I bet you even wet your
panties.

And it is you that is easy. All it takes is some course words to
giggling.



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[Plato]

The odd thing is that you dont need to pay for an anti-virus anyway. Of
course, your average joe user may not be aware of that since the free
ones have no funds to advertise or distribute

 

[Computer Guru]

NOD32 is the only worthy alternative.

Fair enough. I still wouldn't put either one on my machines, having tried
McAfee and seen what NAV can do on other computers.

Panda is sold retail in Spain, btw.

Alias

 

[Ed]

You really don't have to keep making my point for me. We caught it
with your first adolescent reply. But if you must, little boy, keep
making my point for me. I have no objections to the support you offer
to my point.

You are definitely so easy as with most buffed up peacocks I have
witnessed.


And it goes off and throws another childish temper tantrum... snicker.

 

[Ed]

Please list something you actually have experience with that provides
the same level of protection that you would want on your own computer.

I know you didn't post this question to me, Leythos but I will offer
an answer for your amusement.

I use two on 4 machines. AVG and Norton. As far as ability to
"catch" virii, I think both offer the same level of protection or have
with me. Both seem to update their definitions by the same frequency
which is not an indicator if those definitions are any good or not but
I have yet to have a germ slip by either NAV or AVG. Resource
requirement Footprint seems to be where the big difference comes into
play. Both NAV and AVG seem to require more resources with each
subsequent version release but it appears to me that since NAV2003,
the Norton product has surpassed AVG in the size of its resource
requirements.

That's why I said in a previous post that with older, slower machines,
I think one should stick with AVG or NAV2003 while newer power
machines will not "feel" the larger resource requirements associated
with Post NAV2003 versions of NAV. Example: My latest white box is a
power house and going from NAV2003 to NAV2005 showed no degradation in
performance but doing the same on one of my slower, older laptops
almost brought it to its knees thus making me back version it to
NAV2003.

I'm sorry but I have no experience with other "brands" of AV's but am
sure that they have their pro's and con's also and some may be able to
hold their own quite well in the AV market.

Regards,
Ed

 

[kurttrail]

You really don't have to keep making my point for me. We caught it
with your first adolescent reply.

LOL! Obviously you have never been in the company of real men, only
pansies. Real men tell it like it is. Pansies get upset over curse
words.

But if you must, little boy, keep
making my point for me.

What point? That you rather talk about me rather to change the subject
away from how horrible Symantec's products are?

I have no objections to the support you offer
to my point.

No problem. But I doubt that any is fooled by you trying to change the
subject away from Symantec to me.

You are definitely so easy as with most buffed up peacocks I have
witnessed.

ROFL! Figures a pansy like you is into buffing cocks.

And it goes off and throws another childish temper tantrum... snicker.

Dude, you had to cut out my whole reply, because it shows that you are a
pansy upset over a word and that you have totally given up defending
your beloved Symantec.

Hey, I'm an a**hole. No doubt about it, but I'm an a**hole that can
keep on topic, which in this case is that Symantec makes sh*tty
products.

So please come back again, totally ignoring the topic, to talk ONLY
about me.

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[Ed]

Hey, appreciate the continued conformation about your situation there
squirt. Not necessary to keep confirming but if you must, the multi
conformations are welcome....

You're so easy, Kid

Semper Fidelis there Squirt....

 

[kurttrail]

Hey, appreciate the continued conformation about your situation there
squirt.

Yep. You have definitely lost it!

Not necessary to keep confirming but if you must, the multi
conformations are welcome....

No problem! You need to change the subject to me, because your Symantec
product is so indefensible. It is garbage, and every reasonable human
being that knows anything about computing knows that Symantec puts out
garbage!

You're so easy, Kid

Why thanks! My receding hair line and increasingly white beard thank
you!

Semper Fidelis there Squirt....

Yes, you need to rely on faith to believe in the scumbag company
Symantec, because reason is not on your side!

Please keep responding about me instead of your beloved Symantec! I'm
enjoying the multi-confirmations of your retreat away from supporting
your faith in Symantec! ROFL!

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[Peter A. Stavrakoglou]

Um, do you know what "logic" means? The fact that people do NOT post
nearly as many problems regarding the other AVs ... get it now?


I use SystemSuite 5.0 with Trend Micro for AV and Sygate for a firewall. I
use their registry fixer and a number of other tools that come with it
and, since 2001, I haven't had one problem with it and it has saved my
computer's ass a number of times.

Alias

I've been a user of System Suite since version. 3. I use version 6 now.
The included AV app is very good as well as the other utilities. One
problem I have found is with Adobe Photoshop, the registry fixer in System
Suite, both versions 5 and 6, remove or fix something that requires a
reinstall of Photoshop in order to get it to work. I've not been able to
isolate the item or oitems that the registry fixer is changing that causes
the problem. Also, the first product update for version 6 killed my
internet connection. Tech support has been quick to remedy that problem.
Other than these two problems, I have had nothing but good success for years
with this software.

 

[Alias]

I've been a user of System Suite since version. 3. I use version 6 now.
The included AV app is very good as well as the other utilities. One
problem I have found is with Adobe Photoshop, the registry fixer in System
Suite, both versions 5 and 6, remove or fix something that requires a
reinstall of Photoshop in order to get it to work.

I only use the manual registry fixer, not the automatic one. I choose what
gets removed or changed.

I've not been able to isolate the item or oitems that the registry fixer
is changing that causes the problem. Also, the first product update for
version 6 killed my internet connection. Tech support has been quick to
remedy that problem.

Can you elaborate on that? I am considering upgrading to version 6.

Other than these two problems, I have had nothing but good success for
years with this software.

Me too.

Alias

 

[Peter A. Stavrakoglou]

I only use the manual registry fixer, not the automatic one. I choose what
gets removed or changed.

I swore that I'd never use the automatic registry fixer but I did years ago
and never had a problem with it - never at all until I started using
Photoshop. Not too bad of a track record for this software, IMO

Can you elaborate on that? I am considering upgrading to version 6.

Correction - it's "Power Utilities" version 6, not "System Suite". After
installing the software, there were, of course, virus definition file
updates. After a month or so, there was a malware update, virus def update,
and product update available the same day. After installing all of them, my
internet connection was hosed. I restored my system and then installed each
update individually in order to isolate which one it was. It was the
"product update". I contacted tech support via email and within two days
they returned my message with instructions to uninstall the software and
then install a different version I downloaded from V-Com's site for which
they provided the link.