Lost lease to own IP address

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Guest

WindowsXP - Lost lease to own IP address

start menu \ all programs \ accessories \ system tools \ system information

select software enviroment \ windows error reporting

error type: "Dhcp"
error details: "your computer has lost its lease to its IP address
192.168.100.10"

I think I killed it when I used CurrPorts v1.07 (it shows active Ports) to
delete port and stop the process, but there is no undo or activate port or
process option in CurrPorts.

Anyone know how I get the lease back?
 
G

Guest

If you run on cable,that usually means youve lost youre connection because
of account or connection problems.If other,go to run,type:INETWIZ
Follow the wizard for connection.
 
V

Vanguard

Grumpy said:
WindowsXP - Lost lease to own IP address

start menu \ all programs \ accessories \ system tools \ system
information

select software enviroment \ windows error reporting

error type: "Dhcp"
error details: "your computer has lost its lease to its IP address
192.168.100.10"

I think I killed it when I used CurrPorts v1.07 (it shows active Ports) to
delete port and stop the process, but there is no undo or activate port or
process option in CurrPorts.

Anyone know how I get the lease back?


Run at a command prompt:

ipconfig /release *
ipconfig /flushdns
ipconfig /renew

Or reboot.
 
G

Guest

Thanks Andrew E, yes I am on cable 8Mbps max.

I have internet connection working, but just lost my PC's private IP
address when I used CurrPorts to disable the Port and TCP service that it
was running on.

Thanks Vanguard did, release, flushdns, renew

I think that did somethink, but I did not get back my PC's private server IP
address, the IP the homeLAN uses, maybe I should just set up homeLAN again,
maybe the system will open a new port for the service automatically.

By the way C:/ipconfig/... shows that I have somethink called "Tunnel
adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface" running also, several of them.
Anyone ever heard of them, I will "Google" search them.

This is all too technical for me, I may just go and buy cheap second hand
PC, and throw this one out.

By the way my usual reboot take 15mins, 7 mins to shut down and 8 mins to
start up again, is that slow or about normal.

I hope Vista is quicker or I may try Mac or Linux for my next PC, or buy a
blackboard and packet of chalk.

Microsoft the problem with PC OS's is, unlike cars, where most people can
drive then ok without knowing how the engine works, with PC's this does not
appear to be the case.

I just want an automatic PC that goes, I have no interest in learning how
the PC's engine works !

Not Happy Microsoft.
 
B

Bob I

Sounds like you took an axe to the engine compartment, and now you
wonder why the engine stopped working.
Thanks Andrew E, yes I am on cable 8Mbps max.

I have internet connection working, but just lost my PC's private IP
address when I used CurrPorts to disable the Port and TCP service that it
was running on.

Thanks Vanguard did, release, flushdns, renew

I think that did somethink, but I did not get back my PC's private server IP
address, the IP the homeLAN uses, maybe I should just set up homeLAN again,
maybe the system will open a new port for the service automatically.

By the way C:/ipconfig/... shows that I have somethink called "Tunnel
adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface" running also, several of them.
Anyone ever heard of them, I will "Google" search them.

This is all too technical for me, I may just go and buy cheap second hand
PC, and throw this one out.

By the way my usual reboot take 15mins, 7 mins to shut down and 8 mins to
start up again, is that slow or about normal.

I hope Vista is quicker or I may try Mac or Linux for my next PC, or buy a
blackboard and packet of chalk.

Microsoft the problem with PC OS's is, unlike cars, where most people can
drive then ok without knowing how the engine works, with PC's this does not
appear to be the case.

I just want an automatic PC that goes, I have no interest in learning how
the PC's engine works !

Not Happy Microsoft.

Sounds like you took an axe to the engine compartment, and now you
wonder why the engine stopped working.
 
G

Guest

Hi Bob
Yeap, I broke the rubber band, that makes the PC fly.
My V8 PC is running on 4 cylinders, not good.

Help documentation says its ok to shut down some ports and services, that
you don't want running, even shut them down temporarly.

Problem is it does not explain how to re-activate or open the ports and
services again. It appears Ports should open automatically, when you start a
service. But the program has "disabled" the ports, rather than just shutting
them down or turning them off. Now the services can't open a port. Such is
life !

Thanks Ron Sommer,
I read your links, spyware, bugs, its a war out there.

I also found that "Tunnel adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface" is just
part of TCPv6 very complex for non IT people.

Its an optional protocol to use in WinXPsp2 and is available in Vista as
standard, the way of the future, the next generation of TCP/IP protocols.
 
V

Vanguard

Grumpy said:
Thanks Andrew E, yes I am on cable 8Mbps max.

I have internet connection working, but just lost my PC's private IP
address when I used CurrPorts to disable the Port and TCP service that it
was running on.

Sounds like you didn't know what the software did or how to use it. Maybe
you farked over the TCP settings and need to reset them:

netsh int ip reset c:\ipreset.log

and since you later mention Teredo (for IPv6):

netsh int ipv6 reset

I don't see anything in the description of CurrPorts
(http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/cports.html) that indicates it does any
reconfiguration of NT services for networking. It lets you close ports and
kill the processes that own them, but that is similar to killing a process
in Task Manager. That doesn't stop the service from running after a reboot
which ends up reloading the service. Obviously you could shoot yourself in
your own foot if you kill the wrong processes (and their ports) but that
doesn't do anything on what gets loaded on Windows startup as those
processes will get loaded again.

Have you yet gone into your NAT router, if you have one, to check its DHCP
server and see what actions it permits, like releasing an IP address to a
particular host and reassigning a new one? Have you tried do a release and
renew of the IP address that that router itself gets (from your ISP)? If it
can't connect then the router gets an APIPA address, but your hosts on the
LAN side of your router should still be getting their IP addresses from your
router's DHCP server.

The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved
169.254.0.0-169.254.255.255 for Automatic Private IP Addressing. You say
that you are getting 192.168.x.x addresses assigned to your intranetwork
hosts. Well, those aren't APIPA addresses but IP addresses assigned by your
router's DHCP server.
Thanks Vanguard did, release, flushdns, renew

I think that did somethink, but I did not get back my PC's private server
IP
address, the IP the homeLAN uses, maybe I should just set up homeLAN
again,
maybe the system will open a new port for the service automatically.

So what IP address *did* you get? APIPA addresses are useless to connect
anywhere except within your own intranetwork. Whose DHCP server are you
using? Your ISP's or your NAT router's?
By the way C:/ipconfig/... shows that I have somethink called "Tunnel
adapter Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface" running also, several of them.
Anyone ever heard of them, I will "Google" search them.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/teredo.mspx
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=817778
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/evaluate/ipv6_teredo.mspx

I have SP-2 for Windows XP (which has Teredo enabled by default for that
service pack) and I don't see anything about "Teredo" in the output of
ipconfig. However, I don't bother with wireless networks and devices and
then have to figure out how to secure them with 3rd party "HomeLAN"
software. Of course, we don't know anything about your network setup:
computer connected to dsl/cable modem, or a NAT router between, what other
hosts are on your intranetwork, etc.
This is all too technical for me, I may just go and buy cheap second hand
PC, and throw this one out.

Problem is not with the hardware (unless it is really old and just doesn't
have the horsepower to handle the OS and every process you load
concurrently, but then the networking problem is not a hardware problem).
Problem may be with the OS or other loaded software but apparently "user
modification" has corrupted it.

PEBCAK
By the way my usual reboot take 15mins, 7 mins to shut down and 8 mins to
start up again, is that slow or about normal.

Depends on your memory size, disk fragmentation, disk speed, processor
speed, other hardware factors along with how much crap, er, fluff you are
loading on Windows startup.
I hope Vista is quicker or I may try Mac or Linux for my next PC, or buy a
blackboard and packet of chalk.

Why would going to the next version of Windows infuse any more expertise in
you? Changing to another operating system won't change your level of
expertise, either. If you don't want to use a general-purpose operating
system then get a single-purpose embedded OS, like an iPod, calculator, cell
phone, etc.
Microsoft the problem with PC OS's is, unlike cars, where most people can
drive then ok without knowing how the engine works, with PC's this does
not
appear to be the case.

Computers are not washing machines. Computers are not appliances. A
general-purpose computer is adaptable and configurable, unlike your car or
washing machine. Obviously if you don't train yourself on the device,
you'll never record the outgoing message for your answering machine (and
which is NOT the same for every answering machine device), get your DVD or
VCR player to stop flashing "12 noon" (and how to configure each is
DIFFERENT for every brand and model), or save common phone numbers in your
cell phone (and each brand and model uses a DIFFERENT procedure to record
the numbers).

"..., unlike cars, where most people can drive them ok ..."
You want to see how many people show up at a car dealer shop that haven't a
clue how to use a manual transmission? Do you think the controls for the
AM/FM/DVD radio player are the same in every car? I know owners that have
had their car for over a year and still don't know where is the hazard
flasher button or what the Manual button does, if it exists, on their auto
tranny shifter. Cars are not a general-purpose conveyance. You don't buy a
Geo and expect to tow a huge boat or use it as a bobcat.
I just want an automatic PC that goes, I have no interest in learning how
the PC's engine works !

Don't use a general-purpose computer. Get an iPod for your music, or an
Xbox for your games, a fax machine for faxing, a PDA for e-mail and notes,
etc.
Not Happy Microsoft.

And you won't be happy with any other OS, either. It's not the fault of the
software that you told it to do what you told it to do. You really want it
*not* to do what you tell it to do?
 
G

Guest

Thank you very much for all your time and help Vanguard its really
appreciated, but I think I will have to give up on this PC as its now very
slow, system locks zone alarm, freezes, and homeLAN does not work, all
because I closed one port that the homeLAN used. Reboots, releases, etc can't
get IP 192... or homeLAN back.

The PC is getting old its a HP year 2002 model OS WinXPsp2 CPU 1.8Ghz, RAM
1024MB, FSB 400Mhz, I only use it for video editing and watching internet TV,
its CPU is too slow for 1920x1080p HD video, I will have to up grade to CPU
3.4Ghz, RAM 4GB, FSB 1Ghz, HDD 2TB.

I didn't have a task manager that displays all the processes running, it
stopped doing that 6 months ago, so I assumed that one of the MS updates
probably changed it.

I installed CurrPorts, as it was the only way to see what was running and on
which port and true I was not sure exactly what the program does, so deleting
the old IP 192... on the PC connected directly to the Internet probably was
not a good idea.

I had just decided to upgrade the 8 port hub from the internet sharing PC to
a addressable router, so thought I wouldn't need the IP 192..But after
removing IP 192 ... and its port the PC is not happy. As far as I know with
hubs the internet sharing PC was acting as a server with IP 192.. as it
address? I use the ISP DHCP server and DNS servers, the latter are now all
different?
Why would going to the next version of Windows infuse any more
expertise in you?

Hopefully MS has made it more user friendly and automatic, This is the whole
point I don't want to have to learn all about how computers internals work, I
have no interest in how they work, just as long as they work, I just want to
use them very easy, like an automatic car.
And you won't be happy with any other OS, either

Probably true, one of the homeLAN machines is running Linux Xandros 3.0, a
WinXP clone OS, its very quick, reliable and never freezes, but Linux comming
from a textbase history, is behind MAC OS9 which grew up from a graphical
history.

Everyone says I should dump Windows and go to FinalCutPro video editing on a
MAC OS9 now that they are finally getting the intel chips.
 
V

Vanguard

Grumpy said:
Thank you very much for all your time and help Vanguard its really
appreciated, but I think I will have to give up on this PC as its now very
slow, system locks zone alarm, freezes, and homeLAN does not work, all
because I closed one port that the homeLAN used. Reboots, releases, etc
can't
get IP 192... or homeLAN back.

The PC is getting old its a HP year 2002 model OS WinXPsp2 CPU 1.8Ghz, RAM
1024MB, FSB 400Mhz, I only use it for video editing and watching internet
TV,
its CPU is too slow for 1920x1080p HD video, I will have to up grade to
CPU
3.4Ghz, RAM 4GB, FSB 1Ghz, HDD 2TB.

I'm still using my 4-year old home-built box and it has half the memory that
you do. The CPU is a bit faster (2.5GHz but it's an AMD Barton so it
overclocks to 3.2GHz when I upped the FSB from 333 to 400 because the
PC-3200 memory was the same price at the time which would let me overclock
later if I wanted). I have a 21-inch monitor but I don't want to glue my
eyeballs to it so I don't go over 1152x864.

Squeezing more stuff into the same sized monitor means making it smaller and
harder to see. Why not get a virtual desktop manager. There is one
included in the WIndows XP PowerToys set plus many video card makers, like
ATI, have one, too. Then you can have lots of windows open concurrently but
just flip between virtual desktops. One of the nice features of the various
Unix X-window desktops is virtual desktops and it is missing, by default, in
Windows.
I didn't have a task manager that displays all the processes running, it
stopped doing that 6 months ago, so I assumed that one of the MS updates
probably changed it.

I installed CurrPorts, as it was the only way to see what was running and
on
which port and true I was not sure exactly what the program does, so
deleting
the old IP 192... on the PC connected directly to the Internet probably
was
not a good idea.

So why not save your data, format the partition, and reinstall the OS? And
then be careful of what you install thereafter. The OS has obviously gotten
so screwed up that it is an unreliable platform. Reinstall it (although
Dell's "restore" is probably just a partition image that overwrites whatever
is in the partition).
I had just decided to upgrade the 8 port hub from the internet sharing PC
to
a addressable router, so thought I wouldn't need the IP 192..But after
removing IP 192 ... and its port the PC is not happy. As far as I know
with
hubs the internet sharing PC was acting as a server with IP 192.. as it
address? I use the ISP DHCP server and DNS servers, the latter are now
all
different?

A hub has to share bandwidth amongst all connected hosts whereas a switch
lets each pair of hosts that are connected to talk at full bandwidth. The
hub has nothing to do with what IP addresses you got because it doesn't have
a DHCP server. With a hub, there is no sharing of the Internet as your ISP
allocates only a single IP address to your account so only the host with
that IP address (through the hub) can connect. You can get multiple IP
addresses from your ISP but that is more expensive than getting a NAT router
which has its own DHCP server to allocate IP addresses to your intranetwork
hosts and the one IP address from your ISP gets assigned to the WAN-side
interface of the NAT router.

I don't know what you mean by "removing IP 192". Every host MUST have an IP
number so other hosts know where to return the requested data traffic.
 
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Guest

HI - i would like to add that i am having the same issue and did what you
suggested but the result came back the same, i did all this before i read
your comment, anyway i'm not so sure that it's a bad thing only i lost a lot
of my allocated data due to a configuration error i think, my problem is
whether to leave it as is or try and go to my original configuration. i am
running windows xp home edition sp2 and use a LAN connection.
 

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