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Guest
Yellow shield is telling me that - Windows Internet Exployer 7.0 for Windows
XP is ready for download and install. But I'm going to wait.
XP is ready for download and install. But I'm going to wait.
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Guest
Why? What do you think is going to change?
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Guest
I just need to read positive results first, I'm too new at this.
D
Dave M
The reason I'm waiting is that I'm expecting to see problems and
resolutions start to populate the Discussions in Windows Update forum, so
there might be resolutions or workarounds available in the event I should
need them. Sitting tight for now, and the sky hasn't fallen yet. ;-)
resolutions start to populate the Discussions in Windows Update forum, so
there might be resolutions or workarounds available in the event I should
need them. Sitting tight for now, and the sky hasn't fallen yet. ;-)
G
Guest
Hello Ron and Dave,
Same here, I ignore the AutoUpdate, I'm going to wait too.
Same here, I ignore the AutoUpdate, I'm going to wait too.
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Guest
Understood, since the only people who generally post are those who've had
problems, or simply like to complain about something.
Since my own systems presently have Vista RC2 and W2K installed, they aren't
examples I can use, though I did have the earlier IE 7 Beta 1 & 2 running on
XP with no significant issues before I clean installed Vista. I did just
install IE 7 last weekend on two Windows XP SP2 systems I help manage.
One is an older (Dec. 2002) Sony Vaio with the original OS still installed
and upgraded over the years, including even early hits by malware (Kaaza
installed by teenager) and Windows Live OneCare 1.1. This PC is on dial-up,
but other than long download time the install went flawlessly including the
double reboot performed automatically during restart.
The other PC is an even older (July 2001) Gateway Athlon which was clean
upgraded to Win XP SP2 in January and also has WIndows Live OneCare 1.1
installed. This went just as easily and much more quickly on a DSL connection
with no issues.
In both cases, I downloaded the 14.9MB IE 7 upgrade file to the desktop
before beginning the install, though I remained online during the upgrades. I
also chose to clear the Temporary Internet Files of the Administrator account
used to install, though I didn't bother with others. No other special
preparations, except of course the OS was fully up to date before I started.
Unless you've had stability or malware problems recently I wouldn't expect
any problems with the install. It's always best to assume total failure
though and have all your data backed up and the installation disks for the OS
and critical programs along with the time to reinstall these if required. I
did these Saturday with Sunday available for backout/reinstall and backups
made with WLOC on CD, which I've never needed on either PC. I have had 2
drive failures on my (now Vista) laptop, however, so the WLOC data backup
there has been invaluable.
The most important thing is these preparations, since waiting itself has no
value. Instead, determine a date when you have both the backout time required
and can collect the critical software (or know where it is) and make the
bakups before starting. Even if something causes you to abort, this
preparation is still valuable for the future. By the time you've done all of
this, it's likely a few weeks will have passed anyway. If you haven't done
some of this, you're betting on 'luck' and sometime you'll be very unhappy
when you aren't.
Bitman
problems, or simply like to complain about something.
Since my own systems presently have Vista RC2 and W2K installed, they aren't
examples I can use, though I did have the earlier IE 7 Beta 1 & 2 running on
XP with no significant issues before I clean installed Vista. I did just
install IE 7 last weekend on two Windows XP SP2 systems I help manage.
One is an older (Dec. 2002) Sony Vaio with the original OS still installed
and upgraded over the years, including even early hits by malware (Kaaza
installed by teenager) and Windows Live OneCare 1.1. This PC is on dial-up,
but other than long download time the install went flawlessly including the
double reboot performed automatically during restart.
The other PC is an even older (July 2001) Gateway Athlon which was clean
upgraded to Win XP SP2 in January and also has WIndows Live OneCare 1.1
installed. This went just as easily and much more quickly on a DSL connection
with no issues.
In both cases, I downloaded the 14.9MB IE 7 upgrade file to the desktop
before beginning the install, though I remained online during the upgrades. I
also chose to clear the Temporary Internet Files of the Administrator account
used to install, though I didn't bother with others. No other special
preparations, except of course the OS was fully up to date before I started.
Unless you've had stability or malware problems recently I wouldn't expect
any problems with the install. It's always best to assume total failure
though and have all your data backed up and the installation disks for the OS
and critical programs along with the time to reinstall these if required. I
did these Saturday with Sunday available for backout/reinstall and backups
made with WLOC on CD, which I've never needed on either PC. I have had 2
drive failures on my (now Vista) laptop, however, so the WLOC data backup
there has been invaluable.
The most important thing is these preparations, since waiting itself has no
value. Instead, determine a date when you have both the backout time required
and can collect the critical software (or know where it is) and make the
bakups before starting. Even if something causes you to abort, this
preparation is still valuable for the future. By the time you've done all of
this, it's likely a few weeks will have passed anyway. If you haven't done
some of this, you're betting on 'luck' and sometime you'll be very unhappy
when you aren't.
Bitman
G
Guest
Bitman said:Understood, since the only people who generally post are those who've had
problems, or simply like to complain about something.
There's at least one more sound reason - which is that when you're not
confident of what you're doing (and I'm a prime example), these changes can
be hugely time-consuming and quite stressful. For example, I'm just starting
to feel comfortable with this new AVG Internet security suite after several
weeks, so maybe quite soon I'll feel up to having a go at installing the new
version of Defender, which I still haven't done yet. The idea of grappling
with such a huge change as IE7 (it seems huge to me) is simply too much to
contemplate at present.
P
plun
Hi Engel
Why ?
You will directly have a new browser with great functionality.
You can quit using all "stupid" IE windows and instead using
tabs.
I personally likes Firefox better but using both of them.
60/40 perhaps.
I also found this great program to remove all tivoli ads
destroying every web page today, the ads makers must be
totally crazy...
http://www.admuncher.com/
Really great.... my stats..
Ad Muncher Usage Statistics for v4.7 Build 27105/1385
Adverts removed by Ad Muncher: 23,952
Approximate bandwidth saved: 187 MB
Counter started: oktober 21, 2006
regards
plun
Engel skrev:
Why ?
You will directly have a new browser with great functionality.
You can quit using all "stupid" IE windows and instead using
tabs.
I personally likes Firefox better but using both of them.
60/40 perhaps.
I also found this great program to remove all tivoli ads
destroying every web page today, the ads makers must be
totally crazy...
http://www.admuncher.com/
Really great.... my stats..
Ad Muncher Usage Statistics for v4.7 Build 27105/1385
Adverts removed by Ad Muncher: 23,952
Approximate bandwidth saved: 187 MB
Counter started: oktober 21, 2006
regards
plun
Engel skrev:
G
Guest
Have you used Admuncher with IE, and 23,952 since Oct 21- wow
G
Guest
Actually, for most the new visual interface is probably the biggest change
they'll be aware of, due to the reworked Tool/Address bars, buttons and
tabbed browsing. How much these will impact you probably relates most to how
much you've used other browsers, since it does create visual change.
Otherwise, most day to day browsing doesn't really change much since the
visual cues and links all still work the same as IE 6, unless there's malware
involved of course. It's always best to make only one major change at a time
so any problems can be detected as belonging to the correct application. A
week or two is usually sufficient to find these however.
This visual overload is exactly why Microsoft created Windows Live OneCare
and has steadfastly refused (or more accurately, quietly not responded) to
requests to make it much more complex. They've added some capability in the
newer version, but with very few visual changes and actually some improvement
in what already existed. Most will probably never open the GUI between
Tune-Ups, unless they get an alert that something needs attention.
Internet Explorer 7 is also quite clean and lean visually, with function
oriented pull-down menus and better cues, but as with any change it will take
getting used to. I actually detest using IE 6 now though, so the Windows 2000
desktop is forfeit as soon as I can buy the Vista/Multimedia package I want.
I'm tired of managing my security packages, I just want to use my next PC and
enjoy what it can do for me.
Bitman
they'll be aware of, due to the reworked Tool/Address bars, buttons and
tabbed browsing. How much these will impact you probably relates most to how
much you've used other browsers, since it does create visual change.
Otherwise, most day to day browsing doesn't really change much since the
visual cues and links all still work the same as IE 6, unless there's malware
involved of course. It's always best to make only one major change at a time
so any problems can be detected as belonging to the correct application. A
week or two is usually sufficient to find these however.
This visual overload is exactly why Microsoft created Windows Live OneCare
and has steadfastly refused (or more accurately, quietly not responded) to
requests to make it much more complex. They've added some capability in the
newer version, but with very few visual changes and actually some improvement
in what already existed. Most will probably never open the GUI between
Tune-Ups, unless they get an alert that something needs attention.
Internet Explorer 7 is also quite clean and lean visually, with function
oriented pull-down menus and better cues, but as with any change it will take
getting used to. I actually detest using IE 6 now though, so the Windows 2000
desktop is forfeit as soon as I can buy the Vista/Multimedia package I want.
I'm tired of managing my security packages, I just want to use my next PC and
enjoy what it can do for me.
Bitman
G
Guest
i just downloaded ie7 and it works great, took two min on dsl, try it you
will like it.
will like it.
R
Robin
ok i took the plunge on the newest computer I have.
I did it as a windows update going to the WU site
First I existed out of AVG and AVG antispyware
then I set a restore point (just in case something went wrong)
then i installed it.
So far I am alive and it went well with no problems.
I am going to try it on my other 2 computers tomorrow
will let you know
robin
I did it as a windows update going to the WU site
First I existed out of AVG and AVG antispyware
then I set a restore point (just in case something went wrong)
then i installed it.
So far I am alive and it went well with no problems.
I am going to try it on my other 2 computers tomorrow
will let you know
robin
R
Robin
btw what is ClearType Tuner in IE. It wants me toinstall this but but I do
not know what it is and do I really need it?
also what does it effect besides IE?
robin
not know what it is and do I really need it?
also what does it effect besides IE?
robin
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Randy Knobloch
You *may* browse the threads below for helpful official information;
http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=55
Randy
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siljaline
MS - MVP Windows (IE/OE) & Windows Security, AH-VSOP
Security Tools Updates
http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=31
Reply to group, as return address is invalid that we may all benefit.
http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=55
Randy
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MS - MVP Windows (IE/OE) & Windows Security, AH-VSOP
Security Tools Updates
http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=31
Reply to group, as return address is invalid that we may all benefit.
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Guest
Hi plun,
I'm going to wait 2 o 3 weeks, I]m going to read and check the experience of
others users, takeing tips etc etc.
Reading here http://forums.pcworld.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5809 I notice
a lot of peole use FF, like you said 60/40.
Any way 2 o 3 weeks past fast, I don't think loosing much.
Take care
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I'm going to wait 2 o 3 weeks, I]m going to read and check the experience of
others users, takeing tips etc etc.
Reading here http://forums.pcworld.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5809 I notice
a lot of peole use FF, like you said 60/40.
Any way 2 o 3 weeks past fast, I don't think loosing much.
Take care
--
G
Guest
do what microsoft wants you to do, i installed it. i am not computer
literate. i really cant help you.
literate. i really cant help you.
B
Bill Sanderson MVP
I think it will just take you to the online version--which I guess does
involve an ActiveX control you must install. It will affect ClearType
everywhere in Windows. If you are using a flat-panel LCD display, I'd
recommend this--otherwise I wouldn't worry about it too much, although some
have said it is useful, still.
--
involve an ActiveX control you must install. It will affect ClearType
everywhere in Windows. If you are using a flat-panel LCD display, I'd
recommend this--otherwise I wouldn't worry about it too much, although some
have said it is useful, still.
--
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Dave M
Hiya Robin;
Well, I'm gonna be late to the party with IE 7, but I do know what the
clear type tuner is more or less. Was a part of XP Power Toys last I
checked and downloaded em, and it's pretty harmless as far as I can tell.
It just supposedly makes your text fonts appear cleaner or more readable if
you have a LCD display, although I'm going half blind from reading all this
stuff anyway, so I'm not sure it matters much.
Well, I'm gonna be late to the party with IE 7, but I do know what the
clear type tuner is more or less. Was a part of XP Power Toys last I
checked and downloaded em, and it's pretty harmless as far as I can tell.
It just supposedly makes your text fonts appear cleaner or more readable if
you have a LCD display, although I'm going half blind from reading all this
stuff anyway, so I'm not sure it matters much.
D
Dave M
....but apparently the sky has truly fallen in for our friend OldRebel (aka
Paul B):
http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...a09f&mid=641d9ecd-c9d9-4eeb-80e7-358b9591a09f
Paul B):
http://www.microsoft.com/communitie...a09f&mid=641d9ecd-c9d9-4eeb-80e7-358b9591a09f
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robinb
well i did some digging and found that you can disable it now then install
through MS Power tools
Clear Type Utility and that gives you control over the display.
It installs it in Control Panel and I am using it for the notebook and it
makes it clearer to see.
It changes the total viewing (font look) of the entire computer.
With this tool you have the advantage to set it up the way you want which i
like better than using the online tool that MS has in IE7.
I just set up IE7 on my notebook with no problem using the same system I did
for one of my computers.
I basically know how to get around it since I was beta testing it on a test
computer i have but if you look at IE7"s offical site and take the tour it
will show you all the changes.
Even if you do not you can figure out most of it yourself. Just have
patience and time.
I still will use firefox as my main browser because i still like it better
and it is still easier to use.
robin
through MS Power tools
Clear Type Utility and that gives you control over the display.
It installs it in Control Panel and I am using it for the notebook and it
makes it clearer to see.
It changes the total viewing (font look) of the entire computer.
With this tool you have the advantage to set it up the way you want which i
like better than using the online tool that MS has in IE7.
I just set up IE7 on my notebook with no problem using the same system I did
for one of my computers.
I basically know how to get around it since I was beta testing it on a test
computer i have but if you look at IE7"s offical site and take the tour it
will show you all the changes.
Even if you do not you can figure out most of it yourself. Just have
patience and time.
I still will use firefox as my main browser because i still like it better
and it is still easier to use.
robin
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