My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem

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Carey said:
Direct quote from Microsoft OEM licensing:

Q. If my customer asks me to upgrade his PC with new hardware
components, when does a new operating system need to be acquired?
When would the PC be considered to be "new"?

A. Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware
components on your customer's computer and the end user customer may
maintain the license for the original Microsoft OEM operating system
software, with the exception of an upgrade or replacement of the
motherboard. An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in
a "new personal computer" to which Microsoft OEM operating system
software cannot be transferred from another computer. If the
motherboard is upgraded or replaced for reasons other than a defect,
then a new computer has been created and the license of new operating
system software is required. If the motherboard is replaced because
it is defective, you do NOT need to acquire a new operating system
license for the PC.
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LOL! SCO claims what IBM did was a violation of the UNIX license. Are
you so naive to believe MS over its licensing claims without proof?

Please quote the EULA and/or SBL where it specifically says that
replacing the motherboard invalidates the license.

But you cannot, because such quotes in the EULA and/or the SBL do not
exist, except in your very feeble imagination.

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Carey said:
Direct quote from Microsoft OEM licensing:

Q. If my customer asks me to upgrade his PC with new hardware components, when does a new operating system need to be acquired? When
would the PC be considered to be "new"?

A. Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on your customer's computer and the end user customer may
maintain the license for the original Microsoft OEM operating system software, with the exception of an upgrade or replacement of
the motherboard. An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal computer" to which Microsoft OEM operating
system software cannot be transferred from another computer. If the motherboard is upgraded or replaced for reasons other than a
defect, then a new computer has been created and the license of new operating system software is required. If the motherboard is
replaced because it is defective, you do NOT need to acquire a new operating system license for the PC.
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Ah so! The clarification is that if the motherboard is replaced
because it is defective, then, by default, it is not an upgrade
or a new creation. Hence, if a motherboard were to "die", then
it must be the result of a defect built into the motherboard and
one does NOT need to acquire a new operating system license...
regardless of whether or not a material upgrade is effected from
the replacement.

Then why did you earlier tell the OP that he will be required to
buy a new Windows XP license when it was clearly written that the
"...motherboard has died...."
 
If the motherboard dies, then in order to use the same
OEM Windows XP license, a new motherboard can
be used as long as the new motherboard is an exact
duplicate model of the original motherboard. If a
different model motherboard is installed, than a
new Windows XP license would be required.

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| Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
|
| > Direct quote from Microsoft OEM licensing:
| >
| > Q. If my customer asks me to upgrade his PC with new hardware components, when does a new operating system need to be acquired?
When
| > would the PC be considered to be "new"?
| >
| > A. Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on your customer's computer and the end user customer
may
| > maintain the license for the original Microsoft OEM operating system software, with the exception of an upgrade or replacement
of
| > the motherboard. An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal computer" to which Microsoft OEM
operating
| > system software cannot be transferred from another computer. If the motherboard is upgraded or replaced for reasons other than a
| > defect, then a new computer has been created and the license of new operating system software is required. If the motherboard is
| > replaced because it is defective, you do NOT need to acquire a new operating system license for the PC.
| >
|
| Ah so! The clarification is that if the motherboard is replaced
| because it is defective, then, by default, it is not an upgrade
| or a new creation. Hence, if a motherboard were to "die", then
| it must be the result of a defect built into the motherboard and
| one does NOT need to acquire a new operating system license...
| regardless of whether or not a material upgrade is effected from
| the replacement.
|
| Then why did you earlier tell the OP that he will be required to
| buy a new Windows XP license when it was clearly written that the
| "...motherboard has died...."
 
Carey said:
If the motherboard dies, then in order to use the same
OEM Windows XP license, a new motherboard can
be used as long as the new motherboard is an exact
duplicate model of the original motherboard. If a
different model motherboard is installed, than a
new Windows XP license would be required.
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That would depend on his EULA. This EULA change is recent within the last
few months. If the EULA he has at the moment has no mention if this new
motherboard clause then he is not affected as he has not agreed to it.
 
"If the SOFTWARE is not accompanied by HARDWARE,
you may not use the SOFTWARE."

Hardware = Motherboard
 
Carey said:
"If the SOFTWARE is not accompanied by HARDWARE,
you may not use the SOFTWARE."

Hardware = Motherboard
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Hardware = any piece of hardware which comes under the acceptance of selling
OEM. That could be a processor, memory, hard drive and so on.
 
Carey said:
If the motherboard dies, then in order to use the same
OEM Windows XP license, a new motherboard can
be used as long as the new motherboard is an exact
duplicate model of the original motherboard. If a
different model motherboard is installed, than a
new Windows XP license would be required.
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And where in the quote you posted are the words that
say or mention "exact duplicate model of the original
motherboard"? Nor is there any reference to such in the
URL that you had also provided as a refrence, i.e.,

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/YourPC_do.mspx

The Gestalt of a computer system or machine is the whole.
If one part dies "by defect" and this part is replaced,
the system or machine and its function are restored.

And also, when it comes to anatomy and health[care], and
organ transplants, you are also out of your league. Do
you really believe that, for example, a person who had
received a donor kidney is a "new" (and different) person?
 
Kidneys would be more like replacing memory chips. Try a better analogy.
If the motherboard dies, then in order to use the same
OEM Windows XP license, a new motherboard can
be used as long as the new motherboard is an exact
duplicate model of the original motherboard. If a
different model motherboard is installed, than a
new Windows XP license would be required.
Click to expand...

And where in the quote you posted are the words that
say or mention "exact duplicate model of the original
motherboard"? Nor is there any reference to such in the
URL that you had also provided as a refrence, i.e.,

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/YourPC_do.mspx

The Gestalt of a computer system or machine is the whole.
If one part dies "by defect" and this part is replaced,
the system or machine and its function are restored.

And also, when it comes to anatomy and health[care], and
organ transplants, you are also out of your league. Do
you really believe that, for example, a person who had
received a donor kidney is a "new" (and different) person?
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Bob said:
Kidneys would be more like replacing memory chips. Try a better analogy.
Click to expand...

Just for you, Bob, how about a heart-and-lung transplant.
Quality-of-life would be the benchmark. Would the person
still be the same?
 
Carey said:
Direct quote from Microsoft OEM licensing:

Q. If my customer asks me to upgrade his PC with new hardware components, when does a new operating system need to be acquired? When
would the PC be considered to be "new"?
Click to expand...

That's directed towards system builders. No systems builders in this
thread. I build my own computers and have no "customers". So, please, if
you're going to respond, do it with regard for others' intelligence.

Thank you.

Alias
 
Carey said:
"If the SOFTWARE is not accompanied by HARDWARE,
you may not use the SOFTWARE."

Hardware = Motherboard
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Hardware = screw, case, hard drive, video driver, power supply,
processor, cd rom, memory, power chord, monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc.

No wonder you're confused. You don't understand what hardware is.

Makes one wonder how in the world you were awarded an MVP.

Alias
 
"If the SOFTWARE is not accompanied by HARDWARE,
you may not use the SOFTWARE."

Hardware = Motherboard
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Are you kidding with this crap? And they actually gave you the title
of "MVP"? What a pitiful assault on the English alphabet.

Get back to us when you've got your head on straight.

6 U
 
Since you are all discussing Installing OEM software - and have all given the
impression that you have installed OEM software - you are entitled to
register at oem.microsoft.com

The page that provides you with the information which confirms both My
ansewers and careys is :
http://oem.microsoft.com/script/contentpage.aspx?PageID=552846#faq3

Alias - Check what you are talking about befor you make arsumptions
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Please click the yes below if this was helpfull

Regards,

CRaven
Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist
Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist
Microsoft Small Business Specialist
 
Carey - I think we should give up - they are clearly lost casues whom condone
piracy; I am sure that they would also consider it legal to make copies of
dvd's becasue they can buy blank disks!

I have emailed Microsoft Partner Support to ask that they make the faq
available at
http://oem.microsoft.com/script/contentpage.aspx?PageID=552846#faq3 available
via the url that you posted earlier in another reply and asked them to
arrange an explanation as to why when you install OEM software you accept the
SB license too.

I have also suggested that they do away with the myth of generic OEM disks v
branded oem disks and advised them of how people like alias are using the so
called descritpors to advise people to breach the licesning of their software.

Regards,

CRaven
Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist
Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist
Microsoft Small Business Specialist
 
CRaven said:
Since you are all discussing Installing OEM software - and have all given the
impression that you have installed OEM software - you are entitled to
register at oem.microsoft.com
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And we're entitled NOT to register there.
The page that provides you with the information which confirms both My
ansewers and careys is :
http://oem.microsoft.com/script/contentpage.aspx?PageID=552846#faq3

Alias - Check what you are talking about befor you make arsumptions
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I make no assumptions. I go by what I agreed to, my EULA, which doesn't
mention a motherboard once or any need to register at any web site or
read any system builders material.

Alias
 
Are you kidding with this crap? And they actually gave you the title
of "MVP"? What a pitiful assault on the English alphabet.

Get back to us when you've got your head on straight.

6 U
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Okay, okay.. you didn't really deserve that, since you have attempted
to help people in this group. But it's still a bunch of crap.

6 U
 
CRaven said:
Carey - I think we should give up - they are clearly lost casues whom condone
piracy;
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False. I am waiting for your apology. I have not once encouraged the use
of pirated software. I have promoted the fact that one can upgrade one's
computer if one has a generic OEM, a legal one.

I am sure that they would also consider it legal to make copies of
dvd's becasue they can buy blank disks!
Click to expand...

And how did you make that leap in logic?
I have emailed Microsoft Partner Support to ask that they make the faq
available at
http://oem.microsoft.com/script/contentpage.aspx?PageID=552846#faq3 available
via the url that you posted earlier in another reply and asked them to
arrange an explanation as to why when you install OEM software you accept the
SB license too.
Click to expand...

You don't. Only system builders need accept that license. I have bought
three without having to read or agree to a system builder's license.
I have also suggested that they do away with the myth of generic OEM disks v
branded oem disks and advised them of how people like alias are using the so
called descritpors to advise people to breach the licesning of their software.
Click to expand...

Um, go to this url for an OEM XP:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16837102062

Oops.
Regards,

CRaven
Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist
Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist
Microsoft Small Business Specialist
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Are you saying that generic OEMs don't exist and can't be bought by the
general public? LOL! You're hopelessly mired in fantasy.

Again, visit http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16837102062

Here's the system builder's EULA and I dare you to show me where it says
that changing the motherboard constitutes a "new computer":

http://oem.microsoft.com/downloads/Public/sblicense/English_SB_License.pdf

Are you all bark and no bite, Craven?

Please note that you are quoting US system builders' EULA. I live in
Spain where there is an entirely different one and it doesn't say that
changing the motherboard constitutes a "new computer" either!

Alias
 
Alias said:
That's directed towards system builders. No systems builders in this
thread. I build my own computers and have no "customers". So, please, if
you're going to respond, do it with regard for others' intelligence.

Thank you.

Alias
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In some circles, the home-builder or DIY'fer is considered
to be the system builder. In fact, it makes things easier as
the system builder should be providing a warranty and this
grants power to what the builder interprets to be a warranty
replacement part. If said part is not the original because
the builder can no longer provide it, the builder still must
honor the warranty by substituting the part. MS, at this time,
does not have a solution for this conumdrum nor would ir risk
a court challenge because whatever verdict will always favor
the builder as an user or the user as a builder.
 
Beck said:
That would depend on his EULA. This EULA change is recent within the
last few months. If the EULA he has at the moment has no mention if
this new motherboard clause then he is not affected as he has not
agreed to it.
Click to expand...

Carey has yet to quote any actual license, EULA or SBL. Neither
mentions this mobo BS.

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Kurt Kirsch
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http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
Carey said:
"If the SOFTWARE is not accompanied by HARDWARE,
you may not use the SOFTWARE."

Hardware = Motherboard
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Now you are an out and out liar, Carey.

"The term "COMPUTER" as used herein shall
mean the HARDWARE, if the HARDWARE is a
single computer system, or shall mean the
computer system with which the HARDWARE
operates, if the HARDWARE is a computer
system component." - OEM EULA

Nowhere in the EULA does it say anything like "Hardware = Motherboard!"

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Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
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