Is there a way to legally copy drm-protected songs to my MP3

[Guest]

Hello,
I am new to the digital music world, still have records and cassettes.
Oops... dating myself. Anyway,
I just bought a creative Muvo N200 MP3 flash player. Which I use the bundled
software to copy files from "store bought' cd's to my computer and then
transfer or "rip" to the Mp3 player.
This works great for my older CD's....but.....I am lost on how this drm
protected cd stuff works. Software Help info is limited/confusing....etc.
Please understand that I am definitely against piracy copying and want to do
everything legal.
one such CD= Nickelback-All the Right Reasons (EMI Music Canada)
Problem is that I cannot transfer any files to my MP3. This cd's readme file
explains that if you use their player you are allowed to copy to your
computer and then use any player on the computer to play, but does not
specify on transferring to a MP3? My MP3 software (creative mediasource
organizer) help files say that I should be able to transfer these drm
protected songs as long as it was copied to the computer using the supplied
software on the CD.....but I cannot, no matter how I try. Sometimes it
appears to copy to the MP3 player, but I cannot play them, the player just
skips to the next track. I have even tried to use the cd's software to "copy
disc" directly to the mp3 player as I originally did the copy to the
computer....still does not work.
Am I doing something wrong? Can protected music exist on the computer and
the MP3 at the same time, is there a rule against that? Or is this a futile
effort and simply a limitation of drm-protected cd's? Does this have
something to do with rootkit crap I have read about?
I hope there is a legal solution here because I feel that I paid darn good
money for these CD's and I should be allowed to listen to it on my MP3, if I
choose.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Galley]

Hello,
I am new to the digital music world, still have records and cassettes.
Oops... dating myself. Anyway,
I just bought a creative Muvo N200 MP3 flash player. Which I use the bundled
software to copy files from "store bought' cd's to my computer and then
transfer or "rip" to the Mp3 player.
This works great for my older CD's....but.....I am lost on how this drm
protected cd stuff works. Software Help info is limited/confusing....etc.
Please understand that I am definitely against piracy copying and want to do
everything legal.
one such CD= Nickelback-All the Right Reasons (EMI Music Canada)
Problem is that I cannot transfer any files to my MP3. This cd's readme file
explains that if you use their player you are allowed to copy to your
computer and then use any player on the computer to play, but does not
specify on transferring to a MP3? My MP3 software (creative mediasource
organizer) help files say that I should be able to transfer these drm
protected songs as long as it was copied to the computer using the supplied
software on the CD.....but I cannot, no matter how I try. Sometimes it
appears to copy to the MP3 player, but I cannot play them, the player just
skips to the next track. I have even tried to use the cd's software to "copy
disc" directly to the mp3 player as I originally did the copy to the
computer....still does not work.
Am I doing something wrong? Can protected music exist on the computer and
the MP3 at the same time, is there a rule against that? Or is this a futile
effort and simply a limitation of drm-protected cd's? Does this have
something to do with rootkit crap I have read about?
I hope there is a legal solution here because I feel that I paid darn good
money for these CD's and I should be allowed to listen to it on my MP3, if I
choose.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Copy-protected discs do not adhere to the Redbook standard, and thus are not
Audio CDs. You should return it to the store and demand a refund.

 

[Guest]

I do not understand what you mean "are not audio cd's" and I am unfamiliar
with the "Redbook" std? Can you please clarify?
Please excuse my ignorance in these matters.
Also not sure that they will accept it back at the store for refund, since
opened and played.

 

[Cari \(MS-MVP\)]

One way is to get a blank CD and create an AUDIO CD (rather than a data CD)
with your third party burning software.

Then rip the newly created CD back to the hard drive.

 

[Guest]

Thanks Cari,
Tried and worked, much appreciated.
This drm thing is a bit of a pain...although I understand profits are profits.
--
Thank you,
Canuck1

One way is to get a blank CD and create an AUDIO CD (rather than a data CD)
with your third party burning software.

Then rip the newly created CD back to the hard drive.

 

[Guest]

Ever tried Audiograbber? It's a freeware program to rip cds. It has worked
great for me on every cd I've tried.

http://www.audiograbber.com-us.net/

Hopefully this way you wouldn't have to burn a new cd and then rerip the
songs!

Thanks Cari,
Tried and worked, much appreciated.
This drm thing is a bit of a pain...although I understand profits are profits.

 

[Guest]

I'll try that, thank you.
It is a pain to have to burn a new cd.

 

[Cari \(MS-MVP\)]

Another way if you have a separate soundcard with the ability to record
'what you hear' is to do it that way. It does eliminate the blank CD, but
you have to manually put all the entries in for WMP (usually).
--
Cari (MS-MVP) Windows Client - Printing & Imaging
www.coribright.com/Windows

Thanks Cari,
Tried and worked, much appreciated.
This drm thing is a bit of a pain...although I understand profits are
profits.

 

[Galley]

I do not understand what you mean "are not audio cd's" and I am unfamiliar
with the "Redbook" std? Can you please clarify?
Please excuse my ignorance in these matters.
Also not sure that they will accept it back at the store for refund, since
opened and played.

The Red Book Standard is the standards used in Audio CD manufacturing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Book_(audio_CD_standard)

"Recently, some major recording publishers have begun to sell CDs that violate
the Red Book standard for the purposes of copy prevention, using systems like
Copy Control, or extra features such as DualDisc, which features a CD-layer and
a DVD-layer. The CD-layer is much thinner, 0.9mm, than required by the Red Book,
which stipulates 1.2mm. Philips and many other companies have warned them that
including the Compact Disc Digital Audio logo on such non-conforming discs may
constitute trademark infringement; either in anticipation or in response, the
long-familiar logo is no longer to be seen on recent CDs, as well as stickers
and warnings that the CD is not standard and may not play in all CD players."

 

[Bryan Gillett]

Hello,
I am new to the digital music world, still have records and cassettes.
Oops... dating myself. Anyway,
I just bought a creative Muvo N200 MP3 flash player. Which I use the bundled
software to copy files from "store bought' cd's to my computer and then
transfer or "rip" to the Mp3 player.
This works great for my older CD's....but.....I am lost on how this drm
protected cd stuff works. Software Help info is limited/confusing....etc.
Please understand that I am definitely against piracy copying and want to do
everything legal.
one such CD= Nickelback-All the Right Reasons (EMI Music Canada)
Problem is that I cannot transfer any files to my MP3. This cd's readme file
explains that if you use their player you are allowed to copy to your
computer and then use any player on the computer to play, but does not
specify on transferring to a MP3? My MP3 software (creative mediasource
organizer) help files say that I should be able to transfer these drm
protected songs as long as it was copied to the computer using the supplied
software on the CD.....but I cannot, no matter how I try. Sometimes it
appears to copy to the MP3 player, but I cannot play them, the player just
skips to the next track. I have even tried to use the cd's software to "copy
disc" directly to the mp3 player as I originally did the copy to the
computer....still does not work.
Am I doing something wrong? Can protected music exist on the computer and
the MP3 at the same time, is there a rule against that? Or is this a futile
effort and simply a limitation of drm-protected cd's? Does this have
something to do with rootkit crap I have read about?
I hope there is a legal solution here because I feel that I paid darn good
money for these CD's and I should be allowed to listen to it on my MP3, if I
choose.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I don't know about legal, but I read that software called muvaudio will
do it for you.