My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem

[Guest]

Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off my oem
disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and I need a new
version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding this?

 

[Guest]

Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on your
customer's computer and the end user may maintain the license for the
original Microsoft® OEM operating system software, with the exception of an
upgrade or replacement of the motherboard.

An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal
computer" to which Microsoft® OEM operating system software cannot be
transferred from another computer.

If the motherboard is upgraded or replaced for reasons other than a defect,
then a
new computer has been created and the license of new operating system
software is required.

If the motherboard is replaced because it is defective, you do NOT need to
acquire a new operating system license for the PC as long as the replacement
motherboard is the same make andmodel or the same manufacturer’s
replacement/equivalent, as defined by the manufacturer’s warranty.

 

[Beck]

Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off
my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and
I need a new version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding
this?

If you just add a new motherboard to your pc then you will not need to
transfer anything as windows is on the hard drive.
If you are installing to a new pc you can install your OEM onto the new PC
providing it is not stil being used on the broken PC. However, if your OEM
version is not one you purchased seperately but one you got preinstaled onto
the hard drive with a restore disc then it probably will not work. Most
preinstalled versions and their backups will only run on the PC it was first
installed to.

My Acer computer has an oem which is tied to the computer. On the product
key sticker it says "Windows XP Home Acer Incorporated" - that means its
tied to that machine. My new OEM Home which I bought yesterday has on it
"windows xp home oem software". Check what your label says.

 

[Johnathan]

Hi there,

My motherboard has died and I need to transfer reinstall Windows off
my oem disk - a friend tells me that this would breach lisencing and
I need a new version!

Is this true and is there anything else that I should know regarding
this?

There are many posts regarding this and many different answers and
interpretations. The short answer is you should have no difficulties if done
properly. There is nothing improper about repairing a system. I have done
this successfully. You will most likely be required to reactivate which is
what I did by phone. I was told there is never a problem if you are adding
hardware which includes every piece including the CPU.

Good Luck.

 

[Guest]

Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under
centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already
used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license!

Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the first
reply to this post!

CRaven
Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist

 

[Guest]

Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under
centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already
used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license!

Read the excerpt from microsoft OEM system builder website in the first
reply to this post!

The only way that a processor or motherboard can be changed (without
warranty issues) is on a Full Packaged Retail Product!

The lisence on OEM operating systems is married to the computer (the
Motherborad , CPU and other essential components) not the user and that is
specifically why reinstalling on a new motherboard is a breach of the license!

CRaven
Micrsosoft Licensing Sales Specialist

 

[Alias]

Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on your
customer's computer and the end user may maintain the license for the
original Microsoft® OEM operating system software, with the exception of an
upgrade or replacement of the motherboard.

False. I just upgraded mine (OEM generic) and it activated online no
problem, passed WGA no problem.

An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal
computer" to which Microsoft® OEM operating system software cannot be
transferred from another computer.
False.


If the motherboard is upgraded or replaced for reasons other than a defect,
then a
new computer has been created and the license of new operating system
software is required.
False.

If the motherboard is replaced because it is defective, you do NOT need to
acquire a new operating system license for the PC as long as the replacement
motherboard is the same make andmodel or the same manufacturer’s
replacement/equivalent, as defined by the manufacturer’s warranty.

False. That said if the OP's OEM is a branded OEM, you can't upgrade the
motherboard, only replace it with an identical motherboard. If it's a
generic OEM, you can upgrade any hardware you like. My EULA says
*nothing* about a motherboard.

Alias

 

[Alias]

Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under
centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already
used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license!

False. Read your EULA and get back to us. I am assuming, of course, that
you have a generic OEM. If you have a branded OEM, you can't do it for
technical reasons, not EULA reasons.

Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the first
reply to this post!

CRaven
Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist

I have three computers. All three have generic OEMs on them. I am not a
systems builder so that EULA doesn't apply to me, only the one I agreed
to, of course, and the one I agreed to says *nothing* about a
motherboard! In fact, I just upgraded the motherboard on one of my
computers and it passed WPA and all four WGAs so you were saying???

Alias

 

[Alias]

Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard (except under
centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install an already
used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM license!

That's not what my three EULAs say. Why do you lie?

Read the excerpt from microsoft OEM system builder website in the first
reply to this post!

Um, the OP is not a systems builder.

The only way that a processor or motherboard can be changed (without
warranty issues) is on a Full Packaged Retail Product!

False. I just upgraded one of my computers to a new motherboard, video
card, NIC and audio card. After clean installing XP HOme, it activated
online and passed all the WGAs. Oops.

The lisence on OEM operating systems is married to the computer (the
Motherborad , CPU and other essential components) not the user and that is
specifically why reinstalling on a new motherboard is a breach of the license!

CRaven

False. A branded OEM is tied to the motherboard technically, not
license-wise. Generic OEMs are NOT. All you do is spew FUD.

Alias

 

[Beck]

Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard
(except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install
an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM
license!

The upgrade of the motherboard is only a hardware upgrade and is not a new
pc. It would just require reactivation of the XP. As long as its not on
two pcs at the same time, the user can upgrade as many times as they like if
it is a standard OEM and not one which is tied to the PC.

 

[Johnathan]

Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard
(except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install
an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM
license!

Read the excerpt from microsoft OEM system builder website in the
first
reply to this post!

The only way that a processor or motherboard can be changed (without
warranty issues) is on a Full Packaged Retail Product!

The lisence on OEM operating systems is married to the computer (the
Motherborad , CPU and other essential components) not the user and
that is specifically why reinstalling on a new motherboard is a
breach of the license!

CRaven
Micrsosoft Licensing Sales Specialist

Maybe this should be relayed to MS phone support. In the process of
reactivation I was told there would not be a problem and she reactivated
that moment.

 

[Beck]

Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard
(except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install
an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM
license!

Read the excerpt from microsoft OEM system builder website in the
first
reply to this post!

The only way that a processor or motherboard can be changed (without
warranty issues) is on a Full Packaged Retail Product!

The lisence on OEM operating systems is married to the computer (the
Motherborad , CPU and other essential components) not the user and
that is specifically why reinstalling on a new motherboard is a
breach of the license!

The OEMs you are talking about are the ones preinstalled with the machine.
Yes they are tied to the machine. This is why I made the distinction in my
other post. Two types of OEM - branded OEM which come preinstalled with
systems, and generic OEM which can be purchased seperately.

 

[Guest]

When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM
Windows XP license, unless you replace the
motherboard with an exact duplicate.
Therefore, the installation of a different
model motherboard will require the purchase
of a new Windows XP license.

 

[Guest]

Branded or generic - Makes no difference - The same 2 license agreements
apply - systems builder + eula:

OEM software purchased from a 'computer store' and installed onto a machine
CANNOT then be transfered, Refer to OEM System builder agreement and EULA.

Just because you may have a version of Windows that Is or appears to be
activated does not make it legal!

 

[Guest]

Hi Johnathon;

Just because you may have a version of Windows that Is or appears to be
activated does not make it legal.

Consider the following ficticious scenario based around what you have said.

Jo Upgrades/replaces his motherboard;
He reinstalls Windows XP Home on this (effectively) new PC;
BillySprat informs Microsoft piracy that you have illegal software on your PC;

Jo has a receipt for original software, a hologram CD, manual and COA but
when it comes to court - he is asked to provide reciept for motherboard and
the judge checks it against the first activation date .. blah blah blah

 

[Beck]

Branded or generic - Makes no difference - The same 2 license
agreements apply - systems builder + eula:

OEM software purchased from a 'computer store' and installed onto a
machine CANNOT then be transfered, Refer to OEM System builder
agreement and EULA.

Just because you may have a version of Windows that Is or appears to
be activated does not make it legal!

Here is your system builder license.
http://oem.microsoft.com/downloads/Public/sblicense/English_SB_License.pdf

Please show which section it says you cannot upgrade the motherboard.
The only thing it says about new hardware is the following under clause 14:
Activation...

Product activation procedures and Microsofts privacy policy will be detailed
during initial launch of the product, or upon certain reinstallations of the
software product(s) or *reconfigurations* of this computer, and may be
completed by internet or telephone (toll charges may apply.

 

[Guest]

Wow a statement of fact - usefull in prosecution? The Question was wether it
is legal!

By Installing Microsoft OEM software - you are bound to the system builder
license wether you like it or not; you are also resposible for providing your
own support!

Just becasue you can activate it or pass WGA does not mean that you have a
legal or genuine Windows licensed machine (read WGA SITE) - I am not going to
further elaborate on this - there are more than enough pirates and license
evaders about already.

CRaven
Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist

 

[Guest]

Thanks Carrey - Now I remember why I originaly gave up the Idea of becoming
an MVP years ago - too many people state what can be down rather than what is
permitted etc!

Congratulations on your award

 

[Beck]

When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM
Windows XP license, unless you replace the
motherboard with an exact duplicate.
Therefore, the installation of a different
model motherboard will require the purchase
of a new Windows XP license.

It does not state that in the EULA.
Here is mine directly from my PC.
http://www.photoscene.co.uk/eula.txt

Nowhere does it say that a motherboard change will result in the user
requiring a new license.

 

[Alias]

Wow a statement of fact - usefull in prosecution? The Question was wether it
is legal!

It is, at least according the the EULA I agreed to.

By Installing Microsoft OEM software - you are bound to the system builder
license wether you like it or not;

Not true. I am bound by what I agree to, not what's in your imagination.

you are also resposible for providing your
own support!

Big deal.

Just becasue you can activate it or pass WGA does not mean that you have a
legal or genuine Windows licensed machine (read WGA SITE) - I am not going to
further elaborate on this - there are more than enough pirates and license
evaders about already.

CRaven

I bought my generic OEMs at an authorized dealer. In Spain, nobody sells
retail XPs. NOBODY! One store does sell retail upgrade versions at 3.5
times the price of OEM. Needless to say, they don't sell very many
except to fools like you who believe the FUD posted on this and other
newsgroups.

So, hot shot, you were saying?

Alias