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Leythos said:
And the simple fact is that the store that sold it didn't provide full
disclosure while MS does clearly provide it. Maybe you should be
complaining to the stores since they are the ones not providing the
information to the customers - MS clearly makes this information available
to any that ask/look for it.
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Microsoft sells direct? Since when? Those stores are representing Microsoft
and Microsoft doesn't do anything to correct them. It's called scamming.

Alias
 
Microsoft sells direct? Since when? Those stores are representing Microsoft
and Microsoft doesn't do anything to correct them. It's called scamming.
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There YOU go again, you bitch about people taking things out of context
and content, then you do it - I never said anything about MS selling
direct, but they actually do sell direct.

The store is the one doing the misrepresenting, MS has nothing to do with
it. Sort of like every other product anyone sells that they purchase from
a manufacturer - or are you just trolling against MS since you don't seem
to understand that WalMart chooses what to state/say on it's website?
 
Australia doesn't. It is prohibited by law after ASIS kidnapped a hotel of Australians in melbourne as a training exercise. The police weren't impressed with people running around melbourne with guns kidnapping people at random. The people kidnapped weren't impressed either. Noone was so they lost the power to conduct covert missions and can only spy.
 
The contract is between you and the store. MS is not involved. You can't bind third parties in contracts.
 
Tell that to José Barrionuevo and Rafael Vera who are doing time for heading
up killing squads to kill ETA members.
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Just because someone gets busted for a failed mission that had to have a
fall guy, it doesn't mean that it's not still happening. That example of
yours just proves the point - there are sanctioned kills carried out by
governments all over the world, have been, and will continue to be.
 
Leythos said:
Care to show me where to mentioned "Death Penalty"? You clearly stated
"Sanctioned Murder".
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Um, David Candy clearly stated that, not me.
If you intended to say "Death Penalty" you should
have said it - as one who so often complains about content of messages.
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I did.
Spain sanctions murder/eliminations all the time, you just don't see it
because you don't belong to the covert groups that are involved in it.
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Tell that to José Barrionuevo and Rafael Vera who are doing time for heading
up killing squads to kill ETA members.

Alias
 
That's what is said in the EULA, AFTER the fact of the sale of a copy of
software had already taken place.
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So go bitch to the software seller that didn't make this public
information available to the consumer - you can't blame MS for it, they DO
make it available to the public. Start going after the resellers of the
product for misleading the customers.
 
Colin said:
You were sold the licenses, not the software.
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That's what is said in the EULA, AFTER the fact of the sale of a copy of
software had already taken place.

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WHO LICENCES THE RESELLERS????
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Why does it matter? They reseller is the one responsible for SELLING THE
CUSTOMER THE PRODUCT. What part of that don't you understand?

Go after the company that is scamming the customer - the vendor that is
actually selling the product is NOT providing disclosure, MS provides this
information even though the vendor doesn't - see now?
 
Leythos said:
Just because someone gets busted for a failed mission that had to have a
fall guy, it doesn't mean that it's not still happening. That example of
yours just proves the point - there are sanctioned kills carried out by
governments all over the world, have been, and will continue to be.
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Can you prove your assertions? Fact is the USA has state sanctioned murder
and has murdered many innocent people and they do it in public and are proud
of it.

Disgusting.

Alias
 
Leythos said:
[snip]
Spain sanctions murder/eliminations all the time, you just don't see it
because you don't belong to the covert groups that are involved in it.

Tell that to José Barrionuevo and Rafael Vera who are doing time for
heading
up killing squads to kill ETA members.
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Just because someone gets busted for a failed mission that had to have a
fall guy, it doesn't mean that it's not still happening. That example of
yours just proves the point - there are sanctioned kills carried out by
governments all over the world, have been, and will continue to be.
Click to expand...

Can you prove your assertions? Fact is the USA has state sanctioned murder
and has murdered many innocent people and they do it in public and are proud
of it.

Disgusting.
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Many countries give the eye-for-an-eye treatment to criminals - and they
damn well deserve it. If you kill a mass murderer you are doing a public
service. Sure, there have always been mistakes, even with spain and other
countries, but I would rather live in a country that punished criminals
than one that rewards them.

Killing criminals is not quite the same as a sanctioned murder - they
imply different types of intent and action in most cases.

I can tell you know, if I were in law enforcement I would have no trouble
being part of the team that kills murders for their crimes. I've also
advocated going back to public hangings on the local state court-house
lawns with the bodies to remain in public view for at least 4 hours after
the hanging. In fact, if I could get back into the service and be part of
a team tracking down and exterminating terrorists I would volunteer in a
heart-beat.
 
Leythos said:
So, I don't understand you - you find an instance where WalMart, like
other vendors is not providing full disclosure about a product that it
sells, where the product manufacturer does provide this information,
and you still want to slam the Manufacturer? Why are you not going
after WalMart, Sears, and the places that market the manufacturers
product incorrectly?

You've clearly pointed out a flaw in the sales model of many
companies, but not in Microsofts.
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Actually the deception is MS's by allowing the sale of copies of MS
software in Retail Stores, and then trying to rewrite history with a
post-sale shrink-wrap license.

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kurttrail said:
I had a MVP nominate himself, so any MVP that wants or needs to be
inducted into the Microscum MVP Hall of Shame, please feel free to
drop me an email!

So without any further ado, the newest inductee to the Microscum MVP
Hall of Shame, by his own request, is:

Robert Moir - MicroMoron!
http://microscum.com/rmoir/

Congratulations Robert!
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Finally an award to be proud of!

rob
 
Maybe it should work this way. You just download the Windows
XP install media yourself (Any flavor). When you want to install &
use it - buy the Product Key, you need.
What you're purchasing isn't the disk with the 1/0's on it. It's the
license that enables you to use it. When you input that key - that's
when you have to "Agree" to Microsoft's terms of use. Right or
Wrong - Ethical or Not - it's their software and they can dictate it's
use.
That's why I think it's funny that the EULA acceptance step during
the XP Setup has option box for "I accept" & "I Do Not accept"
option. I've never checked the "I Don't" option, but maybe should
try it one time to see what happens.
Better yet, Microsoft should change the product packaging.
Instead of Microsoft Windows XP Professional or Home it says..
"Microsoft Windows XP -Single PC License", includes install media.
 
Actually the deception is MS's by allowing the sale of copies of MS
software in Retail Stores, and then trying to rewrite history with a
post-sale shrink-wrap license.
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The information is PUBLIC for anyone to see, it's not hidden, and after
all of these years it's only the public's fault for not knowing. The
resellers are to blame for marketing something as something else.
 
kurttrail said:
That's what is said in the EULA, AFTER the fact of the sale of a copy of
software had already taken place.
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Don't forget to read the outside of the packaging, where it says the
same thing.


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WHO LICENCES THE RESELLERS????

Alias
Leythos said:
So go bitch to the software seller that didn't make this public
information available to the consumer - you can't blame MS for it, they DO
make it available to the public. Start going after the resellers of the
product for misleading the customers.
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