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Fact: activation and validation assumes that a paying customer is a thief
unless he or she proves otherwise. Paying customers are the only ones who
will have problems with actiavation and validation and will be unjustly
accused of being a thief if there is a problem.

It's not a fact at all, it's a false belief that you hope honest people
will fall for - no one is assuming they are thieves.

I have yet to experience a problem with Activation and can't speak about a
BETA validation product that's not on RTM status yet.
Fact: Crackers and people who use cracked XP software/license do not have to
prove anything and can merrily use their software on as many machines as
they like and not have to jump through one single hoop.

Again, partially true - many cracked copies of XP still required a
activation key and that will come back to haunt them.
Fact: That's not right and you know it and nobody needs to google it to
prove it.

Again - wrong. Activation does not indicate anyone is anything, you're
making up sh|t to get things stirred up for your own means.
 
Leythos said:
How many attacks on US soil have
you seen since we started this?

One, it happened on November 5th, 2004 when the cowboy stole the election
again. This attack may well bring the US empire to an end. And who's to say
that Bush wasn't behind 9/11. He couldn't have asked for anything better to
jump start his flagging presidency.
 
Leythos said:
It's not a fact at all, it's a false belief that you hope honest people
will fall for - no one is assuming they are thieves.

I have yet to experience a problem with Activation and can't speak about a
BETA validation product that's not on RTM status yet.

Hey, don't you read this newsgroup!? People have posted problems with
activation many times here!
Again, partially true - many cracked copies of XP still required a
activation key and that will come back to haunt them.

I've seen a few and the ones I've seen have no activation key, no product
key, just slip the CD in and you're off to races. No little bubble saying 30
days.
Again - wrong. Activation does not indicate anyone is anything, you're
making up sh|t to get things stirred up for your own means.

Yes, it does. I paid for the product (as MS calls it). Now I have to go
online and prove it not once but twice. If MS thinks I stole it, they should
do what normal people do, call the police and have me arrested for theft and
let the judge, not MS, decide.

Alias
 
Iraq wasn't killing Americians. Learn about things before you talk.

Sure, and the people that were in Iraq (not necessarily Iraqi citizens),
supported by the Iraqi leadership, didn't have anything to do with anyone
being killed anywhere either.

I know a lot more about it than you appear too.

[snip history]
And as I said the Iraqi terrorists were financed by Iran, America,
Israel, and various Islamic groups. The Kurds had heir own civil wars in
the no fly zones as well. All terrorists were protected by America
including anti americian terrorists. But most were anti Iraq only.

If you look at the post Gulf War era, only Russia, China, France and
Germany and the UN funded terrorists in Iraq (and other terrorist
groups/countries).
Syria has a history of screwing Iraq and Sadaam. In the Iran - Iraq war
Iraq built an oil pipeline across Syria. The Syrians stole all the oil.
I can't see Sadaam trusting them (he wouldn't cross the border for
instance).

What you can see in an Opinion and what was on film/images from recon are
different things.
 
Hey, don't you read this newsgroup!? People have posted problems with
activation many times here!

Yep, I read them, and with the exception of OEM migrations to new machines
or OEM migrations to new hardware I don't see many complaints - and
considering the installed base, it's at the point of being a non-issue.
I've seen a few and the ones I've seen have no activation key, no product
key, just slip the CD in and you're off to races. No little bubble saying 30
days.

I've seen quite a few cracked copies, mostly the Volume License ones, but
they still have to pass validation in order to get updates sooner or later.
Yes, it does. I paid for the product (as MS calls it). Now I have to go
online and prove it not once but twice. If MS thinks I stole it, they should
do what normal people do, call the police and have me arrested for theft and
let the judge, not MS, decide.

Nope, you're just looking at it in the wrong frame of mind - no one is
even hinting that you are a thief (unless you are), you just choose to
make a big deal out of MS trying to protect it's assets and sales.

Activation was around before MS started with it - have you complained
about those companies?
 
One, it happened on November 5th, 2004 when the cowboy stole the election
again. This attack may well bring the US empire to an end. And who's to say
that Bush wasn't behind 9/11. He couldn't have asked for anything better to
jump start his flagging presidency.

Alias, only a complete psychotic moron would even suggest the above. Maybe
if you cared about more than just your tin-foil hat and friends that
believe in aliens you might be able to live in the real world.

So, have you decided to complain to WalMart for their marketing Windows in
a manner that causes the customer to be screwed? If you're not part of the
solution then you're part of the problem.
 
Leythos said:
Nope, as I was prior service and had learned about him years before he ran
for office, it was very telling that he would not release his DD214 that
would clearly show his discharge date and status. Since only those Ashamed
of their discharge status (those with less than honorable discharges) have
a reason to hide it, it really makes you wonder about him. There were also
numerous reports from his own camp/words that indicate it was a traitor to
his own country and the men that served with him.

Kerry was discharged with honors, not with your experienced historical
spins. At least he did 2 years, 4months of which was actual combat duty, and
he VOLUNTEERED for service, and wasn;t drafted, though he was born to a
wealthier Family than the Bush family.
Why don't you hold a few of the Swift Boat Vets to task to give up their
Bronze Stars, as they admitted they were in the same fight Kerry said he
was, where he got the same medal, where they state it never happened. They
didn't give them back.

What about Bush evading Nam because he had rich influential friends and
family, get him pushed to the front of the line for National Guard duty
(which then precluded having to go to Nam). Why did he (during some of his
duty) campaign for a fellow Rep in Fla, in "72" during duty time? Why did he
miss med exams, to be left out from flying certain jet fighters? Is that
honorable, that a man get prioritized through channels to avoid going to
war, while there may have been another (family) man who died in Nam in his
stead!

He didn't serve honorably (IMHO), and he has been a failure at any business
he started, and he couldn't think his way out of a burning phone booth
without the help of his friends.
Did you miss the 10 years of sanctions that were imposed where we could do
little of anything?

What about the ten years prior where we sold him weapons, technology, gave
him logistics on Iranian deployments.
Did you miss the part about the truck convoys that
left Iraq for Syria from military and commercial installations in the days
before we went in this time?

So? Where is the proof they had WMDs, or that Syria really has them now from
those truckloads, did you see satellite images, or just what the WH stated?
Did you miss all the French and German munitions, large types, that were
brought into Iraq during the sanction period?

So? Did you miss the part where I stated we gave him supplies also, or is
that riding against your support of a war that has turned out to be one of
excuses and spins, because you follow your timid leader's words, no matter.
You sure ignore that part, and I love that photo op of Rummy with Saddam in
"86"!
They protected the Water plants, the electrical plants, the major
infrastructure processing plants - you just got the news reports about the
Oil Ministry over and over because it makes great hype. The OM was NOT the
first thing being protected.


I thing, based on what I've seen, we've deployed as many troops as the
mission would tolerate and based on how much heat we take from our own
sheep like citizens, it was about right. How many attacks on US soil have
you seen since we started this?

LOL, and we still don't have Osama. We could have gone in there with the
same tropt and equipment deployemnt we did in Iraq, and that would have been
settled much faster, and more than likely, with ther capture of Osama and
his primary lieutenants.
 
of course you are free to do what you want, and i don't mean any
disrespect, but you have been mired in this flame war for about 6 hours
now. Leythos, your time and breath is much more valuable than to wasted
with this psychopath. you know that you never will convert somebody who
is so mentally sick that he considers the possibility that

"... who's to say that Bush wasn't behind 9/11. He couldn't have asked
for anything better to jump start his flagging presidency."

Yea, but once in a while I have to let the trolls have some fun and see
where they take it. I can't be technical 24/7, once in a while I have to
let what's left of my hair down :-)
 
of course you are free to do what you want, and i don't mean any
disrespect, but you have been mired in this flame war for about 6 hours
now. Leythos, your time and breath is much more valuable than to wasted
with this psychopath. you know that you never will convert somebody who
is so mentally sick that he considers the possibility that

"... who's to say that Bush wasn't behind 9/11. He couldn't have asked
for anything better to jump start his flagging presidency."
 
Kerry was discharged with honors, not with your experienced historical
spins. At least he did 2 years, 4months of which was actual combat duty, and
he VOLUNTEERED for service, and wasn;t drafted, though he was born to a
wealthier Family than the Bush family.

Try again, prove he was discharged with Honors - you can't find any public
record and he won't show the 214, so you have no proof that he was.

And he didn't expect to be in combat, by his own story, and he got out by
PUTTING HIMSELF IN FOR THE PURPLE HEART WHILE ON DUTY, which only people
looking for a way out did. He planned the out very well and made sure that
his paper cuts didn't hurt him to bad.

I have no respect for the traitor.
 
Leythos said:
Yep, I read them, and with the exception of OEM migrations to new
machines or OEM migrations to new hardware I don't see many
complaints - and considering the installed base, it's at the point of
being a non-issue.


I've seen quite a few cracked copies, mostly the Volume License ones,
but they still have to pass validation in order to get updates sooner
or later.


Nope, you're just looking at it in the wrong frame of mind - no one is
even hinting that you are a thief (unless you are), you just choose to
make a big deal out of MS trying to protect it's assets and sales.

Activation was around before MS started with it - have you complained
about those companies?

Straw man. PA in Windows locks you out of your entire system including
other software.

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Leythos said:
Yea, but once in a while I have to let the trolls have some fun and
see where they take it. I can't be technical 24/7, once in a while I
have to let what's left of my hair down :-)

You aren't bald?

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Leythos said:
Try again, prove he was discharged with Honors - you can't find any public
record and he won't show the 214, so you have no proof that he was.

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Honorable_Discharge_From_Reserve.pdf

Though I cannot find it officially, it was no state secret that Kerry
officially got an Honorable Discharge in March, 2001 from the Pentagon.
Honorable is Honorable, if you see Bush as serving Honorably, though records
of a 6 month period of his duty is somehow not available, and he states
simply that he served.
And he didn't expect to be in combat, by his own story, and he got out by
PUTTING HIMSELF IN FOR THE PURPLE HEART WHILE ON DUTY, which only people
looking for a way out did. He planned the out very well and made sure that
his paper cuts didn't hurt him to bad.

He's not a traitor, you need to prove the 214 thingie, not I, and he got 3
Purple hearts, not one. Whether he expected to be or not to be in combat is
irrelevant, he did do it though. Many men don't expect to be in combat, that
were in his position, but they had it anyway, so are they traitors for
having thoughts? He got his PHs from his superiors, and through the proper
methods. A wound is a wound, so tell your crap to others that served
honorably, that got PH(s) for paper cuts also, I bet you don't!
 
Leythos said:
Try again, prove he was discharged with Honors - you can't find any
public record and he won't show the 214, so you have no proof that he
was.

And he didn't expect to be in combat, by his own story, and he got
out by PUTTING HIMSELF IN FOR THE PURPLE HEART WHILE ON DUTY, which
only people looking for a way out did. He planned the out very well
and made sure that his paper cuts didn't hurt him to bad.

I have no respect for the traitor.

LOL! Prove that Kerry put himself in for the Purple Heart! That was
yet another Stinkboat lie.

I have no respect for idiots that put down a Vietnam Vet who saw real
combat, while having no problem with Bush failing to do his duty and
show up for a routine physical back in Texas.

Kerry went to Vietnam, and Bush couldn't take a physical in Texas, and
then ran off to Alabama, where no one remembers him showing up for duty
at all!

Please don't think you are gonna get away with you Stinkboat lies again!

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kurttrail said:
LOL! Prove that Kerry put himself in for the Purple Heart! That was yet
another Stinkboat lie.

I have no respect for idiots that put down a Vietnam Vet who saw real
combat, while having no problem with Bush failing to do his duty and show
up for a routine physical back in Texas.

Kerry went to Vietnam, and Bush couldn't take a physical in Texas, and
then ran off to Alabama, where no one remembers him showing up for duty at
all!

Please don't think you are gonna get away with you Stinkboat lies again!

Funny thing here is; people like Lamethos feel that decrying the Nam war, as
Kerry did, as he was also a soldier, is somehow a triator, and he (they)
should keep their mouths shut. But in the same breath, it is OK to kill
Iraqis on the premise that we are spreading freedom (the new spin). Funny
Kerry and Lamethos (as he said he did) did military time to protect our
freedoms, but it is unacceptable to have those freedoms to decry what you
didn't like! It was Kerry's right to freedom of speech that he is somehow a
traitor to freedoms, Bwahahahah!
 
i see what you're saying.
hope you had a nice weekend.

It was too short again :) Hope yours was good too.
p.s. i'm guessing you're nearly bald by now.

Being the oldest Son I still have more hair than my brothers, and I'm also
better looking :

Actually, I run several workstations at the same desk during the day, so I
was actually VPN'd into two different clients updating their mail servers
and anti-spam rules for most of that time. I just switch over to the
trolls when I need a break - almost like some people cigarette breaks :)
 
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Honorable_Discharge_From_Reserve.pdf

Though I cannot find it officially, it was no state secret that Kerry
officially got an Honorable Discharge in March, 2001 from the Pentagon.
Honorable is Honorable, if you see Bush as serving Honorably, though records
of a 6 month period of his duty is somehow not available, and he states
simply that he served.

You can't find record of it because the Military does not public DD-214's
and Kerry didn't want his public. Kerry was discharged in 76 if I recall
correctly, if he says the date is 2001 on his Honorable then it's a change
to his original status - his record on-file for his actual discharge would
indicate a true discharge data of 1976, not a changed discharge
disposition in 2001.
He's not a traitor, you need to prove the 214 thingie, not I, and he got 3
Purple hearts, not one. Whether he expected to be or not to be in combat is

Actually, I don't need to prove anything, no Vet, myself included, that
got an Honorable discharge after service would feel any reason to hide
their DD-214 from the public when seeking a public office.

Yes, I know he got 3 of them, and he put himself in for ALL THREE OF THEM.
irrelevant, he did do it though. Many men don't expect to be in combat,
that were in his position, but they had it anyway, so are they traitors
for having thoughts? He got his PHs from his superiors, and through the
proper methods. A wound is a wound, so tell your crap to others that
served honorably, that got PH(s) for paper cuts also, I bet you don't!

No, his actions don't say the same as his peers thoughts - his peers
didn't skip out by purposely dishonoring the purple heart medal. His
superiors DID NOT, and not one of them says they did, put him in for the
purple heart awards. A wound is only a wound if you need medical attention
and it take you out of action for any length of time - a scratch, while it
may count as a wound, if self inflicted is not really an wound, it's a
scam like most of his statements and actions in those days.

I was injured in the line of duty a number of times, even have a couple
scars to show for it, almost lost my life one time, but I never considered
it any more than just another days work and never asked for any special
treatment or any medals for it either. From what Kerry has said about his
injuries most people that spend 6 months state side in the Air Force have
more serious injuries than he did....

I have no problems with Honorable Vets, or even ones that didn't get an
Honorable discharge, but I do have a problem with a Public Servant trying
to use his dishonor to win votes and to hide his discharge from the public
he wants support from. Kerry was not given a honorable discharge, it's not
on file, and if you manage to find something dated other than 1976, it was
an amended discharge that was part of an Amnesty action by Carter for
people that skipped out to Canada and such, which didn't happen in 1976
either.

Now, when you get some facts come back and state them.

Fact: Kerry won't release his official service discharge paper-work from
76.

Fact: Kerry put himself in for the Purple Hearts - his own words.

Fact: Kerry worked against the people he served with in propaganda
messages to the world through enemy meetings. Kerry tells about this in
his own writings, and he's proud of it.

Fact: Kerry has nothing to stand for and believes in nothing except what
the particular group he's speaking to wants to hear, even when it
contradicts the speech/talks he game to the prior group the week before.
 
There were reports of scattered shooting incidents on the border in 1972,

and Iraq expelled some 74,000 Iranians from Iraq and increased its financial

support to the opponents of the Shah. Iran retaliated by starting a massive

covert action program in coordination with the CIA to aid Kurdish insurgents in

Northern Iraq. This effort proved to be extremely successful, largely because of

the inability of the Ba'athist regime to make intelligent compromises with the

Kurds. The resulting battles seriously hurt Iraq financially and militarily, but

scarcely crippled it. It was the outbreak of the October War in 1973, however,

that virtually forced Iraq to secure its Eastern flank. The day the October War

broke out, Iraq proposed resuming diplomatic relations with Iran, and relations

were resumed on October 15, 1973.

This is from Anthony Cordsman, who is reviewing Americian strategy in Iraq NOW for War Criminal Bush. It goes on like this year after year. As you are too lazy to do your own research and as you have a closed mind there is a limit of research I'll do for you. Anything I say my sources are usually the US military. Some of your soldiers are amazing. It's just the other million are idiots. Cordsman knows Sadaam too (on behalf of the US government).
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Leythos said:
Iraq wasn't killing Americians. Learn about things before you talk.

Sure, and the people that were in Iraq (not necessarily Iraqi citizens),
supported by the Iraqi leadership, didn't have anything to do with anyone
being killed anywhere either.

I know a lot more about it than you appear too.

[snip history]
And as I said the Iraqi terrorists were financed by Iran, America,
Israel, and various Islamic groups. The Kurds had heir own civil wars in
the no fly zones as well. All terrorists were protected by America
including anti americian terrorists. But most were anti Iraq only.

If you look at the post Gulf War era, only Russia, China, France and
Germany and the UN funded terrorists in Iraq (and other terrorist
groups/countries).
Syria has a history of screwing Iraq and Sadaam. In the Iran - Iraq war
Iraq built an oil pipeline across Syria. The Syrians stole all the oil.
I can't see Sadaam trusting them (he wouldn't cross the border for
instance).

What you can see in an Opinion and what was on film/images from recon are
different things.
 

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