no access to nearby PC (XP) ???


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surface9

I have a 3 PC network, using AT&T's 2-wire 1701HG wired modem. I have
it connected to an XP system, a win2k system, and an older win98se
system. I have made all the drives on all three PC's "shared" with no
restrictions, and the XP PC can see all the drives on the other two
PC's (the win2k and the win98se PC's). But I need for my win2k PC to
have access to the h/d's on my XP system, and, when I try to "explore"
the XP machine from within my Win2k "My network" dialogue, it says I
do not have access rights - see your network administrator". Well, I
confess I don't know enough about the details of microsoft's
networking software, but, how do I go about getting my win2k system
configured so that it can gain access to my XP's hard drives? From my
win2k PC, I have full access to all the drives on my Win98se system,
and, I don't think I did anything special on any of my 3 PC's, so, I
can't understand why I can't "explore" my XP machine from my win2k PC
- I need to be able to do that so I can then "map network drive", but,
first I have to get past that message denying me to even peek at my XP
system from my win2k system.

Also, how do I find out (from within my win2k system) how I am logged
on? (as administrator? as a user?) I really don't know - when it
boots up, it just comes right on up to the windows desktop and I can't
find out anywhere what my logon userid is? I wanted to be logged on
as "administrator", but, when I installed this win2k, I don't remember
it asking me for any logon userid or anything. I am thinking maybe my
logon id (whatever it might be) has something to do with denying me
access to my XP machine, even though it allows me full access to my
win98se machine.

I would appreciate any help getting me access to my XP machine from my
win2k machine.

Jerry
 
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Pegasus [MVP]

surface9 said:
I have a 3 PC network, using AT&T's 2-wire 1701HG wired modem. I have
it connected to an XP system, a win2k system, and an older win98se
system. I have made all the drives on all three PC's "shared" with no
restrictions, and the XP PC can see all the drives on the other two
PC's (the win2k and the win98se PC's). But I need for my win2k PC to
have access to the h/d's on my XP system, and, when I try to "explore"
the XP machine from within my Win2k "My network" dialogue, it says I
do not have access rights - see your network administrator". Well, I
confess I don't know enough about the details of microsoft's
networking software, but, how do I go about getting my win2k system
configured so that it can gain access to my XP's hard drives? From my
win2k PC, I have full access to all the drives on my Win98se system,
and, I don't think I did anything special on any of my 3 PC's, so, I
can't understand why I can't "explore" my XP machine from my win2k PC
- I need to be able to do that so I can then "map network drive", but,
first I have to get past that message denying me to even peek at my XP
system from my win2k system.

Also, how do I find out (from within my win2k system) how I am logged
on? (as administrator? as a user?) I really don't know - when it
boots up, it just comes right on up to the windows desktop and I can't
find out anywhere what my logon userid is? I wanted to be logged on
as "administrator", but, when I installed this win2k, I don't remember
it asking me for any logon userid or anything. I am thinking maybe my
logon id (whatever it might be) has something to do with denying me
access to my XP machine, even though it allows me full access to my
win98se machine.

I would appreciate any help getting me access to my XP machine from my
win2k machine.

Jerry
By default Windows 2000 prompts you for a user-ID and a password. If yours
doesn't then this is because someone (probably a human) forced an automatic
logon. There are several methods to do this. Using the add-on tool TweakUI
is one of them. Running the command

control userpasswords2

is another.

To find out what your current privileges are, do this:
- Click Start / Run
- Type the three letters cmd
- Click OK
You are now at the Command Prompt.
- Type this command:
net user "%username%"{Enter}
Right at the bottom it tells you what group (User? Administrator?) you
belong to.

To gain access to the WinXP shares, make sure that your Win2000 logon name &
password matches a WinXP account name / password. You may need to create one
on the WinXP PC if none exists.
 
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surface9

By default Windows 2000 prompts you for a user-ID and a password. If yours
doesn't then this is because someone (probably a human) forced an automatic
logon. There are several methods to do this. Using the add-on tool TweakUI
is one of them. Running the command

control userpasswords2

is another.

To find out what your current privileges are, do this:
- Click Start / Run
- Type the three letters   cmd
- Click OK
  You are now at the Command Prompt.
- Type this command:
  net user "%username%"{Enter}
Right at the bottom it tells you what group (User? Administrator?) you
belong to.

To gain access to the WinXP shares, make sure that your Win2000 logon name &
password matches a WinXP account name / password. You may need to create one
on the WinXP PC if none exists.
Thanks, Pegasus, I executed the net user command and here is what I
got:
*****************************************************************************************
User name j
Full Name j
Comment
User's comment
Country code 000 (System Default)
Account active Yes
Account expires Never

Password last set 9/18/2009 11:57 PM
Password expires Never
Password changeable 9/18/2009 11:57 PM
Password required Yes
User may change password Yes

Workstations allowed All
Logon script
User profile
Home directory
Last logon 12/31/2009 2:41 PM

Logon hours allowed All

Local Group Memberships *Administrators
Global Group memberships *None
The command completed successfully.
**************************************************************************

When I executed the same command on the XP system, I got the exact
same results except for the password last set date, which was later
when I installed XP (which was later than when I installed my Win2k
system).

What happens is when I go into "my networks", I can select the group
named "HOME", and see all three computers listed.
I get this result from ALL 3 of my pc's. When I try to expand the PC
for the XP system from within my Win2k system, I get the following
error:
*****************************************
//J-ZED..... is not accessable
Logon failure user account restriction

*****************************************

//J-ZED... is the name of the XP computer (assigned by the system when
I installed XP)

Could my problem be that both the XP and the Win2k systems are using
the same user name ("j")?

I don't remember, but, if the installation process asked me for a
name, I probably replied with "j" on both the XP and the Win2k system
- I woulld have done this without thinking. If that is the problem,
is there any way for me to change it on the XP system without having
to re-install XP? Is there any other way I can go about getting
access to my XP h/d's from my Win2k system? What really baffles me
is that I CAN see my win2k h/d's from my XP system, even though the
username in both systems is the same "j". This is all so very
confusing!!!!!!!

How do I "create a username/password" on my XP system to allow my
win2k system access to the XP h/d's? When I navigate through "My
Networks" on my XP system, I don't see any option anywhere that allows
me to "create a username/passord" for a nearby connected PC. I also
wouldn't know what username/password to use since the net user command
didn't say anything about a password (I don't use one on any of my
PC's). This seems to be a lot more difficult than it should be -
help!

Jerry
 
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Pegasus [MVP]

*** See below.

surface9 said:
Thanks, Pegasus, I executed the net user command and here is what I
got:
*****************************************************************************************
User name j
Full Name j
Comment
User's comment
Country code 000 (System Default)
Account active Yes
Account expires Never

Password last set 9/18/2009 11:57 PM
Password expires Never
Password changeable 9/18/2009 11:57 PM
Password required Yes
User may change password Yes

Workstations allowed All
Logon script
User profile
Home directory
Last logon 12/31/2009 2:41 PM

Logon hours allowed All

Local Group Memberships *Administrators
Global Group memberships *None
The command completed successfully.
**************************************************************************
*** This means that the "J" account is active and that it has
*** administrative privileges.
When I executed the same command on the XP system, I got the exact
same results except for the password last set date, which was later
when I installed XP (which was later than when I installed my Win2k
system).

What happens is when I go into "my networks", I can select the group
named "HOME", and see all three computers listed.
I get this result from ALL 3 of my pc's. When I try to expand the PC
for the XP system from within my Win2k system, I get the following
error:
*****************************************
//J-ZED..... is not accessable
Logon failure user account restriction

*****************************************

//J-ZED... is the name of the XP computer (assigned by the system when
I installed XP)

Could my problem be that both the XP and the Win2k systems are using
the same user name ("j")?
*** To the contrary: The account "J" must exist on both PCs, with
*** identical passwords.
I don't remember, but, if the installation process asked me for a
name, I probably replied with "j" on both the XP and the Win2k system
*** Let's get rid of assumptions and deal with facts instead. Open a
*** Command Prompt on each PC (in my previous response I explained
*** how to do this), then type this command to see all existing accounts:
*** net user{Enter}
*** And while you're at it, you might as well synchronise the passwords
*** with this command:
*** net user J abcxyz{Enter}
*** where abcxyz is the new password.
- I woulld have done this without thinking. If that is the problem,
is there any way for me to change it on the XP system without having
to re-install XP? Is there any other way I can go about getting
access to my XP h/d's from my Win2k system? What really baffles me
is that I CAN see my win2k h/d's from my XP system, even though the
username in both systems is the same "j". This is all so very
confusing!!!!!!!

How do I "create a username/password" on my XP system to allow my
win2k system access to the XP h/d's? When I navigate through "My
Networks" on my XP system, I don't see any option anywhere that allows
me to "create a username/passord" for a nearby connected PC. I also
wouldn't know what username/password to use since the net user command
didn't say anything about a password (I don't use one on any of my
PC's). This seems to be a lot more difficult than it should be -
help!

Jerry
*** The last word in the above paragraph is the important keyword: "Help".
*** There is an enormous amount of help built into Windows - use it!
*** In your case you should click Start / Help, then look for help on
"accounts".
*** One of the many suggested topics will be "users and passwords overview".
*** At the bottom you will see "related topics". Clicking it shows you
exactly
*** the help topics that you need so badly.
***
*** After you have synchronised your accounts/passwords, try this on a
*** Win2000 machine:
*** 1. Open a Command Prompt.
*** 2. Type these commands:
*** ping [Name of WinXP PC] (without the brackets)
*** e.g. ping NewPC
*** net use Q: \\[Name of WinXP PC]\[Name of WinXP PC Share]
*** e.g. net use Q: \\NewPC\SharedDocs
*** 3. Report what you see.
 
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surface9

Well, something I did worked, but, I am not sure what it was.

I did the command "net user j <password> on both machines and then I
changed the name of the XP PC from a long string of whatever
characters (zl-1....) to a simple "am2" (without the quotes), and then
I rebooted XP and then I went over to the win2k PC and went into MY
networks and clicked on both the "D" drive and the "E" drive of the
am2 computer, and, voila!, I could see the contents on these drives
(that is, I could use my networks explorer-type function to have full
access to these drives), from my win2k system. Then, I went into
command prompt and issued the command:
net use Q: \\am2\am2c
and it said "the command completed successfully", plus, I could see
that XP drive from windows explorer on my win2k system. However, when
I tried the same command (from Win2k, still), for am2d and am2e, it
gave me the following error:

system error 85 occurred.
the local device name is already in use.

I assume that is because I had already accessed these two driver from
within "my network places".

Oh, one other thing, I also went into "my network places" under XP,
and found a dialogue for "permissions" somewhere (I was really lost
fishing around there), but, I selected am2c, am2d, and am2e at this
dialogue and maybe that is why my Win2k PC can now see these drives.

What is even more surprising to me is that my win98se PC can also see
all 3 of my XP h/d's (am2c, am2d, am2e) and all I had to do was click
on "my network places", then am2, then supply the same password I used
above, and, bingo! my win98se PC has access to all my XP h/d's.

So, while I don't fully understand all this, at least I got access to
my XP h/d's from my other two PC's (win2k and win98se). I also did
the ping am2 command from my win2k PC and it came back with a slew of
data numbers that suggested it was connected and working.

Thanks for the advice, I intend to study this *networking* subject
more thoroughly now that I got past this stumbling point. Thanks
again.

Being able to see any of my h/d's from any of my PC's makes it very
convenient to keep data in a more orderly fashion, without having to
always be popping in a flash drive, or doing a hot-connect for IDE
drives, or the many ways to just get at something on another of the
PC's. I just hope I don't lose this facility now that it is working.

Jerry

Jerry
 
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Pegasus [MVP]

surface9 said:
Well, something I did worked, but, I am not sure what it was.

I did the command "net user j <password> on both machines and then I
changed the name of the XP PC from a long string of whatever
characters (zl-1....) to a simple "am2" (without the quotes), and then
I rebooted XP and then I went over to the win2k PC and went into MY
networks and clicked on both the "D" drive and the "E" drive of the
am2 computer, and, voila!, I could see the contents on these drives
(that is, I could use my networks explorer-type function to have full
access to these drives), from my win2k system. Then, I went into
command prompt and issued the command:
net use Q: \\am2\am2c
and it said "the command completed successfully", plus, I could see
that XP drive from windows explorer on my win2k system. However, when
I tried the same command (from Win2k, still), for am2d and am2e, it
gave me the following error:

system error 85 occurred.
the local device name is already in use.

I assume that is because I had already accessed these two driver from
within "my network places".

Oh, one other thing, I also went into "my network places" under XP,
and found a dialogue for "permissions" somewhere (I was really lost
fishing around there), but, I selected am2c, am2d, and am2e at this
dialogue and maybe that is why my Win2k PC can now see these drives.

What is even more surprising to me is that my win98se PC can also see
all 3 of my XP h/d's (am2c, am2d, am2e) and all I had to do was click
on "my network places", then am2, then supply the same password I used
above, and, bingo! my win98se PC has access to all my XP h/d's.

So, while I don't fully understand all this, at least I got access to
my XP h/d's from my other two PC's (win2k and win98se). I also did
the ping am2 command from my win2k PC and it came back with a slew of
data numbers that suggested it was connected and working.

Thanks for the advice, I intend to study this *networking* subject
more thoroughly now that I got past this stumbling point. Thanks
again.

Being able to see any of my h/d's from any of my PC's makes it very
convenient to keep data in a more orderly fashion, without having to
always be popping in a flash drive, or doing a hot-connect for IDE
drives, or the many ways to just get at something on another of the
PC's. I just hope I don't lose this facility now that it is working.

Jerry

Jerry
Thanks for the feedback - glad you got it going.

The message "the local device name is already in use" has an entirely
trivial cause: The drive letter, Q: in your case, is already in use. You can
see it with this command

net use {Enter}

and knock it out with this one:

net use Q: /del{Enter}
 
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surface9

Thanks for the feedback - glad you got it going.

The message "the local device name is already in use" has an entirely
trivial cause: The drive letter, Q: in your case, is already in use. You can
see it with this command

net use {Enter}

and knock it out with this one:

net use Q: /del{Enter}
Yes, like a dumb bunny who got a little smarter, I figured out that
the "Q" in the "net use" command was just a drive letter that you can
choose as long as it hasn't already been allocated. i really felt
stupid when that realization came to me - all i did was use R and S
for the other two XP h/d's. I am going to try to retrace my steps
where I found the "permissions" dialogue, because, I suspect that is
the trick needed to allow win2k and win98se to see those XP
harddrives.

Thanks for all the help.

Jerry
 

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