Nominations still being accepted for the MSMVPHOS!

[Leythos]

Let me see if I can make it clearer. Go to the web sites of Walmart,
Best Buy, Longhorn Ass Kicking Trailer Park Computers, Sears, whatever,
and try and find a place to click on to buy a licence. You will ONLY
find a place to click on called "software". For some reason, when people
click on that and add XP Home to their shopping cart, they think they
are buying SOFTWARE. Do you understand me now or do you need me to go a
little slower?

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/prod...=3954&type=19&dept=3944&path=0:3944:3951:3954

Seems to me that WalMart is making the XP information quite clear to
anyone that can read. They even provide the link to the System Builders
Site for licensing information!

below is an excerpt copied directly from the WalMart site:

Microsoft XP Pro IS designed for businesses of any size and individuals
upgrading from Windows 98 SE, Me, NT 4.0 or 2000 Professional.

* This OEM version is intended for system builders only and cannot be
transferred to another PC once it is installed. * The purchaser of
this software is required to comply with the terms of the System
Builder license , including the responsibility of providing all end
user support for the software. * includes 2-button mouse

 

[David Candy]

Hoy, sport yourself. Don't use Australian words if you aren't.

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I have a degree in English from the University of Texas Arlington and my
comprehension skills are fine.

You learned English in The Republic of Texas? No wonder you have a problem!

If you install software without reading through the EULA then the problem
is not comprehension, but reading at all.

Huh? I didn't say anything about reading or clicking through the scammy
EULA, now did I, sport? Please try to respond to content, not what you think
I typed. Can you do it?

Let me see if I can make it clearer. Go to the web sites of Walmart, Best
Buy, Longhorn Ass Kicking Trailer Park Computers, Sears, whatever, and try
and find a place to click on to buy a licence. You will ONLY find a place to
click on called "software". For some reason, when people click on that and
add XP Home to their shopping cart, they think they are buying SOFTWARE. Do
you understand me now or do you need me to go a little slower?

Alias

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Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
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If you can read the website, you can read the EULA. If you just click
through it during an install, that's your issue.

Huh? I didn't say anything about reading or clicking through the scammy
EULA, now did I, sport? Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Is
English not your first language? The web sites I was referring to and I
made it clear by typing *computer web sites" say *software*, not
"licences". Yaknow, the ones that sell Microsoft *Software*?
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Alias



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Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
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You were sold the licenses, not the software.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
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We know about the licencing scam. It's a scam. It's highway robbery.
EVERY computer web site says "software", not "licences".

Alias

 

[Alias]

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/prod...=3954&type=19&dept=3944&path=0:3944:3951:3954

From the same page "You are here: Home Page › Electronics › Computers ›
Software"

It also states: The purchaser of this *software*.

This page says nothing about a licence
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/prod...dept=3944&path=0:3944:3951:3954&xsell=1957319

I rest my case. How many Walmart clerks explain anything but "that will be
$119.98. please"?

 

[Alias]

To which "Australian" word are you referring, sport?

Alias

"David Candy" <.> wrote

Hoy, sport yourself. Don't use Australian words if you aren't.

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I have a degree in English from the University of Texas Arlington and my
comprehension skills are fine.

You learned English in The Republic of Texas? No wonder you have a
problem!

If you install software without reading through the EULA then the
problem
is not comprehension, but reading at all.

Huh? I didn't say anything about reading or clicking through the scammy
EULA, now did I, sport? Please try to respond to content, not what you
think
I typed. Can you do it?

Let me see if I can make it clearer. Go to the web sites of Walmart, Best
Buy, Longhorn Ass Kicking Trailer Park Computers, Sears, whatever, and try
and find a place to click on to buy a licence. You will ONLY find a place
to
click on called "software". For some reason, when people click on that and
add XP Home to their shopping cart, they think they are buying SOFTWARE.
Do
you understand me now or do you need me to go a little slower?

Alias

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

If you can read the website, you can read the EULA. If you just click
through it during an install, that's your issue.

Huh? I didn't say anything about reading or clicking through the scammy
EULA, now did I, sport? Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Is
English not your first language? The web sites I was referring to and I
made it clear by typing *computer web sites" say *software*, not
"licences". Yaknow, the ones that sell Microsoft *Software*?
--
Alias



--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)


You were sold the licenses, not the software.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

We know about the licencing scam. It's a scam. It's highway robbery.
EVERY computer web site says "software", not "licences".

Alias

 

[David Candy]

Sport, sport.

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To which "Australian" word are you referring, sport?

Alias

"David Candy" <.> wrote

Hoy, sport yourself. Don't use Australian words if you aren't.

--
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http://www.microscum.com/mscommunity/

I have a degree in English from the University of Texas Arlington and my
comprehension skills are fine.

You learned English in The Republic of Texas? No wonder you have a
problem!

If you install software without reading through the EULA then the
problem
is not comprehension, but reading at all.

Huh? I didn't say anything about reading or clicking through the scammy
EULA, now did I, sport? Please try to respond to content, not what you
think
I typed. Can you do it?

Let me see if I can make it clearer. Go to the web sites of Walmart, Best
Buy, Longhorn Ass Kicking Trailer Park Computers, Sears, whatever, and try
and find a place to click on to buy a licence. You will ONLY find a place
to
click on called "software". For some reason, when people click on that and
add XP Home to their shopping cart, they think they are buying SOFTWARE.
Do
you understand me now or do you need me to go a little slower?

Alias

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)


If you can read the website, you can read the EULA. If you just click
through it during an install, that's your issue.

Huh? I didn't say anything about reading or clicking through the scammy
EULA, now did I, sport? Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Is
English not your first language? The web sites I was referring to and I
made it clear by typing *computer web sites" say *software*, not
"licences". Yaknow, the ones that sell Microsoft *Software*?
--
Alias



--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)


You were sold the licenses, not the software.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

We know about the licencing scam. It's a scam. It's highway robbery.
EVERY computer web site says "software", not "licences".

Alias

 

[Colin Barnhorst]

Flaming people for their cultural or educational backgrounds shows ignorance
on your part.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

I have a degree in English from the University of Texas Arlington and my
comprehension skills are fine.

You learned English in The Republic of Texas? No wonder you have a
problem!

If you install software without reading through the EULA then the
problem is not comprehension, but reading at all.

Huh? I didn't say anything about reading or clicking through the scammy
EULA, now did I, sport? Please try to respond to content, not what you
think I typed. Can you do it?

Let me see if I can make it clearer. Go to the web sites of Walmart, Best
Buy, Longhorn Ass Kicking Trailer Park Computers, Sears, whatever, and try
and find a place to click on to buy a licence. You will ONLY find a place
to click on called "software". For some reason, when people click on that
and add XP Home to their shopping cart, they think they are buying
SOFTWARE. Do you understand me now or do you need me to go a little
slower?

Alias

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

If you can read the website, you can read the EULA. If you just click
through it during an install, that's your issue.

Huh? I didn't say anything about reading or clicking through the scammy
EULA, now did I, sport? Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Is
English not your first language? The web sites I was referring to and I
made it clear by typing *computer web sites" say *software*, not
"licences". Yaknow, the ones that sell Microsoft *Software*?
--
Alias



--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)


You were sold the licenses, not the software.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

We know about the licencing scam. It's a scam. It's highway robbery.
EVERY computer web site says "software", not "licences".

Alias

 

[Leythos]

This page says nothing about a licence
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/prod...dept=3944&path=0:3944:3951:3954&xsell=1957319

I rest my case. How many Walmart clerks explain anything but "that will be
$119.98. please"?

So, I don't understand you - you find an instance where WalMart, like
other vendors is not providing full disclosure about a product that it
sells, where the product manufacturer does provide this information, and
you still want to slam the Manufacturer? Why are you not going after
WalMart, Sears, and the places that market the manufacturers product
incorrectly?

You've clearly pointed out a flaw in the sales model of many companies,
but not in Microsofts.

 

[David Candy]

Least spain doesn't have state sactioned murder.

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Flaming people for their cultural or educational backgrounds shows ignorance
on your part.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

I have a degree in English from the University of Texas Arlington and my
comprehension skills are fine.

You learned English in The Republic of Texas? No wonder you have a
problem!

If you install software without reading through the EULA then the
problem is not comprehension, but reading at all.

Huh? I didn't say anything about reading or clicking through the scammy
EULA, now did I, sport? Please try to respond to content, not what you
think I typed. Can you do it?

Let me see if I can make it clearer. Go to the web sites of Walmart, Best
Buy, Longhorn Ass Kicking Trailer Park Computers, Sears, whatever, and try
and find a place to click on to buy a licence. You will ONLY find a place
to click on called "software". For some reason, when people click on that
and add XP Home to their shopping cart, they think they are buying
SOFTWARE. Do you understand me now or do you need me to go a little
slower?

Alias

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)


If you can read the website, you can read the EULA. If you just click
through it during an install, that's your issue.

Huh? I didn't say anything about reading or clicking through the scammy
EULA, now did I, sport? Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Is
English not your first language? The web sites I was referring to and I
made it clear by typing *computer web sites" say *software*, not
"licences". Yaknow, the ones that sell Microsoft *Software*?
--
Alias



--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)


You were sold the licenses, not the software.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

We know about the licencing scam. It's a scam. It's highway robbery.
EVERY computer web site says "software", not "licences".

Alias

 

[Leythos]

Least spain doesn't have state sactioned murder.

Yes they do, and have had it for decades - you just are not privy to the
information. Every country has one or more teams that provides that
service, except for maybe France - they have some other country provide
the service for them

 

[Leythos]

Least spain doesn't have state sactioned murder.

Yes they do, and have had it for decades - you just are not privy to the
information. Every country has one or more teams that provides that
service, except for maybe France - they have some other country provide
the service for them

 

[Crusty \(-: Old B@stard :-\)]

What Alias is getting at is that all web sites, and stores, sell you
software. Don't they all have software departments, T.V. departments,
appliance departments etc.

Yet after they have sold you the "software", they try to tell you that you
have bought a license. Well, people DID NOT buy it in the license
department - did they?

Based upon that fact, and that even Microsoft offers you software downloads
(not license downloads) I think I also am going to begin to state that I OWN
the "software". The license that was in the package is ancillary to the fact
of my purchase, and I don't really have to even read it.

The software is mine, whether I have a license or not!

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

I have a degree in English from the University of Texas Arlington and my
comprehension skills are fine. If you install software without reading
through the EULA then the problem is not comprehension, but reading at all.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

If you can read the website, you can read the EULA. If you just click
through it during an install, that's your issue.

Huh? I didn't say anything about reading or clicking through the scammy
EULA, now did I, sport? Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Is
English not your first language? The web sites I was referring to and I
made it clear by typing *computer web sites" say *software*, not
"licences". Yaknow, the ones that sell Microsoft *Software*?
--
Alias

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)


You were sold the licenses, not the software.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

We know about the licencing scam. It's a scam. It's highway robbery.
EVERY computer web site says "software", not "licences".

Alias

 

[Leythos]

What Alias is getting at is that all web sites, and stores, sell you
software. Don't they all have software departments, T.V. departments,
appliance departments etc.

Yet after they have sold you the "software", they try to tell you that you
have bought a license. Well, people DID NOT buy it in the license
department - did they?

And the simple fact is that the store that sold it didn't provide full
disclosure while MS does clearly provide it. Maybe you should be
complaining to the stores since they are the ones not providing the
information to the customers - MS clearly makes this information available
to any that ask/look for it.

 

[Alias]

So, I don't understand you - you find an instance where WalMart, like
other vendors is not providing full disclosure about a product that it
sells, where the product manufacturer does provide this information, and
you still want to slam the Manufacturer? Why are you not going after
WalMart, Sears, and the places that market the manufacturers product
incorrectly?

You've clearly pointed out a flaw in the sales model of many companies,
but not in Microsofts.

Um, Microsoft *licences* these stores to sell their products and you say
Microsoft has nothing to do with the scam? Please, pull the other one, it
has bells on it. Does Microsoft have a store where they say they sell
licences instead of software?

 

[Leythos]

Um, Microsoft *licences* these stores to sell their products and you say
Microsoft has nothing to do with the scam? Please, pull the other one, it
has bells on it. Does Microsoft have a store where they say they sell
licences instead of software?

I bet if you call MS and indicate the issue you have, and then call
WalMart that you might get something done about it, but I suspect that all
you really want to do is bitch and let others do the work for you.

MS sells vendors products to sell to customers, if they (the
stores) misrepresent the product to the consumers, it's not the fault of
the manufacturer, it's the fault of the store selling the product. I'm
sure that the purchasing agent for WalMart is actually aware of what they
are doing/selling and they are marketing the product as they see fit -
until someone takes them to task for it.

It was clear about the OEM product that the user MUST comply with the
systems builders licensing - right on the WalMart site even.

If you don't like how WalMart does business take it to WalMart, MS doesn't
have anything to do with it.

 

[Alias]

"David Candy" <.> wrote

Sport, sport. <<<<<

Last I checked, sport, that is an English word that is used in all English
speaking countries. When I was a child, my father named our dog "sport".

Alias

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To which "Australian" word are you referring, sport?

Alias

"David Candy" <.> wrote

Hoy, sport yourself. Don't use Australian words if you aren't.

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http://www.microscum.com/mscommunity/

I have a degree in English from the University of Texas Arlington and my
comprehension skills are fine.

You learned English in The Republic of Texas? No wonder you have a
problem!

If you install software without reading through the EULA then the
problem
is not comprehension, but reading at all.

Huh? I didn't say anything about reading or clicking through the scammy
EULA, now did I, sport? Please try to respond to content, not what you
think
I typed. Can you do it?

Let me see if I can make it clearer. Go to the web sites of Walmart, Best
Buy, Longhorn Ass Kicking Trailer Park Computers, Sears, whatever, and
try
and find a place to click on to buy a licence. You will ONLY find a place
to
click on called "software". For some reason, when people click on that
and
add XP Home to their shopping cart, they think they are buying SOFTWARE.
Do
you understand me now or do you need me to go a little slower?

Alias

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)


If you can read the website, you can read the EULA. If you just click
through it during an install, that's your issue.

Huh? I didn't say anything about reading or clicking through the scammy
EULA, now did I, sport? Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Is
English not your first language? The web sites I was referring to and I
made it clear by typing *computer web sites" say *software*, not
"licences". Yaknow, the ones that sell Microsoft *Software*?
--
Alias



--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)


You were sold the licenses, not the software.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

We know about the licencing scam. It's a scam. It's highway robbery.
EVERY computer web site says "software", not "licences".

Alias

 

[Leythos]

Australia doesn't. It is prohibited by law after ASIS kidnapped a hotel
of Australians in melbourne as a training exercise. The police weren't
impressed with people running around melbourne with guns kidnapping
people at random. The people kidnapped weren't impressed either. Noone
was so they lost the power to conduct covert missions and can only spy.

And if you believe that Oz doesn't take people out you're living in a
dream world and failing to face reality.

 

[Alias]

Flaming people for their cultural or educational backgrounds shows
ignorance on your part.

Flaming? LOL! You just can't respond to content. I lived in Austin for seven
years so I know Texans can't speak English properly. Even the Texans admit
they speak Texan, not English.

Alias

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

I have a degree in English from the University of Texas Arlington and my
comprehension skills are fine.

You learned English in The Republic of Texas? No wonder you have a
problem!

If you install software without reading through the EULA then the
problem is not comprehension, but reading at all.

Huh? I didn't say anything about reading or clicking through the scammy
EULA, now did I, sport? Please try to respond to content, not what you
think I typed. Can you do it?

Let me see if I can make it clearer. Go to the web sites of Walmart, Best
Buy, Longhorn Ass Kicking Trailer Park Computers, Sears, whatever, and
try and find a place to click on to buy a licence. You will ONLY find a
place to click on called "software". For some reason, when people click
on that and add XP Home to their shopping cart, they think they are
buying SOFTWARE. Do you understand me now or do you need me to go a
little slower?

Alias

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)


If you can read the website, you can read the EULA. If you just click
through it during an install, that's your issue.

Huh? I didn't say anything about reading or clicking through the scammy
EULA, now did I, sport? Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Is
English not your first language? The web sites I was referring to and I
made it clear by typing *computer web sites" say *software*, not
"licences". Yaknow, the ones that sell Microsoft *Software*?
--
Alias



--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)


You were sold the licenses, not the software.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)

We know about the licencing scam. It's a scam. It's highway robbery.
EVERY computer web site says "software", not "licences".

Alias

 

[Leythos]

Bullshit. There's no death penalty in any of the EU country's penal code.

Care to show me where to mentioned "Death Penalty"? You clearly stated
"Sanctioned Murder". If you intended to say "Death Penalty" you should
have said it - as one who so often complains about content of messages.

Spain sanctions murder/eliminations all the time, you just don't see it
because you don't belong to the covert groups that are involved in it.

 

[David Candy]

MS is complicit in stealing from it's customers. Mostly because they don't care.

 

[Alias]

Yes they do, and have had it for decades - you just are not privy to the
information. Every country has one or more teams that provides that
service, except for maybe France - they have some other country provide
the service for them

Bullshit. There's no death penalty in any of the EU country's penal code.

Alias