I am shocked.

J

Jim Eshelman

Dan said:
Jim you are doing great. David can be annoying and already has been
mean to me in the XP General newsgroup. I now consider David Candy a
troll until I am proved wrong by someone else.

Dan, thank you for the compliment ... and I won't slam you too hard since
you've already had, ahem, discussions with Gary and others.

David and I have known each other (online) for many years. I *really* hate
to take an exclusionary approach (translate: keep your nose out of it) -
that's totally different from how I see the purpose of these newsgroups in
general - but really, David and I don't need marriage counselling. (I'm a
little raw this week, as you might understand. Can you take "butt out" in a
positive light this one time? TIA.)


--
Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows Shell/User, Windows Security
Windows Support Center: http://aumha.org/
AumHa Forums: http://aumha.net/
(Alex Nichol, 1935-2005. Friend, mentor, collaborator. Deeply missed
already. Rest in peace.)
 
J

Jim Eshelman

kurttrail said:
Hey Jim,

That was a funny story you told on your forum about Alex. On this sad
day, it was a fitting tribute to share such a story, that showed his
dry wit. Please repost it here, to share it with this group.

Sure, Kurt. I'm tickled you liked it. Here was most of that post:

Considering how readily Alex could laugh, I think we need a story or two
along those lines. Here's one I'm sure I'll go to my own grave remembering.
Hopefully, it isn't too much "you had to be there to get it."

We were in Redmond at an MVP summit in Redmond shortly after Windows XP had
been released. Alex had already written the definitive article on Windows
Product Activation, which was a very charged topic at the time. We were
visiting the first morning, perhaps half an hour before the first session
was to begin, when an announcement rang through the air that anyone who
hadn't registered should do so immediately.

Alex looked up and, without missing a beat, said: "Activation is mandatory.
Registration is optional."


--
Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows Shell/User, Windows Security
Windows Support Center: http://aumha.org/
AumHa Forums: http://aumha.net/
(Alex Nichol, 1935-2005. Friend, mentor, collaborator. Deeply missed
already. Rest in peace.)
 
D

Dan

I understand Jim. Sorry everyone and I am really sorry for your loss. Alex
will always be a great man to me.

: Dan wrote:
: > Jim you are doing great. David can be annoying and already has been
: > mean to me in the XP General newsgroup. I now consider David Candy a
: > troll until I am proved wrong by someone else.
:
: Dan, thank you for the compliment ... and I won't slam you too hard since
: you've already had, ahem, discussions with Gary and others.
:
: David and I have known each other (online) for many years. I *really* hate
: to take an exclusionary approach (translate: keep your nose out of it) -
: that's totally different from how I see the purpose of these newsgroups in
: general - but really, David and I don't need marriage counselling. (I'm a
: little raw this week, as you might understand. Can you take "butt out" in a
: positive light this one time? TIA.)
:
:
: --
: Jim Eshelman, MS-MVP Windows Shell/User, Windows Security
: Windows Support Center: http://aumha.org/
: AumHa Forums: http://aumha.net/
: (Alex Nichol, 1935-2005. Friend, mentor, collaborator. Deeply missed
: already. Rest in peace.)
:
:
 
J

jane

Sorry, Gary. David Candy apologized and we are now on-line friends. I will
try to be less annoying in the future. <weak smile>

dont matter much what you do or say or apologise to g-s-t Dan,
you will always be considered as an underling in his eyes.
*talk about annoying*.
You are 'annoying' him, sort of like a fly, and if his swatter could
reach where you are, he would use it.
Wake up Dan, gary may be your mentor, but to him you are a
piece of ****, .........
Stick with yeshua, he overcomes the gst's.
(we have a tax in oz called 'gst' , wonder if thats a coincidence,
because it is VERY annoying).

Jane S. Territory
VIP DOS Shell/User
 
A

Anthony Giorgianni

Can you all please take this stuff to email or another, non-microsoft
newsgroup. This thread and others like it really should be for honoring the
memory of Alex and celebrating those who volunteer their time to help people
day after day, like he did. Remember that Alex's family and friends may see
it and want to save it as testimony to his goodness and to how much people
appreciated him. Please let's not mess it up with silly bickering which will
be locked forever in the Google archive along with everything else.

Thank you in advance for your understanding.


--
Regards,
Anthony Giorgianni

The return address for this post is fictitious. Please reply by posting back
to the newsgroup.
 
J

jane

But I see no mention of our very long term helper's death in these
newsgroups.

Get your act together MVPs.
--

1)Was NOT death he experienced, but rather the tranisition to life.
2)Why the SHOCK? were you expecting half the world to stop
due to his passing? (your 'shock-tactic' here is ONLY because
you personally have reference to the human who has ceased to
exist.......... stick around, I am sure you will be subject to
many more instances. IF you are smart, you will start putting a tad
more energy into finding out the truth than what you do in computing
and SHOCK.)
I would like to say:::: "get a life", but you already have one as your
heart is pumping blood and your lungs are expanding and contracting.
Feel pain if you must, but watch the six o'clock news also, there are
little girls getting there legs blown off from stepping on land mines,
not to mention other attrocities.

Get your act together POSTER.

Grief is a natural thing, it just means that the person who passed on
was known within the few that knew them.
("few" being used in a statistical sense regarding the amount of humans
who have lived and died since this planets inception and ability to
cater to man-kind.)

regards a Statician. (not msvip)
 
R

Rick Chauvin

[..snip..]

While it is true there is no death and it's all always a beginning and new
phase of life, and it is also true that there are thousands of people making
that transition each day, and it is true in ultimate perspective each and
every one is just as important as the other irregardless; but it is also true
from your own way of judgmentally quoting scripture that you should not be
expressing in various statements of sassy 'judgement' misperception about
another's feelings like that. In perspective what is meant from David's
heart and all the great tech's here is expressing about everyone's friend
Alex is expressing warm feelings to him and giving a kinda online loving
tribute to him is a wonderful thing to do. That's what's important and the
only truly meant focus in this thread.

Rick
 
D

Dan

You are correct, Anthony. Alex will be sorely missed by all. Thank you for
your redirection of this thread back to Alex's memory.

in message : Can you all please take this stuff to email or another, non-microsoft
: newsgroup. This thread and others like it really should be for honoring the
: memory of Alex and celebrating those who volunteer their time to help
people
: day after day, like he did. Remember that Alex's family and friends may see
: it and want to save it as testimony to his goodness and to how much people
: appreciated him. Please let's not mess it up with silly bickering which
will
: be locked forever in the Google archive along with everything else.
:
: Thank you in advance for your understanding.
:
:
: --
: Regards,
: Anthony Giorgianni
:
: The return address for this post is fictitious. Please reply by posting
back
: to the newsgroup.
:
:
 
D

Dan

Alex has made a huge difference to the world just like was shown in the movie
"It's a Wonderful Life" with Jimmy Stewart and Donna Reed. I suggest you all
see this old black and white movie that shows how each person's life is
special and precious and how we all have a unique role and destiny on this
Earth. Peace be with all of you and take care.

: :
: [..snip..]
:
: While it is true there is no death and it's all always a beginning and new
: phase of life, and it is also true that there are thousands of people
making
: that transition each day, and it is true in ultimate perspective each and
: every one is just as important as the other irregardless; but it is also
true
: from your own way of judgmentally quoting scripture that you should not be
: expressing in various statements of sassy 'judgement' misperception about
: another's feelings like that. In perspective what is meant from David's
: heart and all the great tech's here is expressing about everyone's friend
: Alex is expressing warm feelings to him and giving a kinda online loving
: tribute to him is a wonderful thing to do. That's what's important and the
: only truly meant focus in this thread.
:
: Rick
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
:
 
K

kurttrail

jane said:
1)Was NOT death he experienced, but rather the tranisition to life.

Who really knows?
2)Why the SHOCK? were you expecting half the world to stop
due to his passing? (your 'shock-tactic' here is ONLY because
you personally have reference to the human who has ceased to
exist..........

Because no matter how much we agree or disagree with each other, there
is hardly any doubt that Alex was universally admired and respected by
all of us who have spent years reading Alex's posts, and have been
influence by him and his calm patient manner.

I'm a much different person than Alex, but he earned my respect
practically from the first post I ever read of his, and even in the way
that he rebuked me, when he disagreed with what I said.
stick around, I am sure you will be subject to
many more instances.

Yep, all of us will die off eventually, but few us around here are as
universally loved and respected as Alex. He was the best among our
groups, and his kind is not likely to come around again any time soon.
IF you are smart, you will start putting a tad
more energy into finding out the truth than what you do in computing
and SHOCK.)

What truth? All we have is our own personal truths.
I would like to say:::: "get a life", but you already have one as
your
heart is pumping blood and your lungs are expanding and contracting.

Believe me, I'd like to say, STFU, but that is inappropriate to this
thread honoring Alex.
Feel pain if you must, but watch the six o'clock news also, there are
little girls getting there legs blown off from stepping on land mines,
not to mention other attrocities.

Tragic. But such is life and death. Alex touched many with his life,
and those he has, are gonna deal with his passing in their own way.
None is right or wrong.
Get your act together POSTER.

We will all move on, at our own time and speed.
Grief is a natural thing, it just means that the person who passed on
was known within the few that knew them.
("few" being used in a statistical sense regarding the amount of
humans
who have lived and died since this planets inception and ability to
cater to man-kind.)

regards a Statician. (not msvip)

Alex may just be a statistic to you, however, to those of us he touched
in one way or another, he was a friend, a mentor, a teacher, a
colleague, and much more. To me, Alex was special in all the good
aspects of what that means, and no statisical analysis of his life and
death could ever do him justice in my eyes.
 
D

Dan

Beautiful, Kurt -- Just Plain Beautiful, Man. A fitting tribute to the man
who helped me many times in this newsgroup as well even when I would just
browse it and not even post. Alex answered me from time to time and helped
me see the light. I never say Alex get angry at me and he had a way with
people that just touched them. I felt like I really knew Alex even though I
had never met him in real life and only through the Microsoft newsgroups.
Thank you Alex for Everything.

: jane wrote:
: >> But I see no mention of our very long term helper's death in these
: >> newsgroups.
: >>
: >> Get your act together MVPs.
: >
: > 1)Was NOT death he experienced, but rather the tranisition to life.
:
: Who really knows?
:
: > 2)Why the SHOCK? were you expecting half the world to stop
: > due to his passing? (your 'shock-tactic' here is ONLY because
: > you personally have reference to the human who has ceased to
: > exist..........
:
: Because no matter how much we agree or disagree with each other, there
: is hardly any doubt that Alex was universally admired and respected by
: all of us who have spent years reading Alex's posts, and have been
: influence by him and his calm patient manner.
:
: I'm a much different person than Alex, but he earned my respect
: practically from the first post I ever read of his, and even in the way
: that he rebuked me, when he disagreed with what I said.
:
: > stick around, I am sure you will be subject to
: > many more instances.
:
: Yep, all of us will die off eventually, but few us around here are as
: universally loved and respected as Alex. He was the best among our
: groups, and his kind is not likely to come around again any time soon.
:
: > IF you are smart, you will start putting a tad
: > more energy into finding out the truth than what you do in computing
: > and SHOCK.)
:
: What truth? All we have is our own personal truths.
:
: > I would like to say:::: "get a life", but you already have one as
: > your
: > heart is pumping blood and your lungs are expanding and contracting.
:
: Believe me, I'd like to say, STFU, but that is inappropriate to this
: thread honoring Alex.
:
: > Feel pain if you must, but watch the six o'clock news also, there are
: > little girls getting there legs blown off from stepping on land mines,
: > not to mention other attrocities.
:
: Tragic. But such is life and death. Alex touched many with his life,
: and those he has, are gonna deal with his passing in their own way.
: None is right or wrong.
:
: > Get your act together POSTER.
:
: We will all move on, at our own time and speed.
:
: > Grief is a natural thing, it just means that the person who passed on
: > was known within the few that knew them.
: > ("few" being used in a statistical sense regarding the amount of
: > humans
: > who have lived and died since this planets inception and ability to
: > cater to man-kind.)
: >
: > regards a Statician. (not msvip)
:
: Alex may just be a statistic to you, however, to those of us he touched
: in one way or another, he was a friend, a mentor, a teacher, a
: colleague, and much more. To me, Alex was special in all the good
: aspects of what that means, and no statisical analysis of his life and
: death could ever do him justice in my eyes.
:
: --
: Kurtis Kirsch
:
:
 
M

MowGreen [MVP]

Alex may just be a statistic to you, however, to those of us he touched
I'm going to be presumptive here ... speaking for ALL the members of
DTS, thank you for the touching tribute, Kurt.
Alex Nichol was what every MVP should strive to be. He defined being an
MVP ... a Most Valuable Person.


Steve Wechsler (akaMowGreen) MVP 2004-2005

-In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/ -
 
D

Dan

I hope and pray all MVP's can reach Alex's level but I sincerely doubt it
since he was such a great man.

: >> Alex may just be a statistic to you, however, to those of us he touched
: >> in one way or another, he was a friend, a mentor, a teacher, a
: >> colleague, and much more. To me, Alex was special in all the good
: >> aspects of what that means, and no statisical analysis of his life and
: >> death could ever do him justice in my eyes.
: >>
:
: I'm going to be presumptive here ... speaking for ALL the members of
: DTS, thank you for the touching tribute, Kurt.
: Alex Nichol was what every MVP should strive to be. He defined being an
: MVP ... a Most Valuable Person.
:
:
: Steve Wechsler (akaMowGreen) MVP 2004-2005
:
: -In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/ -
:
:
: kurttrail wrote:
:
: > jane wrote:
: >
: >>>But I see no mention of our very long term helper's death in these
: >>>newsgroups.
: >>>
: >>>Get your act together MVPs.
: >>
: >>1)Was NOT death he experienced, but rather the tranisition to life.
: >
: >
: > Who really knows?
: >
: >
: >>2)Why the SHOCK? were you expecting half the world to stop
: >> due to his passing? (your 'shock-tactic' here is ONLY because
: >>you personally have reference to the human who has ceased to
: >>exist..........
: >
: >
: > Because no matter how much we agree or disagree with each other, there
: > is hardly any doubt that Alex was universally admired and respected by
: > all of us who have spent years reading Alex's posts, and have been
: > influence by him and his calm patient manner.
: >
: > I'm a much different person than Alex, but he earned my respect
: > practically from the first post I ever read of his, and even in the way
: > that he rebuked me, when he disagreed with what I said.
: >
: >
: >>stick around, I am sure you will be subject to
: >>many more instances.
: >
: >
: > Yep, all of us will die off eventually, but few us around here are as
: > universally loved and respected as Alex. He was the best among our
: > groups, and his kind is not likely to come around again any time soon.
: >
: >
: >>IF you are smart, you will start putting a tad
: >>more energy into finding out the truth than what you do in computing
: >>and SHOCK.)
: >
: >
: > What truth? All we have is our own personal truths.
: >
: >
: >>I would like to say:::: "get a life", but you already have one as
: >>your
: >>heart is pumping blood and your lungs are expanding and contracting.
: >
: >
: > Believe me, I'd like to say, STFU, but that is inappropriate to this
: > thread honoring Alex.
: >
: >
: >>Feel pain if you must, but watch the six o'clock news also, there are
: >>little girls getting there legs blown off from stepping on land mines,
: >>not to mention other attrocities.
: >
: >
: > Tragic. But such is life and death. Alex touched many with his life,
: > and those he has, are gonna deal with his passing in their own way.
: > None is right or wrong.
: >
: >
: >>Get your act together POSTER.
: >
: >
: > We will all move on, at our own time and speed.
: >
: >
: >>Grief is a natural thing, it just means that the person who passed on
: >>was known within the few that knew them.
: >>("few" being used in a statistical sense regarding the amount of
: >>humans
: >>who have lived and died since this planets inception and ability to
: >>cater to man-kind.)
: >>
: >>regards a Statician. (not msvip)
: >
: >
: > Alex may just be a statistic to you, however, to those of us he touched
: > in one way or another, he was a friend, a mentor, a teacher, a
: > colleague, and much more. To me, Alex was special in all the good
: > aspects of what that means, and no statisical analysis of his life and
: > death could ever do him justice in my eyes.
: >
 
D

DILIP

Thanks for the heads-up, David. I can hardly believe I'm reading this.
Alex - A man who epitomized perfection and natural benevolence, perhaps like
the loss of a Koh-i-noor something insurmountable, completely irreplaceable.
Men of character and skill are few and far between as we all know, and it is
unbelievable for me to even imagine this group without him.

I remember thinking about Alex the other day while anticipating Longhorn. I
smiled to myself just thinking of how much I would learn from his
forthcoming posts.

--
Replace the obvious with "hotmail"

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
I only read XP groups these days. Apologies to non XP groups if this has
been handled.

Those that know me know I am overwhelmed with grief for the last while (I
failed to save a life two saturdays ago). This is someone else's
responsibility.

But I see no mention of our very long term helper's death in these
newsgroups.

Get your act together MVPs.
 
J

jane

David Candy,,,,
I am sorry in one way to intervene, but on my other hand I am
wondering about your sensuliation of the whole thing.

A man has passed from breathing air to not breathing it anymore.
many of our sisters and brothes over the last 6,000yrs have already
experienced this process.
Am I to believe, David, that you are Hoooraaaaa--ing and Spouting just
because you happened to either 'know' or be 'personally aware'
of the existence of this particular human?
Does this mean that any one of the hobos you pass on the street
have no compare to this particular human?
Should you not be investigating rather the fine line between 'life &
death' before you go about beating drums when a mere one departs
this planet........... as YOU know it David?

What value do you place upon one mere mortals existence?
Is one valued above another?
And if so in your eyes, who or what is it that makes one greater than
another?
Is it YOU david that determines who should get the better grave?
Is it YOU who determines who should have the greater recognition?
Nay my little mis-guided friend, tis you who have a much larger
learning path than the aquaintance who beat you in the race to know
the truth of the fine line twixt death and life......... but first my
young apprentice, you have to decide which is better and which is
active,....... is it from death you pass to life, or from life you pass
to death.?

Dont come back waving flags for those you know who have taken
the road you know nothing of, much better you go and determine
and evaluate your excitement and fervour at your announcement
here, in this forum.
First find out where your 'hero' has gone, before you throw all into
a state of dis-array.
First find out what you DO KNOW, before you look foolish in
spouting what YOU DO NOT KNOW.

am i makin' myself clear gov'?
j
 
D

David Candy

I don't know about your babble.

I do know that it is due to me that anyone can die at home with the local hospital picking up the tab for oxygen rather than for ONLY cancer patients.

I also know that Alex belonged here, as well as other places.
 
D

David Candy

I also know that one is insignificant is an important thought. Especially if one faces one's own impending death.

--
----------------------------------------------------------

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message I don't know about your babble.

I do know that it is due to me that anyone can die at home with the local hospital picking up the tab for oxygen rather than for ONLY cancer patients.

I also know that Alex belonged here, as well as other places.
 
D

David Candy

But understand. The dieee is not the point. The survivors and group cohesion are the point. The desd person is desd and doesn't care. It is the live people that care. As it always has been and always will be.

--
----------------------------------------------------------

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message I also know that one is insignificant is an important thought. Especially if one faces one's own impending death.

--
----------------------------------------------------------

"David Candy" <.> wrote in message I don't know about your babble.

I do know that it is due to me that anyone can die at home with the local hospital picking up the tab for oxygen rather than for ONLY cancer patients.

I also know that Alex belonged here, as well as other places.
 

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