Nominations still being accepted for the MSMVPHOS!

[Alias]

How about explaining that since the entire group of congress came out and
stated, publicly, that there were WMD's after they reviewed the same
material that Bush did, how about explaining how it was just BUSH? Since
the Congress believed it, since the Democrats and Republicans and everyone
else felt there were WMD's, why do you blame Bush - the entire government
voted to do this, it was not just one man alone - or did you miss all the
reports on CNN and such?

What's that got to do with 9/11? I wasn't talking about Iraq.

You're a sad little person if you really believe all of that. If we live
by your standard we would all be speaking German or Japanese or possibly
Russian right now. Freedom has never been free, it's always paid for with
blood, if you follow the world and history you will never see where true
freedom was free and you will never find a free society that didn't also
have rules and laws and the ability to invade privacy to protect the
masses.

Straw man argument (look it up).

How many babies did you kill in Nam, warmonger?

Alias

 

[Leythos]

Just curious, what was *honorable* about the Viet Nam war? Did Viet Nam
attack the USA? No. Was it even a threat? No. Did the domino theory happen?
No. Were we fed lies then like we are being fed now about Iraq? Yes. War is
not honorable. War reflects the worst in human nature. Refusing to go to war
and not being a pawn for the masters of war is honorable. The only people
that deserve medals are the ones that refused to fight, kill and maim people
in that war and who protested on the streets of the USA and got the damn
thing stopped.

Is there are reason you replied with the above paragraph and failed to
reply to the question posed? I've seen you do this many times, you start
another track without answering ANY part of the posted question(s) when it
appears you've been backed into a corner with facts that dispute your
position. Nothing you posted above has anything to do with the fact that
Kerry was dishonorably discharged and then pardoned for it by Carter.

 

[Leythos]

What's that got to do with 9/11? I wasn't talking about Iraq.

Terrorists had everything to do with 9/11 or did you miss that in all the
media coverage? Terrorists have bases/camps/training locations in many
countries, or did you miss that too?

Straw man argument (look it up).

Nope, it's the truth, but you don't really want the truth because it would
mean you are wrong.

How many babies did you kill in Nam, warmonger?

I wasn't in Nam and I've not killed any babies that I know of. Killing to
protect freedom is how it's been done since the world began. You should
thank the people in your country willing to fight for your freedom.

 

[Susan]

What does this have to do with Windows XP?

Terrorists had everything to do with 9/11 or did you miss that in all the
media coverage? Terrorists have bases/camps/training locations in many
countries, or did you miss that too?


Nope, it's the truth, but you don't really want the truth because it would
mean you are wrong.


I wasn't in Nam and I've not killed any babies that I know of. Killing to
protect freedom is how it's been done since the world began. You should
thank the people in your country willing to fight for your freedom.

 

[Leythos]

What does this have to do with Windows XP?

Well, trolls, like terrorists desire to destroy things. There are several
trolls in these groups that seek only the destruction of them and/or MS
and it's methods.

Since the MSMVPHOS is actually an off-topic thread, what did you expect?

 

[Leythos]

Killing is not an enlightened way to do things.

It is when there is no alternative. Look at a rabid dog some time, it's
out of it's mind, wants to attack everything, has no concern for it's own
life.... The only solution is to kill it. Same with Terrorists and their
ilk.

 

[Alias]

Terrorists had everything to do with 9/11 or did you miss that in all the
media coverage? Terrorists have bases/camps/training locations in many
countries, or did you miss that too?

I agree, Bush is a terrorist, replete with the baddest WMDs on the planet.

Nope, it's the truth, but you don't really want the truth because it would
mean you are wrong.

Your speculation is changing the subject.

I wasn't in Nam and I've not killed any babies that I know of. Killing to
protect freedom is how it's been done since the world began. You should
thank the people in your country willing to fight for your freedom.

Killing is not an enlightened way to do things.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Is there are reason you replied with the above paragraph and failed to
reply to the question posed? I've seen you do this many times, you start
another track without answering ANY part of the posted question(s) when it
appears you've been backed into a corner with facts that dispute your
position. Nothing you posted above has anything to do with the fact that
Kerry was dishonorably discharged and then pardoned for it by Carter.

Nothing dishonorable about being against the war in Viet Nam. There is
nothing dishonorable about being anti war. Now, can you answer my questions
or not?

Alias

 

[Leythos]

Nothing dishonorable about being against the war in Viet Nam. There is
nothing dishonorable about being anti war. Now, can you answer my questions
or not?

I never said there was anything dishonorable about being against the war,
you're the one suggesting I said that.

Even though you won't answer my question I'll address what you posted
after I asked you. I don't consider anyone Honorable that refused to serve
once they were called - I also don't believe that people always make the
right choices and that they don't always have the full story/picture. As
I've seen many times, there are reasons to follow orders that you may not
understand, but in most cases you don't need to understand, just do your
mission as ordered. If everyone had to agree on everything we would end
up being just as ineffective as the U.N. is - and we've all seen that they
can't stop genocide, mass murders by governments, are filled with corrupt
people seeking their own end.....

I feel very comfortable with the idea of taking the fight to the enemy
before they reach our borders, since it doesn't make sense to let them hit
us on our home again. It's kind of funny watching people complain about
taking what they consider a preemptive action against the terrorists when
it's really a reaction to what they've done. It's also sad that many sheep
want to wait until the threat is directly on their door step against their
family before they are willing to take action - if you don't stop it
before it reaches your door you don't stand much of a chance at stopping
it at all.

So, you going to answer my questions now?

Here's the main question again for you:

Before you try and explain how valiant and honorable Kerry WAS and how his
medals stand, explain why any respectable service member that was given an
HONORABLE Discharge at the time of the separation would want to hide it.

If you can come up with a single valid reason, and you still think he was
honorably discharged (not the amended discharge during the Carter era
where Kerry was NOT still in the service), then you might want to open
your eyes and consider how things really work.

 

[Alias]

It is when there is no alternative. Look at a rabid dog some time, it's
out of it's mind, wants to attack everything, has no concern for it's own
life.... The only solution is to kill it. Same with Terrorists and their
ilk.

So -- and this is really my last reply to you -- when are you going to kill
George WMD Bush, the Terrorist?

Alias

 

[Leythos]

this is really my last reply to you

That was the only thing you've said that wasn't based on FUD. I sure hope
you live up to it.

 

[kurttrail]

I also clearly said that I was speaking of the period from the Gulf
War forward.

LOL! We are still supporting terrorists by helping the recruit more to
their ranks.

--
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Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
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"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

 

[Alias]

LOL! We are still supporting terrorists by helping the recruit more to
their ranks.

Osama bin Laden couldn't asked for a better recruiting tool than the illegal
war on Iraq and Afghanistan. Personally, I think Isreal and Bush were
responsible for 9-11 as they are the only ones that would benefit from it.
Instead of trying to cure the real cause -- poverty, idiots like Leythos
think that they should be killed like a rabid dog which is only playing into
the Osama bin Ladens of the world hand.

Alias

 

[Tom]

Yeah, and those like Lamethos are just conformists who would rather long
for an dictatorship than freedom.

He thinks MS words are handed down from God himself, and believes every
lie given to him by the Rightard leadership. It word be funny, except a
little more than half of the country voted for the Idiot Son, so it pretty
damn scarey that the liars were rewarded for their lies.

Yea, conformists like Lamethos will write a EULAgy for the death of Gates
*-).

 

[Tom]

Don't you find it odd that, and I had my dates wrong I think, he was
discharged in 72, I think her service was 67-72, 6 years, so, as a matter
of record his paperwork should indicate 72. Only someone that's had their
service record changed would have a date after their EAOS.

Kerry's service started (voluntarily) in "66".

If you check the facts, Carter was in office from 76-80 and Carter gave
amnesty to all the dishonorable and draft dodgers which meant their
service records were amended in the time period that you indicate above.
Not one previously HONORABLE discharge had to be amended to make it
HONORABLE.

So, Ford pardoned a criminal, that allowed him to keep some kind of honor,
but that is ok, since it is a presidential right to do so, as was Carters.
If you don't like it, then bitch at congress to change the president's power
in such cases.

Come on, you seem like a bright person, are you seeing the truth now.

Now you know why he won't release his records.

Do you know why Bush won't own up to being AWOL for 6 months, and cannot
(actually will not) provide records to show what he was doing, though he was
honorably discharged. You keep ignoring that by the way; so it honorable at
how Bush got away from Nam through power contacts while actually NOT doing
his total duty?

Before you try and explain how valiant and honorable he WAS and how his
medals stand, explain why any respectable service member that was given an
HONORABLE Discharge at the time of the separation would want to hide it.

I don't know, again, he got it regardless of yours or my dislike. The fact
remains he got it legally and it is honorable, refer to congress again for
changes. But you don't acknowledge whether or not our comedian and cheat
served honorably, though he got that type of discharge. You should be
appalled at him for avoiding (again through connections) real combat duty
based on how you hold such a high regard for those (as yourself) that have
been there.

 

[kurttrail]

Osama bin Laden couldn't asked for a better recruiting tool than the
illegal war on Iraq and Afghanistan. Personally, I think Isreal and
Bush were responsible for 9-11 as they are the only ones that would
benefit from it. Instead of trying to cure the real cause -- poverty,
idiots like Leythos think that they should be killed like a rabid dog
which is only playing into the Osama bin Ladens of the world hand.

As the 911 commision reported Bush didn't do anything prior to 911 to
stop it, eventhough receiving a PDB warning that an attack was imminent
possibly involving airplanes, a full month prior to 911.

So he was responsible for his administration's inaction in trying to
stop it.

Before 911 and the Iraqi War, Osama recruit his merry band of terrorists
to remove us from our Saudi bases. Now he has the Iraqi occupation and
the Bush administration's threats to invade other countries in the Arab
world.

Much like MS is the greatest security threat to the safety of the
Virtual World, the US under Bush is the greatest security threat to the
Real World. It's both their willingness and need to dominate their
respective worlds, that threatens the safety of us all.

--
Peace!
Kurt
Self-anointed Moderator
microscum.pubic.windowsexp.gonorrhea
http://microscum.com/mscommunity
"Trustworthy Computing" is only another example of an Oxymoron!
"Produkt-Aktivierung macht frei"

 

[Alias]

"kurttrail" wrote

As the 911 commision reported Bush didn't do anything prior to 911 to stop
it, eventhough receiving a PDB warning that an attack was imminent
possibly involving airplanes, a full month prior to 911.

So he was responsible for his administration's inaction in trying to stop
it.

He didn't want to stop it. His handlers knew how much he would benefit from
the attack. It's kind of like what Roosevelt didn't do regarding Pearl
Harbor.

Alias

 

[Tom]

How about explaining that since the entire group of congress came out and
stated, publicly, that there were WMD's after they reviewed the same
material that Bush did, how about explaining how it was just BUSH? Since
the Congress believed it, since the Democrats and Republicans and everyone
else felt there were WMD's, why do you blame Bush - the entire government
voted to do this, it was not just one man alone - or did you miss all the
reports on CNN and such?

LOL, congress just agrred to it based on what the Bush junta got for
intelligence. Note that Congress grilled those charges while Colin Powell
was proofing for a war footing. The evidence was provided by Bush intel
team, so you cannot fault them reall, accept they were duped.

You're a sad little person if you really believe all of that. If we live
by your standard we would all be speaking German or Japanese or possibly
Russian right now. Freedom has never been free, it's always paid for with
blood, if you follow the world and history you will never see where true
freedom was free and you will never find a free society that didn't also
have rules and laws and the ability to invade privacy to protect the
masses.

"There ought to be limits to freedoms"

"I'm a war president, I make decisions here in the Oval Office on foreign
policy matters with war on my mind, and the American people need to know
they got a president who sees the world the way it is."

"I reminded them that war in Iraq is really about peace."

GWB

 

[Tom]

Well, trolls, like terrorists desire to destroy things. There are several
trolls in these groups that seek only the destruction of them and/or MS
and it's methods.

Really, isn't calling other pirates and thieves a form of trolling?

Since the MSMVPHOS is actually an off-topic thread, what did you expect?

That you would continue on as usual!

 

[Leythos]

Instead of trying to cure the real cause -- poverty

You don't seem to understand that the leaders don't want their servants
being raised above the poverty level. It's easier to control the masses
when they are uneducated and have no money. Ossama has already said that
the western influence is corrupting his people...