My pc mother board has died - Install xp oem

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CRaven said:
Hi Johnathon;

Just because you may have a version of Windows that Is or appears to be
activated does not make it legal.

Consider the following ficticious scenario based around what you have said.

Jo Upgrades/replaces his motherboard;
He reinstalls Windows XP Home on this (effectively) new PC;
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False. A motherboard without a power supply is what? Nothing. A
motherboard does not a computer make.

The EULA for a generic OEM does not mention the word "motherboard" once.
Do you want me to post the EULA for you?

Snip BS big time

Alias
 
Carey said:
When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM
Windows XP license, unless you replace the
motherboard with an exact duplicate.
Therefore, the installation of a different
model motherboard will require the purchase
of a new Windows XP license.
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Only if it's a branded OEM. This does not apply to a generic OEM and you
know it, Carey.

Alias
 
CRaven said:
Thanks Carrey - Now I remember why I originaly gave up the Idea of becoming
an MVP years ago - too many people state what can be down rather than what is
permitted etc!
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Try reading the EULA before you put your foot in your mouth.
Congratulations on your award
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All Carey's award did is denigrate the MVP system.

Alias
 
I suggest that you contact your company attorney if you are part of an
organization. 5 years ago it was $150,000.00 for each piece of illegal SW on
each PC. The SBA has a right to show up at a company's door step and demand
entry to scan your computers. They will bring law enforcement officers with
them. I now this for a fact, we where audited, we put up no resistance and it
was determined that the company was in compliance. (disgruntle employee)

Good Luck,

Ignorance is not an excuse in a court of law.
 
SteveL said:
I suggest that you contact your company attorney if you are part of an
organization. 5 years ago it was $150,000.00 for each piece of illegal SW on
each PC. The SBA has a right to show up at a company's door step and demand
entry to scan your computers. They will bring law enforcement officers with
them. I now this for a fact, we where audited, we put up no resistance and it
was determined that the company was in compliance. (disgruntle employee)

Good Luck,

Ignorance is not an excuse in a court of law.
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Just curious, what are you talking about? I have no illegal software on
any of my computers. I own my own business and my attorney buys his
software from the same place I do.

Also, just curious, to which law in Spain are you referring?

Alias
 
CRaven said:
Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard
(except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install
an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM
license!
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Please quote the license where it mentions the motherboard.
Read the excerpt from microsoft oem system builder website in the
first reply to this post!
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Post the link to it so everybody can see that it password protected! No
End User ever agree to that BS.

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"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
kurttrail said:
Please quote the license where it mentions the motherboard.



Post the link to it so everybody can see that it password protected! No
End User ever agree to that BS.
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I was wondering when you would wake up ;-)

Alias
 
CRaven said:
Wow a statement of fact - usefull in prosecution? The Question was
wether it is legal!
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Quote the License, you told the OP to read, where it mentions that the
motherboard cannot be replaced. You cannot because it is not in ANY
license.
By Installing Microsoft OEM software - you are bound to the system
builder license wether you like it or not; you are also resposible
for providing your own support!
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Actually that is a recent change, which the OP may not have agreed to,
but then the SBL says nothing about the motherboard cannot be changed
either. Quote it if you can.
Just becasue you can activate it or pass WGA does not mean that you
have a legal or genuine Windows licensed machine (read WGA SITE) - I
am not going to further elaborate on this - there are more than
enough pirates and license evaders about already.
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And more than enough idiots making licensing claims they cannot back up.
CRaven
Microsoft Licensing Sales Specialist
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LOL! Are you self-anointed too!

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Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
CRaven said:
Read the oem Licensing agreement - Installing a new motherboard
(except under centain warranty conditions) and proceeding to install
an already used/activated copy of Windows OEM is a breach of the OEM
license!
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QUOTE THE LICENSING AGREEMENT! Neither the EULA or the SBL say anything
about that the motherboard cannot be changed, and to continue to claim
it does is an outright LIE!

Read the excerpt from microsoft OEM system builder website in the
first
reply to this post!
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That is not part of ANY license that was agreed to. And give the link
so everybody can see that it is a password protected site.
The only way that a processor or motherboard can be changed (without
warranty issues) is on a Full Packaged Retail Product!
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LOL! Now you are including the processor too!
The lisence on OEM operating systems is married to the computer (the
Motherborad , CPU and other essential components) not the user and
that is specifically why reinstalling on a new motherboard is a
breach of the license!
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Says you. And we all now know that you are full of sh*t.
CRaven
Micrsosoft Licensing Sales Specialist
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LOL! You can't even spell Microsoft right, and you want people to
believe you are some licensing special olympian?




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Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
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"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
Alias said:
Try reading the EULA before you put your foot in your mouth.


All Carey's award did is denigrate the MVP system.
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I agree with this poast!

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Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
CRaven said:
Thanks Carrey - Now I remember why I originaly gave up the Idea of
becoming an MVP years ago - too many people state what can be down
rather than what is permitted etc!

Congratulations on your award
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He is probably the ONLY MVP you'll find to agree with you. And he is
the least respect MVP.

--
Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
SteveL said:
I suggest that you contact your company attorney if you are part of an
organization. 5 years ago it was $150,000.00 for each piece of
illegal SW on each PC. The SBA has a right to show up at a company's
door step and demand entry to scan your computers. They will bring
law enforcement officers with them. I now this for a fact, we where
audited, we put up no resistance and it was determined that the
company was in compliance. (disgruntle employee)
Click to expand...

LOL! It's the BSA.

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Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
CRaven said:
Hi Johnathon;

Just because you may have a version of Windows that Is or appears to
be activated does not make it legal.

Consider the following ficticious scenario based around what you have
said.

Jo Upgrades/replaces his motherboard;
He reinstalls Windows XP Home on this (effectively) new PC;
BillySprat informs Microsoft piracy that you have illegal software on
your PC;
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ROFL! Please go call MS and tell them I have "illegal software" on my
PC, and see what doesn't happen.
Jo has a receipt for original software, a hologram CD, manual and COA
but when it comes to court - he is asked to provide reciept for
motherboard and the judge checks it against the first activation date
.. blah blah blah
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LOL! What if there is no receipt? One cannot produce what one does not
have.

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Peace!
Kurt Kirsch
Self-anointed Moderator
http://microscum.com
"It'll soon shake your Windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'."
 
"Another common misconception is that you can transfer
a preinstalled or OEM copy of Windows from an "old" machine
to a new machine. An OEM software license may not be transferred
from and old machine to a new machine-even if that machine is no
longer in use. The OEM license is tied to the machine on which it
was originally installed and can't be transferred to other machines."

Ref: http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/YourPC_do.mspx

The motherboard is the "heart and soul" of the computer.
If you change the motherboard to a different motherboard,
then a "new computer" has been created and a new Windows
XP license is required since the old OEM license is no
longer valid with a new model motherboard.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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:

| Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
| > When a motherboard dies, so does the OEM
| > Windows XP license, unless you replace the
| > motherboard with an exact duplicate.
| > Therefore, the installation of a different
| > model motherboard will require the purchase
| > of a new Windows XP license.
|
| It does not state that in the EULA.
| Here is mine directly from my PC.
| http://www.photoscene.co.uk/eula.txt
|
| Nowhere does it say that a motherboard change will result in the user
| requiring a new license.
 
Carey said:
"Another common misconception is that you can transfer
a preinstalled or OEM copy of Windows from an "old" machine
to a new machine. An OEM software license may not be transferred
from and old machine to a new machine-even if that machine is no
longer in use. The OEM license is tied to the machine on which it
was originally installed and can't be transferred to other machines."

Ref: http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/YourPC_do.mspx

The motherboard is the "heart and soul" of the computer.
If you change the motherboard to a different motherboard,
then a "new computer" has been created and a new Windows
XP license is required since the old OEM license is no
longer valid with a new model motherboard.
Click to expand...

That does not say that changing the motherboard results in an entirely new
pc. It only states you cannot transfer it to a new PC.
 
Carey said:
"Another common misconception is that you can transfer
a preinstalled or OEM copy of Windows from an "old" machine
to a new machine. An OEM software license may not be transferred
from and old machine to a new machine-even if that machine is no
longer in use. The OEM license is tied to the machine on which it
was originally installed and can't be transferred to other machines."

Ref: http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/YourPC_do.mspx

The motherboard is the "heart and soul" of the computer.
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Um, computers don't have hearts or souls, Carey. What have you been
smoking? Without a power supply, the motherboard would not function,
heartless as that might seem. Like a body, you need more than a
motherboard to make a computer.
If you change the motherboard to a different motherboard,
then a "new computer" has been created
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No, an updated computer has been created.
and a new Windows
XP license is required since the old OEM license is no
longer valid with a new model motherboard.
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This is true with branded OEMs but not with generic OEMs. You also don't
get all the groovy things that branded OEMs bundle into their restore
disk or partition.

90 days free subscription to Norton. How nice.

Alias
 
Beck said:
That does not say that changing the motherboard results in an entirely new
pc. It only states you cannot transfer it to a new PC.
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Carey believes it does, "heart and soul".

Alias
 
Direct quote from Microsoft OEM licensing:

Q. If my customer asks me to upgrade his PC with new hardware components, when does a new operating system need to be acquired? When
would the PC be considered to be "new"?

A. Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on your customer's computer and the end user customer may
maintain the license for the original Microsoft OEM operating system software, with the exception of an upgrade or replacement of
the motherboard. An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal computer" to which Microsoft OEM operating
system software cannot be transferred from another computer. If the motherboard is upgraded or replaced for reasons other than a
defect, then a new computer has been created and the license of new operating system software is required. If the motherboard is
replaced because it is defective, you do NOT need to acquire a new operating system license for the PC.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

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:

| Carey Frisch [MVP] wrote:
| > "Another common misconception is that you can transfer
| > a preinstalled or OEM copy of Windows from an "old" machine
| > to a new machine. An OEM software license may not be transferred
| > from and old machine to a new machine-even if that machine is no
| > longer in use. The OEM license is tied to the machine on which it
| > was originally installed and can't be transferred to other machines."
| >
| > Ref: http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/YourPC_do.mspx
| >
| > The motherboard is the "heart and soul" of the computer.
| > If you change the motherboard to a different motherboard,
| > then a "new computer" has been created and a new Windows
| > XP license is required since the old OEM license is no
| > longer valid with a new model motherboard.
|
| That does not say that changing the motherboard results in an entirely new
| pc. It only states you cannot transfer it to a new PC.
 
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