Norton Anti-Virus

[Guest]

On boot upI get a windows warning that Norton has not loaded and I am at
risk. a little further on during boot up, Norton loads and it is always
loaded before the internet connection is made, hopefully there is no problem,
it never used to do this.
I have uninstalled and reinstalled twice which puts the matter right for a
short time only for it to return, any one had experience of this?
Regards

 

[kurttrail]

On boot upI get a windows warning that Norton has not loaded and I am
at risk. a little further on during boot up, Norton loads and it is
always loaded before the internet connection is made, hopefully there
is no problem, it never used to do this.
I have uninstalled and reinstalled twice which puts the matter right
for a short time only for it to return, any one had experience of
this?
Regards

Well, did you know that Symantec Corp is a great product?

Did you know some nameless entity rated it #2? Don't mind that it costs
$1000 bucks, because the smallest number of licenses you can buy is 10!
Symantec makes a similar but different product for Small Businesses and
you only need to buy 5 licenses for $421!

Oops! My apologies to the OP, I just was just channeling LameGirl, and
her/its lame and irrelevant answers when it come to posts about NAV!

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[R. McCarty]

Norton again ! - Ask yourself a question. Why would I want a program
that costs money and have to fiddle with it to assure myself it is working
properly. Having to uninstall/reinstall it takes time away from productive
use of the PC. You wouldn't keep a car that requires recalls and trips to
the dealership to keep it on the road. No other company/program takes
up as much bandwidth here as Symantec/Norton. Microsoft NG Admin
should send Symantec a bill for all their problems that get fixed here.

 

[Leythos]

Ask yourself a question. Why would I want a program
that costs money

What program do you suggest that people run as part of a Quality Anti-
Virus solution?

 

[kurttrail]

What program do you suggest that people run as part of a Quality Anti-
Virus solution?

One the requires you to buy multiple license, even if you only need one,
and costs at a minimum $421 for those mulitple licenses!

Damn! I'm channeling you again, LameGirl! <vbg>

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[R. McCarty]

You left out my subjective part of the statement about having to
"Fiddle/Twiddle" with it. Purchased software should work out of
the box and not require the user to work with it - to get it to work.
I have no interest/desire to participate in the other Symantec thread.

 

[kurttrail]

You left out my subjective part of the statement about having to
"Fiddle/Twiddle" with it. Purchased software should work out of
the box and not require the user to work with it - to get it to work.
I have no interest/desire to participate in the other Symantec thread.

ROFL! I don't blame you one bit.

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[Richard in AZ]

AVG by Grisoft (www.grisoft.com) is an excellent antivirus program. $39 for
a two year license on the Pro version. The Free version (for home users
http://snipurl.com/anmy) is the same program without technical support and
with shared update server. I have switched all my computers to AVG three
years ago and have not ever had a virus get through. On XP machines I
added the Microsoft Antivirus program and that has stopped all spyware.

 

[Mike Hall \(MS-MVP\)]

Do yourself a favour and dump Norton.. Norton 'Anything' is bad news.. AVG
do a nice free solution..

 

[Leythos]

You left out my subjective part of the statement about having to
"Fiddle/Twiddle" with it. Purchased software should work out of
the box and not require the user to work with it - to get it to work.
I have no interest/desire to participate in the other Symantec thread.

And again you've been very vague about what solution you would choose -
so, how about it - what AV product, would you tell the masses to use and
what do you trust on your own computer?

Oh, and there was nothing to setup on Symantec Corp/SB desktop clients,
unless you want to disable features, it works out of the box without
needing anything other than updates (like other AV applications).

So, how about it - what product do you suggest the masses use on their
Windows based systems?

 

[Leythos]

AVG do a nice free solution..

Avg is nice for a Free solution for someone that can "afford" any other
solution, but it ranks low on the ability to detect/isolate viruses.

So, what do you run on your computer?

 

[R. McCarty]

Leythos -

Are you replying to me or Kurt ? My post that's quoted here has
nothing to do with the Symantec Enterprise AV thread between
you and Kurt. It was in response to the OP who had re-installed
several times and couldn't assure himself that NAV was working
correctly. All I meant in my response to you was that you quoted
me out of context, omitting the part where I questioned the value
of purchased software that must be re-worked or re-installed a
number of times & how inefficient and unnecessary that is. Maybe
you're just continuing the thread and used my post to resume.

 

[Leythos]

Maybe
you're just continuing the thread and used my post to resume.

Sorry, if I got lost between the posts.

So, how about it, what antivirus product do you suggest that the masses
use - Free or Not, what should they use in your opinion

 

[Ed]

On boot upI get a windows warning that Norton has not loaded and I am at
risk. a little further on during boot up, Norton loads and it is always
loaded before the internet connection is made

Well known issue with windows not allowing time for everything to load
before wigging out and starting to fling error alerts like candy at
parade time.

Goto Security Center and select "Change the way security center alerts
me" in the left column and uncheck all three items.

Regards,
Ed

 

[kurttrail]

Sorry, if I got lost between the posts.

So, how about it, what antivirus product do you suggest that the
masses
use - Free or Not, what should they use in your opinion

Just drop it. Can't you understand that he doesn't want to get involved
in the sh*t?

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[Leythos]

Just drop it. Can't you understand that he doesn't want to get involved
in the sh*t?

That's just what I expect from people that don't really stand behind
what they state in groups.....

If you have the knowledge to post that product X is good for the masses
or that product X is better than product Y, then you need something
other than BS to back it up with. If you tell people to Use a Free
solution, stating that it's fine/better, and you don't use it yourself
then you've just defeated your own statement.

I use Symantec AV only products when I have a choice, use them on my own
computers too, and I've never found a better choice - and yes, we review
the vendors current versions every year.

 

[Lil' Dave]

On boot upI get a windows warning that Norton has not loaded and I am at
risk. a little further on during boot up, Norton loads and it is always
loaded before the internet connection is made, hopefully there is no problem,
it never used to do this.
I have uninstalled and reinstalled twice which puts the matter right for a
short time only for it to return, any one had experience of this?
Regards

This is normal. MS Security Center will notify you if your AV is not
loaded. Since the Security Center loads first, does not find your AV, thus
the notice. This will happen, no matter what the manufacturer is of the AV
if the Security Center recognizes the AV. It goes away after the AV loads,
which you DO NOT mention for some reason. If this is not the case, please
advise this newsgroup in the same thread. The version of NAV may be
pertinent.

 

[kurttrail]

That's just what I expect from people that don't really stand behind
what they state in groups.....

LameGirl, you are an ass. You advocate very expensive AV meant for
businesses and domain networks in a group that is MOSTLY home users.
What you stand behind is just plain foolishness!

If you have the knowledge to post that product X is good for the
masses or that product X is better than product Y, then you need
something other than BS to back it up with.

NAV, Symancrap AV for the masses, was once the AV of choice, BUT has
become so bloated, unreliable, and difficult to remove that it is
consider by many just as bad as the viruses that it is meant to protect
computers from!

You have even said that you have found viruses on computers that were
running on NAV, BUT you are so effin' deranged that you think SymCorp or
SB is a home consumer product! I've tried to show you why it isn't but
you have your head so far up Symancrap ass that all you can see is
SymanCRAP!

If you tell people to Use
a Free solution, stating that it's fine/better, and you don't use it
yourself then you've just defeated your own statement.

ROFL! Still twisting what I said! You really are demented!

I use Symantec AV only products when I have a choice,

Goodie for you! But I bet it ain't NAV!

use them on my
own computers too,

And from what I've seen about you, you probably buy yours along with a
customer, so you get a major discount when buying in bulk. Most home
users can't afford to spend the money necessary for SymCorp or SB, nor
need as many licenses that Symancrap forces them to buy.

5 for SymSB
10 for SymCorp

and I've never found a better choice - and yes, we
review the vendors current versions every year.

And I've seen you explain your testing methodology when it came to
internet/browser speed, and it was totally unscientific, and prone to
errors. I wouldn't trust a word you said, EVER!

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[Ron Martell]

This is normal. MS Security Center will notify you if your AV is not
loaded. Since the Security Center loads first, does not find your AV, thus
the notice. This will happen, no matter what the manufacturer is of the AV
if the Security Center recognizes the AV. It goes away after the AV loads,
which you DO NOT mention for some reason. If this is not the case, please
advise this newsgroup in the same thread. The version of NAV may be
pertinent.

Then why doesn't it happen to me? I use AVG on my personal machine
and never see that warning. Neither do any of my clients who also run
AVG, and I have never encountered it on any of the relatively few
machines that I see which have a fully functioning Norton install.

However it seems that malfunctioning and Norton are synonyms.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
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[Sherman]

Then why doesn't it happen to me? I use AVG on my personal machine
and never see that warning. Neither do any of my clients who also run
AVG, and I have never encountered it on any of the relatively few
machines that I see which have a fully functioning Norton install.

However it seems that malfunctioning and Norton are synonyms.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

In memory of a dear friend Alex Nichol MVP
http://aumha.org/alex.htm

As XP evolved, I believe it was after service pack 2, AV software has to be
able to tell XP that it is present (installed). At least this is the case
with NAV. I know this because after setting up countless computers,
installing the Win XP updates and the NAV updates there is a point XP stops
complaining the computer might be vulnerable or not protected, or what ever
the hell it says, eventually after nearing the end of the update process for
NAV, NAV downloads something that allows it to tell XP it's there, and then
XP stops nagging you about it.

Your comment "malfunctioning and Norton are synonyms" I believe are
incorrect. May be it's because you have had a bad experience with NAV in the
past and I understand this but I have been using Norton Internet Security
for many years now and find it top notch. I also like AVG, nice program. I
have had glitches with just about anything out there. It all depends on
what's installed on the computer, how well the computer is setup, (hardware
drivers etc.) and just plain bad or good luck.

Corrie