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[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

First, there are no copyright issues involved. This is an open
forum. Second, the opinions being expressed are supposedly those
of those who have posted them. And this is being done knowingly.
Third, although Microsoft might look at, and perhaps police, the
forums it has created under its sponsorship, it has no official
role because problems involving computers, software, hardware,
etc., are many and diverse and too diverse except for the major
blunders. Sit back and as somebody else wrote in this thread,
enjoy the show and take away what would be most valuable for you.

Okay. Open forum has nothing to do with it. The book on my floor is
open, and I can't copy that. It's really not the issue anyway.

The issue is, I want the question answered, definitively, by Microsoft,
the scrivner of the EULA. Knowledge for its own sake. That's all. I have
a brand new computer, and I don't expect it to blow up until shortly
after the warranty runs out, so I've got some time before this becomes a
personal problem.

I don't know what the police have to do with it--there's nothing
criminal going on.

In other words, I'm not interested in the conflicting opinions, but in
what Microsoft says the EULA says. I actually believe it has answered
the question on the website I linked to earlier, but that's in dispute,
and I just want to know.

And I'm going to do it in a way that I feel comfortable with, which
means I'm going to send a one page letter to the legal department and
ask them.

rl

P.S. I have a little confusion about "forums created under [Microsoft's]
sponsorship."

I don't read this forum from Microsoft's website or from their server.
And as near as I can tell, most independent newsservers (and google)
carry these groups. Microsoft could shut down its servers and turn off
its webpage, but the groups would still exist. Am I missing something?

 

[Larry Samuels]

Careful--Kurt enjoys spankings <VBEG>

--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone-

 

[Larry Samuels]

Good luck--you'll *never* get a straight answer from MS Legal. They will
tell you to consult your attorney.

As for the newsgroups, they are hosted on msnews.microsoft.com and MS has a
certain amount of control, but once they propagate to other news servers all
bets are off. MS could shut down the servers or kill the groups and the
groups would continue for years. It is almost impossible to kill a newsgroup
once it has established on multiple servers.


--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone-

 

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

Careful--Kurt enjoys spankings <VBEG>

I had him begging in another thread. <even bigger evil grin>

rl

 

[GHalleck]

The issue is, I want the question answered, definitively, by Microsoft,
the scrivner of the EULA. Knowledge for its own sake. That's all. I have
a brand new computer, and I don't expect it to blow up until shortly
after the warranty runs out, so I've got some time before this becomes a
personal problem.

In other words, I'm not interested in the conflicting opinions, but in
what Microsoft says the EULA says. I actually believe it has answered
the question on the website I linked to earlier, but that's in dispute,
and I just want to know.

And I'm going to do it in a way that I feel comfortable with, which
means I'm going to send a one page letter to the legal department and
ask them.

rl

Good luck on getting an opinion from Microsoft. Microsoft
is a world-wide operation and its legal department has been
very careful not to establish a formal statement that, while
legal in the United States, may infringe laws in other areas,
such as the European Union (EU), esp. where litigation against
Microsoft is still in progress. The best one can do is to read
the EULA, as you have done, and interpret it accordingly. And,
there is no reason to believe that a legal interpretation or
ruling from the State of Washington is applicable elsewhere in
any of the other 49 States.

This newsgroup, or forum, was set up by Microsoft and its home
is on a server at Microsoft in Redmond, Washington. It can be
accessed by search engines, other websites, newsservers, etc.,
because it is "open". Microsoft does have the right to regulate,
or "police", people who has access to this newsgroup and content,
as it did recently to Kurttrail, and even restricting access to
its server, as Intel had done several years ago. It is doubtful
that Microsoft will do this because these groups are still the
best for the exchange of technical information and support.

The IP address for news.microsoft.com is 207.46.246.16. Do a
WHOIS search at http://www.samspade.org/, to identify the owner.

 

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

The IP address for news.microsoft.com is 207.46.246.16. Do a
WHOIS search at http://www.samspade.org/, to identify the owner.

I'm posting from news.individual.net.

I had a post censored from the Microsoft server for using a naughty
word. Since then, I have not used the Microsoft server for posting to
this group. Microsoft has a perfect right to decide what posts will stay
on its server, but it has no control over the server I use, every other
server that carries these groups and, even better from the angle of
permanency, Google.

As for their lawyers, it never hurts to try. My own experience with
lawyers is that they love to tell people what things really mean, so if
these folks can't do that, they must be very stressed out. <laughing>

rl
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

Insisting on perfect safety is for people
without the balls to live in the real world.
Mary Shafer Iliff

 

[Beck]

I'm posting from news.individual.net.

I had a post censored from the Microsoft server for using a naughty
word. Since then, I have not used the Microsoft server for posting to
this group. Microsoft has a perfect right to decide what posts will
stay on its server, but it has no control over the server I use,
every other server that carries these groups and, even better from
the angle of permanency, Google.

I really do not think they censor them and delete posts.

 

[David Candy]

They do.

 

[Larry Samuels]

Yes they do if the post is offensive. Some words never make it by the
automatic filters, others can be removed manually.

--
Larry Samuels Associate Expert
MS-MVP (2001-2005)
Unofficial FAQ for Windows Server 2003 at
http://pelos.us/SERVER.htm
Expert Zone-

 

[Beck]

Yes they do if the post is offensive. Some words never make it by the
automatic filters, others can be removed manually.

Hmm well maybe thats why my post didn't appear the other day. I sent it
twice but neither appeared. I do not recall using an offensive word as I
rarely use offensive language.

 

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

Yes they do if the post is offensive. Some words never make it by the
automatic filters, others can be removed manually.

I used the "s" word. Something about Windows convincing me of the
existence of the paranormal because of all the wonky <naughty word> that
keeps happening to me. It showed up in Google and on the
news.individual.net server, but not on the Microsoft server. I couldn't
figure it out...because it was not an offensive post except for the
naughty word.

So I elided the naughty word, and I reposted it. No problem. This led to
a very funny post from Kurt about naughty words and the Microsoft
server.

The next time I used the same naughty word (not thinking), it was not
flagged.

My conclusion is that someone is paying very close attention to what
goes on here.

rl

 

[Alias]

I had him begging in another thread. <even bigger evil grin>

rl

Oh, that's just part of the foreplay.

Alias

 

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

Oh, that's just part of the foreplay.

Gak!

There is nothing I can say here that will not get me into trouble. :-|

But I do think you and Kurt are almost ready for the big time. You just
need a catchy name for your act.

;-)

 

[David Candy]

Across the ocean sex?

 

[kurttrail]

Okay. Open forum has nothing to do with it. The book on my floor is
open, and I can't copy that. It's really not the issue anyway.

Sure you can copy that book for a fair use.

The issue is, I want the question answered, definitively, by
Microsoft, the scrivner of the EULA. <snip>

MS cannot give your the ultamite definitive answer, just as SCO is not
the one that will give IBM the definitive answer over their UNIX license
dispute. Only a judge can do can definitively answer this question, and
until MS sues someone for changing their mobo, you have every right to
interpret the EULA as you see fit.

--
Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."

 

[kurttrail]

I really do not think they censor them and delete posts.

Oh yes they do!

http://censored.microscum.com

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Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."

 

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

Across the ocean sex?

I'd have replied to this sooner, David, but I fainted when I read it,
and I've been in a coma for a couple of days.



rl

 

[kurttrail]

I'd have replied to this sooner, David, but I fainted when I read it,
and I've been in a coma for a couple of days.

Did you have a soft landing?

--
Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."