Nominations still being accepted for the MSMVPHOS!

[David Candy]

The Taliban were going to hand him over (a difficult task as he had an army).

 

[Leythos]

This is from Anthony Cordsman, who is reviewing Americian strategy in
Iraq NOW for War Criminal Bush. It goes on like this year after year. As
you are too lazy to do your own research and as you have a closed mind
there is a limit of research I'll do for you. Anything I say my sources
are usually the US military. Some of your soldiers are amazing. It's
just the other million are idiots. Cordsman knows Sadaam too (on behalf
of the US government).

What does that have to do with all the satellite images of truck convoys
leaving Iraq and entering Syria only as the last few days were upon Saddam?

My research is limited to the Military information I have access to and
from talking with people that are not political that have been in select
locations. I do not utilize TV media as factual information as I've seen
completely the opposite while I was in the service myself.

 

[Tom]

The Taliban refused to hand him over, unless they made a change right up to
before the invasion of Afghanistan.

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
The Taliban were going to hand him over (a difficult task as he had an
army).

 

[David Candy]

You said "... only Russia, China, France and Germany and the UN funded terrorists in Iraq ..."

The US said in my quote that Iran and Americia funded terrorists.

 

[David Candy]

For the first time, the Taliban offered to hand over Bin Laden for trial in a country
other than the US without asking to see evidence first in return for a ....
www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/ story/0,1361,575593,00.html

So will the US hand over the criminal bush just because, say, the Sudan asks?
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The Taliban refused to hand him over, unless they made a change right up to
before the invasion of Afghanistan.

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
The Taliban were going to hand him over (a difficult task as he had an
army).

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:11:38 -0500, Tom wrote:

[snip]
As a registered independent I
don't see where there were any real problems with the voting. The only
problem I have is that Kerry lied about his service, lied about
everything, and that the media still backed him.

Ah, you were sold on the "Swift Boat Veterans" ads eh, LMAO!

Nope, as I was prior service and had learned about him years before he
ran
for office, it was very telling that he would not release his DD214 that
would clearly show his discharge date and status. Since only those
Ashamed
of their discharge status (those with less than honorable discharges)
have
a reason to hide it, it really makes you wonder about him. There were
also
numerous reports from his own camp/words that indicate it was a traitor
to
his own country and the men that served with him.

Kerry was discharged with honors, not with your experienced historical
spins. At least he did 2 years, 4months of which was actual combat duty,
and
he VOLUNTEERED for service, and wasn;t drafted, though he was born to a
wealthier Family than the Bush family.
Why don't you hold a few of the Swift Boat Vets to task to give up their
Bronze Stars, as they admitted they were in the same fight Kerry said he
was, where he got the same medal, where they state it never happened. They
didn't give them back.

What about Bush evading Nam because he had rich influential friends and
family, get him pushed to the front of the line for National Guard duty
(which then precluded having to go to Nam). Why did he (during some of his
duty) campaign for a fellow Rep in Fla, in "72" during duty time? Why did
he
miss med exams, to be left out from flying certain jet fighters? Is that
honorable, that a man get prioritized through channels to avoid going to
war, while there may have been another (family) man who died in Nam in his
stead!

He didn't serve honorably (IMHO), and he has been a failure at any
business
he started, and he couldn't think his way out of a burning phone booth
without the help of his friends.

Lying about WMDs and getting almost 2000 young Americans killed
invading
a
country that posed no threat is OK by you? Do you want the cowboy to
attack
Iran, Syria and North Korea too?

He didn't lie, in fact, if you look at the satellite images of all the
trucks leaving suspected areas and going to Syria you might learn
something - we did give them 30 days to move/hide everything. And you
don't consider saving the millions from being tortured/killed by Saddam
and his minions to be something worth doing?

Really? Where was this concern of removing that tyrant when he ACTUALLY
possessed WMDs, and used them on Iran, and his own citizens, while still
having enough fire power to invade other countries?? Funny the concern
is
only now. Oh, and by the way, it was determined during the congressional
hearings that Iraq WASN'T a training ground for terrorists (no more than
is
in Saudi Arabia, etals), that there was no found connection to Al-Qaeda.
And
many (seemingly other sheep like you) believed Iraq and Saddam were tied
to
9/11, but they weren't as was ADMITTED by Cheney.

Did you miss the 10 years of sanctions that were imposed where we could
do
little of anything?

What about the ten years prior where we sold him weapons, technology, gave
him logistics on Iranian deployments.

Did you miss the part about the truck convoys that
left Iraq for Syria from military and commercial installations in the
days
before we went in this time?

So? Where is the proof they had WMDs, or that Syria really has them now
from
those truckloads, did you see satellite images, or just what the WH
stated?

Did you miss all the French and German munitions, large types, that were
brought into Iraq during the sanction period?

So? Did you miss the part where I stated we gave him supplies also, or is
that riding against your support of a war that has turned out to be one of
excuses and spins, because you follow your timid leader's words, no
matter.
You sure ignore that part, and I love that photo op of Rummy with Saddam
in
"86"!

Also, don't you find it odd the first thing they protected in Baghdad,
was
the Oil Ministry, while stockpiles of grenade/rocktet launchers, and
hand
weapon galore went into the hands of the insurgents.. It was about OIL,
not

They protected the Water plants, the electrical plants, the major
infrastructure processing plants - you just got the news reports about
the
Oil Ministry over and over because it makes great hype. The OM was NOT
the
first thing being protected.

removing a tyrant, because we sure didn't deploy the needed amount of
men and logistics to go after Osama in Afghanistan, where the 9/11 perps
actually resided, and still do (or in Pakistan).

I thing, based on what I've seen, we've deployed as many troops as the
mission would tolerate and based on how much heat we take from our own
sheep like citizens, it was about right. How many attacks on US soil have
you seen since we started this?

LOL, and we still don't have Osama. We could have gone in there with the
same tropt and equipment deployemnt we did in Iraq, and that would have
been
settled much faster, and more than likely, with ther capture of Osama and
his primary lieutenants.

 

[Tom]

You can't find record of it because the Military does not public DD-214's
and Kerry didn't want his public. Kerry was discharged in 76 if I recall
correctly, if he says the date is 2001 on his Honorable then it's a change
to his original status - his record on-file for his actual discharge would
indicate a true discharge data of 1976, not a changed discharge
disposition in 2001.


Actually, I don't need to prove anything, no Vet, myself included, that
got an Honorable discharge after service would feel any reason to hide
their DD-214 from the public when seeking a public office.

Yes, I know he got 3 of them, and he put himself in for ALL THREE OF THEM.

LOL, he didn't put himself in for them, his superiors have to do that, and
then award them. Prove it, show me where he put himself in for those medals.

No, his actions don't say the same as his peers thoughts - his peers
didn't skip out by purposely dishonoring the purple heart medal. His
superiors DID NOT, and not one of them says they did, put him in for the
purple heart awards. A wound is only a wound if you need medical attention
and it take you out of action for any length of time - a scratch, while it
may count as a wound, if self inflicted is not really an wound, it's a
scam like most of his statements and actions in those days.

Again, like how you decribe word to mean other things is something only you
know what they mean. The military obviously gave Kerry his medals for the
reasons prescribed, so they are valed, regardless what you consider to be
having to have medical attention or not.

I was injured in the line of duty a number of times, even have a couple
scars to show for it, almost lost my life one time, but I never considered
it any more than just another days work and never asked for any special
treatment or any medals for it either. From what Kerry has said about his
injuries most people that spend 6 months state side in the Air Force have
more serious injuries than he did....

Who cares man! You want compare injuries, and you can't. It is like saying
people who are wounded more seriously should get a higher regard for their
service! WTF kind of thinking is that? When one is in combat, you get
wounded or you don't, but it doesn't take away from the combat status.

I have no problems with Honorable Vets, or even ones that didn't get an
Honorable discharge, but I do have a problem with a Public Servant trying
to use his dishonor to win votes and to hide his discharge from the public
he wants support from.Kerry was not given a honorable discharge, it's not
on file, and if you manage to find something dated other than 1976, it was
an amended discharge that was part of an Amnesty action by Carter for
people that skipped out to Canada and such, which didn't happen in 1976
either.

He was given an honorable discharge, cased closed, I showed you the document
dated 1978, and it was made official in 2001. You either respect or you
Honorable Discharges.

By the way, are you going to say Bush served honorably, though YOU KNOW he
skated out of doing Nam through connection to get himself ramped up to the
front of the line for eligibility for NG service, and that he was in Alabama
doing things not pertaining to NG duty.. Does that somehow denegrate your
service too?

Here is some info on that:
http://www.factcheck.org/article140.html

Now, when you get some facts come back and state them.

Fact: Kerry won't release his official service discharge paper-work from
76.

So, Bush cannot verufy his records of his (supposed) complete NG service,
but his word is OK?

Fact: Kerry put himself in for the Purple Hearts - his own words.

Prove it, other than the ads you see. By the way, did you see one of the
interviews where one of the soldiers that was with Kerry during one
particular, who claimed the battle didn't happen? This guy stated this
battle didn't happen, but Kerry got a Bronze Star for it, for pulling
afellow soldier from the water to safety during the gunfire. But this same
guy got a Bronze Star medal for that very same battle (that didn't happen.
He was asked why now, and why didn't he give the medal back, or turn it down
when it was to be awarded, he stated, He didn't why".

Fact: Kerry worked against the people he served with in propaganda
messages to the world through enemy meetings. Kerry tells about this in
his own writings, and he's proud of it.

So, don't we have freedoms, or are they limited to what you feel freedoms
should be? By the way, use age of the term "enemy meeting" is disingenuous
on your part. He didn't meet with the (then) enemy for helping them, but to
help resolve the conflict (as I understood it).

Fact: Kerry has nothing to stand for and believes in nothing except what
the particular group he's speaking to wants to hear, even when it
contradicts the speech/talks he game to the prior group the week before.

And then there is you!

 

[Tom]

Hmm, now I recall, thanks for that.

But I do like your rhetorical question though. <hehe>

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
For the first time, the Taliban offered to hand over Bin Laden for trial in
a country
other than the US without asking to see evidence first in return for a ...
www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/ story/0,1361,575593,00.html

So will the US hand over the criminal bush just because, say, the Sudan
asks?
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The Taliban refused to hand him over, unless they made a change right up
to
before the invasion of Afghanistan.

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
The Taliban were going to hand him over (a difficult task as he had an
army).

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On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 19:11:38 -0500, Tom wrote:

[snip]
As a registered independent I
don't see where there were any real problems with the voting. The only
problem I have is that Kerry lied about his service, lied about
everything, and that the media still backed him.

Ah, you were sold on the "Swift Boat Veterans" ads eh, LMAO!

Nope, as I was prior service and had learned about him years before he
ran
for office, it was very telling that he would not release his DD214 that
would clearly show his discharge date and status. Since only those
Ashamed
of their discharge status (those with less than honorable discharges)
have
a reason to hide it, it really makes you wonder about him. There were
also
numerous reports from his own camp/words that indicate it was a traitor
to
his own country and the men that served with him.

Kerry was discharged with honors, not with your experienced historical
spins. At least he did 2 years, 4months of which was actual combat duty,
and
he VOLUNTEERED for service, and wasn;t drafted, though he was born to a
wealthier Family than the Bush family.
Why don't you hold a few of the Swift Boat Vets to task to give up their
Bronze Stars, as they admitted they were in the same fight Kerry said he
was, where he got the same medal, where they state it never happened.
They
didn't give them back.

What about Bush evading Nam because he had rich influential friends and
family, get him pushed to the front of the line for National Guard duty
(which then precluded having to go to Nam). Why did he (during some of
his
duty) campaign for a fellow Rep in Fla, in "72" during duty time? Why did
he
miss med exams, to be left out from flying certain jet fighters? Is that
honorable, that a man get prioritized through channels to avoid going to
war, while there may have been another (family) man who died in Nam in
his
stead!

He didn't serve honorably (IMHO), and he has been a failure at any
business
he started, and he couldn't think his way out of a burning phone booth
without the help of his friends.

Lying about WMDs and getting almost 2000 young Americans killed
invading
a
country that posed no threat is OK by you? Do you want the cowboy to
attack
Iran, Syria and North Korea too?

He didn't lie, in fact, if you look at the satellite images of all the
trucks leaving suspected areas and going to Syria you might learn
something - we did give them 30 days to move/hide everything. And you
don't consider saving the millions from being tortured/killed by
Saddam
and his minions to be something worth doing?

Really? Where was this concern of removing that tyrant when he ACTUALLY
possessed WMDs, and used them on Iran, and his own citizens, while
still
having enough fire power to invade other countries?? Funny the concern
is
only now. Oh, and by the way, it was determined during the
congressional
hearings that Iraq WASN'T a training ground for terrorists (no more
than
is
in Saudi Arabia, etals), that there was no found connection to
Al-Qaeda.
And
many (seemingly other sheep like you) believed Iraq and Saddam were
tied
to
9/11, but they weren't as was ADMITTED by Cheney.

Did you miss the 10 years of sanctions that were imposed where we could
do
little of anything?

What about the ten years prior where we sold him weapons, technology,
gave
him logistics on Iranian deployments.

Did you miss the part about the truck convoys that
left Iraq for Syria from military and commercial installations in the
days
before we went in this time?

So? Where is the proof they had WMDs, or that Syria really has them now
from
those truckloads, did you see satellite images, or just what the WH
stated?

Did you miss all the French and German munitions, large types, that were
brought into Iraq during the sanction period?

So? Did you miss the part where I stated we gave him supplies also, or is
that riding against your support of a war that has turned out to be one
of
excuses and spins, because you follow your timid leader's words, no
matter.
You sure ignore that part, and I love that photo op of Rummy with Saddam
in
"86"!

Also, don't you find it odd the first thing they protected in Baghdad,
was
the Oil Ministry, while stockpiles of grenade/rocktet launchers, and
hand
weapon galore went into the hands of the insurgents.. It was about OIL,
not

They protected the Water plants, the electrical plants, the major
infrastructure processing plants - you just got the news reports about
the
Oil Ministry over and over because it makes great hype. The OM was NOT
the
first thing being protected.

removing a tyrant, because we sure didn't deploy the needed amount of
men and logistics to go after Osama in Afghanistan, where the 9/11
perps
actually resided, and still do (or in Pakistan).

I thing, based on what I've seen, we've deployed as many troops as the
mission would tolerate and based on how much heat we take from our own
sheep like citizens, it was about right. How many attacks on US soil
have
you seen since we started this?

LOL, and we still don't have Osama. We could have gone in there with the
same tropt and equipment deployemnt we did in Iraq, and that would have
been
settled much faster, and more than likely, with ther capture of Osama and
his primary lieutenants.

 

[kurttrail]

Funny thing here is; people like Lamethos feel that decrying the Nam
war, as Kerry did, as he was also a soldier, is somehow a triator,
and he (they) should keep their mouths shut. But in the same breath,
it is OK to kill Iraqis on the premise that we are spreading freedom
(the new spin). Funny Kerry and Lamethos (as he said he did) did
military time to protect our freedoms, but it is unacceptable to have
those freedoms to decry what you didn't like! It was Kerry's right to
freedom of speech that he is somehow a traitor to freedoms,
Bwahahahah!

Yeah, and those like Lamethos are just conformists who would rather long
for an dictatorship than freedom.

He thinks MS words are handed down from God himself, and believes every
lie given to him by the Rightard leadership. It word be funny, except a
little more than half of the country voted for the Idiot Son, so it
pretty damn scarey that the liars were rewarded for their lies.

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[David Candy]

Gates isn't the greatest prophet, He is yet to come. But Gates will return on the Day of Sucess and and help the Messiah and computers will become user friendly. Saint Steve Balmer will guide us unworthies till then. But don't expect it in our time.

But there are challenges, the infidels of Linus. But Soldiers of Gates, we defeated the infidels of Lotus, the infidels of WordPerfect, and the infidels of Netscape.

One will arise among you, Yea, He shall carry the Cursor of Truth and wield it without mercy. He will be the greatest Prophet, from a cyber birth out of Melinda. Follow him, children of Gates and He will defeat Linus after Linus tempt him three times.



[Sorry for mixing my theologies here]

 

[Its only me]

Actually, I've walked the streets at night in all of those locations in
the last couple years, and never had a problem in any of them - even alo

What were you wearing? Your sisters mini dress and heels. How much did you make? Did it cover the cost of your license to use Microsoft products????????


For Christ's sake, girls, get a life.

 

[Kelly]

Oh my.....where did this thread begin and how did I miss it?

As per reading the top five posts, I agree with all said about David Candy.

--
All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com

 

[Its only me]

Iraq was sponsoring/harboring terrorists that kill Americans and other
countries innocent peoples. We didn't step in until it hit home. Same with
Afghanistan and then next with Syria, North Korea, and then China...


The IRA was, and still is, murdering people wholesale in Northern Ireland. You F*^king americans did the only thing you always do, YOU SUPPORTED THE BASTARDS and still do. Don't give me your propaganda. America is the biggest terrorist of all. Only reason you're in Iraq, Afganistan and want Iran, is because they have oil.

Now crawl back into whatever hole you crawled out of and I hope it caves in on you. PRICK!!!

 

[kurttrail]

Gates isn't the greatest prophet, He is yet to come. But Gates will
return on the Day of Sucess and and help the Messiah and computers
will become user friendly. Saint Steve Balmer will guide us
unworthies till then. But don't expect it in our time.

But there are challenges, the infidels of Linus. But Soldiers of
Gates, we defeated the infidels of Lotus, the infidels of
WordPerfect, and the infidels of Netscape.

One will arise among you, Yea, He shall carry the Cursor of Truth and
wield it without mercy. He will be the greatest Prophet, from a cyber
birth out of Melinda. Follow him, children of Gates and He will
defeat Linus after Linus tempt him three times.

Too Funny! Except I think there are people that actually may harbor
such thoughts.

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[kurttrail]

Oh my.....where did this thread begin and how did I miss it?

As per reading the top five posts, I agree with all said about David
Candy.

It's my fault. But I still haven't figure out how it descended into all
of this!

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[Kelly]

Yall fight accordingly, but my mention was for the Windows side of David's
brain. <w>

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Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com

 

[Alias]

How is that "mentally sick" except on the part of Bush?

Yea, but once in a while I have to let the trolls have some fun and see
where they take it. I can't be technical 24/7, once in a while I have to
let what's left of my hair down

You must admit that if an El Salvadorian can walk from El Salvador, cross
the US border and have a job waiting for him in LA and if he can do it broke
and with only clothes on his back, a terrorist could easily cross the
Mexican border what with having money, several changes of clothes, etc. and
attack at will. Hasn't happened. Most of the terrorists involved in 9/11
were Saudis. Does Bush attack Saudi Arabia? No. He attacks two countries
based on lies. I think Bush and Isreal were responsible for 9/11. They were
the only ones that had something to gain from 9/11. Had 9/11 not happened,
we would have a Democratic president right now and Bush would have gone down
in history as the most worthless president the US has ever had.

Who does the Patriot Act affect? How many innocent people has Bush rounded
up and locked up without legal counsel, bail or a trial? If Bush is willing
to trump the constitution of the USA and take away basic rights, he is
willing to sacrifice a few thousand lives in NYC to jump start his
presidency.

Alias

 

[Leythos]

You said "... only Russia, China, France and Germany and the UN funded
terrorists in Iraq ..."

The US said in my quote that Iran and Americia funded terrorists.

I also clearly said that I was speaking of the period from the Gulf War
forward.

 

[Leythos]

He was given an honorable discharge, cased closed, I showed you the document
dated 1978, and it was made official in 2001. You either respect or you
Honorable Discharges.

Don't you find it odd that, and I had my dates wrong I think, he was
discharged in 72, I think her service was 67-72, 6 years, so, as a matter
of record his paperwork should indicate 72. Only someone that's had their
service record changed would have a date after their EAOS.

If you check the facts, Carter was in office from 76-80 and Carter gave
amnesty to all the dishonorable and draft dodgers which meant their
service records were amended in the time period that you indicate above.
Not one previously HONORABLE discharge had to be amended to make it
HONORABLE.

Come on, you seem like a bright person, are you seeing the truth now.

Now you know why he won't release his records.

Before you try and explain how valiant and honorable he WAS and how his
medals stand, explain why any respectable service member that was given an
HONORABLE Discharge at the time of the separation would want to hide it.

 

[Leythos]

Does Bush attack Saudi Arabia? No. He attacks two countries
based on lies. I think Bush and Isreal were responsible for 9/11. They were
the only ones that had something to gain from 9/11. Had 9/11 not happened,
we would have a Democratic president right now and Bush would have gone down
in history as the most worthless president the US has ever had.

How about explaining that since the entire group of congress came out and
stated, publicly, that there were WMD's after they reviewed the same
material that Bush did, how about explaining how it was just BUSH? Since
the Congress believed it, since the Democrats and Republicans and everyone
else felt there were WMD's, why do you blame Bush - the entire government
voted to do this, it was not just one man alone - or did you miss all the
reports on CNN and such?

Who does the Patriot Act affect? How many innocent people has Bush rounded
up and locked up without legal counsel, bail or a trial? If Bush is willing
to trump the constitution of the USA and take away basic rights, he is
willing to sacrifice a few thousand lives in NYC to jump start his
presidency.

You're a sad little person if you really believe all of that. If we live
by your standard we would all be speaking German or Japanese or possibly
Russian right now. Freedom has never been free, it's always paid for with
blood, if you follow the world and history you will never see where true
freedom was free and you will never find a free society that didn't also
have rules and laws and the ability to invade privacy to protect the
masses.

 

[Alias]

Don't you find it odd that, and I had my dates wrong I think, he was
discharged in 72, I think her service was 67-72, 6 years, so, as a matter
of record his paperwork should indicate 72. Only someone that's had their
service record changed would have a date after their EAOS.

If you check the facts, Carter was in office from 76-80 and Carter gave
amnesty to all the dishonorable and draft dodgers which meant their
service records were amended in the time period that you indicate above.
Not one previously HONORABLE discharge had to be amended to make it
HONORABLE.

Come on, you seem like a bright person, are you seeing the truth now.

Now you know why he won't release his records.

Before you try and explain how valiant and honorable he WAS and how his
medals stand, explain why any respectable service member that was given an
HONORABLE Discharge at the time of the separation would want to hide it.

Just curious, what was *honorable* about the Viet Nam war? Did Viet Nam
attack the USA? No. Was it even a threat? No. Did the domino theory happen?
No. Were we fed lies then like we are being fed now about Iraq? Yes. War is
not honorable. War reflects the worst in human nature. Refusing to go to war
and not being a pawn for the masters of war is honorable. The only people
that deserve medals are the ones that refused to fight, kill and maim people
in that war and who protested on the streets of the USA and got the damn
thing stopped.

Alias