MHT viewers

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omega

[ RE for adding the Auto It script to Internet Explorer's toolbar]
And here is a link to one of those programs that let you add buttons to the
IE toolbar ... freeware (of course) AddaButton. Works great!

http://www.harmonyhollow.net/aab.shtml

Harmony Hollow has cleaned up a great deal...

It used to be you didn't have a choice about installing the bundled
SaveNow. Their only compromise was to provide an uninstall routine
for SaveNow, for user to do a remove of it, after the install of the
Harmony Hollow product. Where before the bundled krap was installed
automatically, they have it now instead where the installer asks you,
at first screen, and you can say no.

They also used to sneak a link to their site into the MSIE favorites
folder. Now the installer asks for permission.

Finally, the third item. The promo link they offensively slip into
MSIE's context-menu. The FAQ at their website states that one has to
remove it manually, says to delete the regkey. Yet, testing an install
tonight, my log reads clean. So they've evidently stopped that behavior,
too...

Conclusion. Assuming this change is true for all their products, then
I'd say that many of the folks who avoided Harmony Hollow in the past
might now reconsider. At least those who are not offended that the
installer has the ability, on prompt, to install the SaveNow krap along
with the product.

In addition to the util for Adding IE Buttons that was the topic here,
other freewares available from Harmony Hollow can be identified here:
http://www.harmonyhollow.net/download.shtml

(I'm mentioning their list only. Not requesting to get blamed if any of
the other HH installs are still a bit dirty, or if someone clicks yes on
installing SaveNow.)
 
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Anthony Giorgianni

Great if it's doable Karen. Can't test it though, since I have OE.


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omega said:
[Re msft's MHT-HTML convertor http://tinyurl.com/49qlu ]
Thanks for reporting that Karen. Glad the mht converter works without MS
Office. It surprises me that virtually no one I know uses or even is aware
of mht, let alone that little MS conversion utility.

I believe I've found the method to get MHT support without having
Outlook Express installed. It's very clean. Takes only copying three
MSOE dlls from cab, and registering one of them. Anyone out there who
doesn't have MSOE installed, want to test?
 
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Frank Bohan

"Anthony Giorgianni" <[email protected]>
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Dunno if there's anyway to make mht the default in IE 8, Frank, sorry :O(

Guess you could make .mht-save an Auto It script and add it to the IE
toolbar using one of the freebee IE toolbar add-in apps. That would be the
first work-around that comes to my mind. Seems like it would be a lot of
work just to avoid selecting it off the popdown on the save-as though.

I do find that not every page is save-able in mht anyway - or they don't
save correctly. But many are. It's been my favorite way to save web pages
for years, though I also find that a good alternative is to simply copy and
paste the page in MS Word. Then I can delete rows, columns and other stuff I
don't like. Maybe it would work in the Open Office word processor too. I
don't know.

I don't use AutoIt so I'll carry on selecting each page in the pop-down
menu. However, I've recently found out that the default save option in
Netscape 7 is "website, complete" and a couple of pages which refused to be
saved in IE6 as .mht files could be saved with graphics included in
Netscape. The files have normal .html extensions and will open in IE6 or
Netscape, so I'm thinking of making Netscape my default browser. I'll have
to experiment to see whether it is possible to concatenate the saved pages.

Best wishes

===

Frank Bohan
¶ White dwarf seeks red giant for binary relationship.
 
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omega

Anthony Giorgianni said:
This Auto-It sequence works on my computer. It sets up to save the web page
as mht in the My Documents folder
; Prepares Web page for save as .mht In Internet Explorer 6

Send, {ALT}+f ; Selects IE's file menu
Send, A; Brings up Save-As dialog
Send, {Tab}; Selects "Save-as-type" field
Send, {Down 3}; Brings down popdown menu and moves cursor to .mht type
Send, {Enter; Selects mht
Send, {Tab 4}; moves to "Save in" field
Send, {Down 2}; Selects popdown menu and highlight My Documents
Send, {Enter}; Selects My Documents
Send, {Tab 2}; Move to "File name" field.

Exit

Hi, Anthony. I tried out the script. It worked well. On my system, it did
first take a couple of minor edits.

1. The typo of the missing closing bracket: Send, {Enter}; Selects mht

2. The ; comments. I had to move them into their own independent lines.
I am not familiar with Auto-It syntax, have not used it before now.
Just that I got the result that unless the comments were on their
own lines, they were interpreted as commands (IE started typing away
into its address bar when I used the script in initial form). Maybe
it's to do with Auto-It version. The compiler I used was version 2.64.

3. I run MSIE v5.5, and not v6. Here the mht save-as, it comes up as the
second item in the dropdown list. Or at least comes up as second item
when I looked today (don't know if there are any factors that would
affect consistency within a given MSIE version).
http://www.redshift.com/~omega/clips/msie/saveas.png

Send, {Down 2}
; for msie 5.5, brings down popdown menu and moves cursor to .mht type


.. . . .
I tried running the script from my desktop (with the IE window in focus), as
well as from the IE toolbar using AddaButton.

I used AddaButton. You know, I'd had it around for a while, and have taken
brief test glances, but this is the first time I'd sincerely utilized it.
The few times in the past when I needed to add toolbar buttons for IE,
I'd exported regkeys as examples, then invented a GUID, then imported.
That method satisfied my curiosity. Using AddaButton was a much different
experience. Very quick and easy, convenient GUI.
If anyone wants, I can post a compiled, stand-alone script on my web site.

This was my first time with any use of Auto-It. It was very easy to just
save your text in notepad, and give an .aut extension. And then point the
utility Aut2Exe.exe at that file.
(I think I used the older version of Auto-It. I have both but haven't
learned the newer one yet.)

I tried asking the version 3 Aut2exe utility to convert the script, and
it said no. But things worked fine with the version 2.

.. . . .
Congrats, Anthony:

This was avery good solution to Frank's request to have faster access to
MHT saves in MSIE. It wasn't something I needed myself. But by following
this along, this result:

1. You got me to appreciate AddaButton. I don't have common need for IE
toolbar buttons; but from now, when I do, I'll use this utility instead
of the more time-consuming method of writing registry keys by hand.

2. You got me to finally give some attention to Auto-It. I'd always expected
to look into it, hearing so many good things in ACF, but had never quite
got around to starting. Ok, so I still haven't yet studied it, or written
anything. But this experience of implementing an Auto-It script was a
good first encounter, opens the door up.
 
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Anthony Giorgianni

Excellent Karen!

Thanks for posting that.

Yes, I realized later that I omitted the bracket (brace?) in one of the
command lines. As far as the comments, I have to confess that I added them
in message and not in the original script (I only put them there because I
wanted to explain what the commands do just to give some reassurance.
Auto-It is very powerful of course, and it is possible to do nasty things
with it). But you're right. I guess the comments have to be on separate
lines. (Not like with old Basic programming) My error, sorry. But it was fun
watching the script write all that stuff in the address bar :O)

I was worried that the MHT-save might be in a different place on the popdown
on different versions of IE. But of course it was an easy fix if you know
Auto-It, which I think is a wonderful tool (My favorite Auto-It script is
one that opens Outlook Express and automatically clicks the Send/receive
button. I've sent that to a lot of people).

I think I'm going to keep that mht thing on the IE toolbar. Could come in
handy (I'm lazy!). Frank had a good idea there.

Glad you're finding Addabutton useful. I'd have no idea how to add a button
manually. I'm definitely not as sophisticated with computers as you are.

Thanks again.
 
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Anthony Giorgianni

Okay Frank.

But keep in mind that I can post or send you a COMPILED Auto-It script -
tiny 42k. (You don't need the software for the stand-alone script to work).
Then you can add it to the toolbar simply by downloading and installing the
free AddaButton.

But if Netscape works better for you, of course go with that instead.

Anyway, thanks for raising the issue though. Now I have that neat little IE
toolbar button automates the mht-save for me. Boy am I lazy!!! Never thought
about doing that before.


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Anthony Giorgianni

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omega

Anthony Giorgianni said:
Yes, I realized later that I omitted the bracket (brace?) in one of the
command lines. As far as the comments, I have to confess that I added them
in message and not in the original script (I only put them there because I
wanted to explain what the commands do just to give some reassurance.
Auto-It is very powerful of course, and it is possible to do nasty things
with it). But you're right. I guess the comments have to be on separate
lines. (Not like with old Basic programming) My error, sorry.

I've noted too, how it's quite inconsistent in different languages,
the syntax rules with the comments. I had eventually realized that you
might have put the comments in specifically during your post, instead of
that concerning a variation of rules within different versions of Auto-It.
Thanks for the clarification. And of course: thanks for having helpfully
included the comments.
But it was fun watching the script write all that stuff in the address bar :O)

Yep, it looked like IE was had amped itself up on tequila and decided to
really let loose.
I was worried that the MHT-save might be in a different place on the popdown
on different versions of IE. But of course it was an easy fix if you know
Auto-It,

Because of your annotations, I didn't need to know Auto-It to make the small
change for the MSIE 5.5 dialog on my system. I could figure out how to get
from 3 to 2, without yet having to reach for the manual. :)

Send, {Down 3}; Brings down popdown menu and moves cursor to .mht type

I also dropped a couple of the end lines, for my system. The part about
saving to "My Documents." W98 doesn't have that in the dialog box; and
too, I save in hundreds of different locations. Again, it was easy to
customize a short line here and there, since you'd commented all of it
well.
Auto-It, which I think is a wonderful tool (My favorite Auto-It script is
one that opens Outlook Express and automatically clicks the Send/receive
button. I've sent that to a lot of people).

I appreciate your getting me to at last take a first encounter with it.
I think I'm going to keep that mht thing on the IE toolbar. Could come in
handy (I'm lazy!). Frank had a good idea there.

Even if he didn't know it. I'd be almost certain Netscape has no mht save.
(There was a mention here of Firefox having an extension, but that's not
Netscape.) I assume he must have cycled over to different endeavors, by
the time where he brought in Netscape. Well, at minimum two of us did
get good results from his having raised the question.
Glad you're finding Addabutton useful. I'd have no idea how to add a button
manually. I'm definitely not as sophisticated with computers as you are.

I couldn't generalize to saying sophisticated about computers. It's only
that I have a registry fetish. :)
Thanks again.

My thanks to you. As well, for that efficient, standalone mht-html
converter. Hidden away as it is over in the obscure MS Office downloads,
might likely have never otherwise heard news of it.
 
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Frank Bohan

"Anthony Giorgianni" <[email protected]>
wrote in message
Okay Frank.

But keep in mind that I can post or send you a COMPILED Auto-It script -
tiny 42k. (You don't need the software for the stand-alone script to work).
Then you can add it to the toolbar simply by downloading and installing the
free AddaButton.

But if Netscape works better for you, of course go with that instead.

Anyway, thanks for raising the issue though. Now I have that neat little IE
toolbar button automates the mht-save for me. Boy am I lazy!!! Never thought
about doing that before.

Thanks for the offer, but I hesitate to add any more buttons on the
overcrowded taskbar, so I'll stay with Netscape for the present.

===

Frank Bohan
¶ The trouble with the rat race is that even winners are still rats.
 
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alex

omega said:
(e-mail address removed) (alex):


Extremely clueless, or deliberately obnoxious? Either way, it's an
offensive stench. Take a shower. Else go slop your trialware promos
where they belong.

Take easy man :)
 

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