Nintendo Revolution *slightlyI more powerful than old Xbox. has max 128 MB RAM.

J

Jethro

Jordan said:
A quick run-down since you're interested:

Spare Bedroom:
Sega Genesis/Sega CD/32X
NEC Turbo DUO

Master Bedroom:
Sony Playstation
Sega Saturn
Xbox
Xbox 360

Living Room
Sega Dreamcast
Sony Playstation2
Nintendo Gamecube

Wherever they end up:
Sony PSP
Nintendo Gameboy Advance
Nintendo Gameboy
Sega Game Gear
Nintendo Virtual Boy
Neo-Geo Pocket Color

Living room pic:

http://img278.imageshack.us/img278/9813/setup49vy.jpg

- Jordan

That list makes me feel funny in my pants...
:)
 
M

Me

GW said:
Well, they took this strategy with the DS and its demolishing the PSP in
terms of sales.

Oh really!




=======================

Sony's PSP breaks sales records

The Sony PlayStation Portable (PSP) has broken records to become the
fastest-selling games console of all time in the UK, according to figures.

More than 185,000 were sold in its first four days in UK shops, say
official Chart-Track figures.

Rival handheld, the Nintendo DS, sold 87,000 in its launch week in
March. The PSP sales account for about £33m.

Sony wants the PSP to appeal to more than just gamers. It also plays
films, music, and browses the web wirelessly.

The gadget went on sale in Europe on 1 September, nine months after it
hit Japanese stores and six months after the US.

Sony expects a million PSPs to be sold in the UK before Christmas.

Shops across the country opened their doors at midnight last night to
deal with the demand from gamers, with many reporting that they had
sold out. Chart-Track also reported that nine of the 24 PSP games
which were available at launch entered the Top 10 official UK games
chart this week.

Topping the chart was Ridge Racer, with one in five people buying the
game along with the PSP device.
<Snip>
==========================================

Seems you need to look up the word *demolishing* lad as it doesn't
seem to mean what you think it does! lol
 
M

Miles Bader

Jordan said:
If they add the Gamecube chips then the new machine will be running
cube games natively, not via emulation. That's what I'm talking about.

It can easily have a much more advanced CPU (e.g. multiple processors,
extension units) and graphics processor, and yet if well-designed, still
be able to run cube games with little overhead (though a cube game won't
simply "run").

What you were implying in your previous message was that the only way it
could do this would be if the Rev were "just" an improved GC -- i.e.,
that somehow good compatibility is incompatible with dramatic increases
in functionality -- and that's simply bullshit.

-Miles
 
M

Miles Bader

Ted said:
No, he's right; those two games suck mighty hard for many people.
Nintendo ruined their good 2D games with 3D for me and many others.

Ok, admittedly there are the 2% of gamers with that opinion too.

-Miles
 
M

McGrandpa

Jordan said:
I didn't make it, I bought it from these folks:

http://www.predicta.com

$2,468 included $161 for freight shipping from Wisconsin.

I was going to buy an original from the 50s and fix it up, but the
shells I was finding were over $1,000 and needed more than $1,000 worth
of restoration work.

Here's a guy who restored an original:
http://www.nappepin.com/predicta/predicta.htm

- Jordan
Have you seen the movie "Brazil" ? All their monitors are like that.
McG.
 
M

Miles Bader

GW said:
Look at the most recent and up to date global figures, small knob.

Basically the PSP rode a wave of hype when it first went on sale, but
after that seems to have not lived up to expectations.

I refuse to buy one until they fix the horrid controls.

-Miles
 
G

Guest

Jordan said:
"They are making Millions in profits off of their hardware and games. "

Nintendo profits plummet
http://business.guardian.co.uk/story/0,16781,1650369,00.html

Stil making money$$$.

Quote "
Despite the drop in earnings, profits topped market estimates thanks in
large part to gains made in foreign exchange transactions, the company said.

Nintendo also kept to its full-year earnings forecasts of 75bn yen, down
from 87.4bn a year earlier.
UnQuote"

Still making Money$$$.
Flagging GameCube hobbles Nintendo profits
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6140455.html

Quote"
Though Microsoft loses money on each of its current- and next-generation
consoles, its rival Nintendo makes a point of profiting from its hardware.
So when sales of the GameCube suffer, so does the company's bottom line, as
shown in Nintendo's latest six-month annual report.

For the six months ending September 30, 2005, the company saw net income of
36.6 billion yen ($308 million), a 21-percent slump compared to the same
period in 2004. While net sales fell just 6.2 percent to 176.3 billion yen
($1.4 billion), operating income plummeted 51 percent, going from 40 billion
yen ($336 million) to just 19.6 billion yen ($165 million).

UnQuote

Still making Money$$$.


Below is more of the same.....

You made my point.

Next?

T-Rex
 
G

Guest

Jordan said:
The point is Nintendo is on the way out. If they keep with their
current corporate strategy ("Games are too hard! People want easy
games!") they are going to tank and tank quickly.

- Jordan

You don't think they didn't do some research on this, do you?

Plug and Plays' are selling like hot cakes, since last year. Old, simple
games with a crappy, simple to use controller. You don't think that this
makes Nintendo smile?

T-Rex
 
M

Me

GW said:
Look at the most recent and up to date global figures,

Well, YOU are the one who stated that the DS was *demolishing* the PSP
so don't you think that YOU ought to be the one providing the
*evidence* to back up your claims? I proved you wrong in the UK, you
have to yourself right worldwide.

I'm neither privvy to nor care overmuch about console sales, but
sticking PSP Sales into google came up with a few interesting
snippets. EG..


****************************

Nintendo DS : PSP beating DS in sales in Japan
Posted by XFacedownX on 2005/4/13 14:40:45 (1699 reads)

According to Enterbrain Inc, the publisher of Famitsu and a lot of
other Japanese game zines, the PSP sales have started outpace those of
the DS.



The most popular handheld in Japan remains the DS. It has sold an
impressive 1.09 million units during December only, which the PSP has
only reached after four months of sale!

In December and January, the DS flew ahead of the PSP in sales, but in
February and March the tables have turned.

February portable console sales figures:
PSP sales: 195,000 ~ DS sales: 121,000
March:
PSP sales: 202,000 ~ DS sales: 136,000

Overall, the Nintendo DS is still ahead as the Japanese own 1.8
million DSes and 1.09 million PSPs.
**********************************

Now this is from a DS gaming site apparently, but even in this region
where the DS supposed to be strongest, I wouldn't call 1.8 to 1.09
million as the PSP being *destroyed* by the DS, especially when the
PSP was selling 60-70,000 more units per month than the DS. If you
want to see destroyed, then look at PS2 to GC sales where the PS2 has
a 5:1 advantage!




*******************
Games Channel


PSP sales hit 10 million mark worldwide

Author: Nick Gibbens

21 Oct 2005

Japanese electronics giant Sony says it has sold 10 million PSP
handheld consoles worldwide.

According to Sony, the figure makes the PSP - launched in 2004 - the
fastest selling PlayStation branded games console ever.

"PSP has steadily been establishing its place as a new handheld
entertainment platform around the world. With its overwhelming
presence and impact, unparalleled in handheld systems, PSP has been
gaining huge support from a broad range of consumers," Sony said in a
statement.

The PSP is a games console which can also play movies and music.

About 4.47 million units have been sold in the US and Canada, 3
million in Asia including Japan and 2.53 million have been sold in Europe.

By September 2005, there were 183 software titles available and total
shipments of games had reached 19.6 million units.
******************************

Even if Sony were edging up the figures, to round it to 10 million, 8
even 6 million sales in around 6months is nothing to be sneezed at.
The DS was released last december, so if you can point to 20+ million
sales, you may have a case for beating, but in no way destroying the
PSP, especially when you consider all the other handhelds which came
up against Nintendo and in years got nowhere near what Sony has
managed in months!

If you have information which *destroys* all these
reports along with the earlier one I posted about the UK PSP sales,
then don't keep them to yourself, let us all in on the secret. As far
as I can see, the only place where the DS could possibly be
*destroying* the PSP, is in Marioland and [brace yourself], that isn't
a real place!
small knob.

ROTFL.. Well done lad, I admire your restraint in not calling me Mr
Pee-Pee Pants or something, which I'd expect from a Nintendo fanchild!

BTW you haven't been peeping at me whilst I was taking a piss have
you? Just wondering with your talk of *cool lazy boys* and stuff! Not
that I mind like, everyone needs a hobby, but I can only think that my
lazy boy was bit cold that day!
[Well that's my story and I'm sticking to it! Perhaps if yours was a
bit smaller, it would allow some blood to get to your brain! lol]
 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Henrik_M=FCnster?=

Well, YOU are the one who stated that the DS was *demolishing* the PSP
so don't you think that YOU ought to be the one providing the
*evidence* to back up your claims? I proved you wrong in the UK, you
have to yourself right worldwid

Your numbers are still a little old. The PSP launched with a lot of
hype. The DS didn't, and the DS didn't have many good games to choose
from at launch. But now this is slowly changing, and the DS is getting
momentum. Both Nintendogs and Mario Kart DS, which can be bought
bundled with a Nintendo DS, are extremely popular. They have really
helped selling a lot of DS's, and those games are barely a month old.

<http://nintendo.about.com/library/dswins/bldspsp1.htm>

<http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=1738>

"Nintendo DS is this generation's current handheld market leader
according to internal sales data at Nintendo. Nintendo DS retail sales
are at six million units in the U.S. and Japan compared to Sony's PSP
at 4.26 million.
....
The pup simulator Nintendogs has sold 950,000 units in the U.S. and
carries twice the female purchase rate than traditional software.
Nintendo currently owns 72% of the handheld market, with Game Boy
Advance at 41%, Nintendo DS at 31%, and PSP at 28%.
Nintendo DS sales began to surge in Japan months ago on sales of
untraditional games like Nintendogs and Brain Training for Adults. The
hardware continues to outsell all other consoles in that region.
....
The PSP sells at a more even pace in the U.S. Sony began selling a
limited edition Giga Pack at $299 in Nov. The electronics giant aims to
double the PSP's install base by the end of the holidays."
 
U

Ulala

The pup simulator Nintendogs has sold 950,000 units in the U.S. and
carries twice the female purchase rate than traditional software.
Nintendo currently owns 72% of the handheld market, with Game Boy
Advance at 41%, Nintendo DS at 31%, and PSP at 28%.

Those numbers don't look right. Are you saying that now that almost as
many people own a DS as a GBA? I doubt that... GBA has been on the
market for so long theres bound to be many many many millions more than
that of the DS. More like 80% GBA 31% DS and 28% PSP if you ask me.
 
U

Ulala

Plug and Plays' are selling like hot cakes, since last year. Old, simple
games with a crappy, simple to use controller. You don't think that this
makes Nintendo smile?

T-Rex

I still cannot understand why they make them all left-handed. I guess
that's good if you *are* left-handed, but I'm not...

Julian
 
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=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Henrik_M=FCnster?=

Those numbers don't look right. Are you saying that now that almost as
many people own a DS as a GBA? I doubt that... GBA has been on the
market for so long theres bound to be many many many millions more than
that of the DS. More like 80% GBA 31% DS and 28% PSP if you ask me.

Don't ask me. I took the numbers from an article, whichs I also
referred to. Perhaps my English is not very good. I understood, that
the percentages were of the numbers being sold and not the installed
base.

<http://news.punchjump.com/article.php?id=1738>
 

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