WINXP - Updates Really Coming to an End


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Tecknomage

http://www.zdnet.com/when-will-micr...your-version-of-windows-or-office-7000013560/


Excerpt:


Summary: The countdown for Windows XP is about to get serious. In
one year, Microsoft officially stops supporting XP. What happens when
the clock runs out? And how long until your current version of
Windows or Office suffers the same fate?

For the next year or so, Microsoft will officially offer support for
four versions of Windows for desktop and notebook PCs.

Windows XP, the oldest of the bunch, celebrates its 12th birthday this
fall. It kicks off a year-long farewell tour next week, counting down
to April 8, 2014, when Microsoft officially ends its support. XP
lived longer than any version of Windows ever, getting multiple
extensions on its retirement date to placate customers who said no to
Vista. But April 2014 is the end of the road.

XP will not get a last-minute reprieve.

Let me say that again, in boldface this time: Microsoft will not
extend the support deadline for XP. If you're still relying on XP,
you should have a plan to switch to a supported platform, whether it's
from Microsoft or someone else.

April 8, 2014 is a deadline, not a death sentence. PCs running XP
will not stop working when the clock runs out. In fact, XP diehards
won’t notice anything different except an eerie quiet on Patch
Tuesday. Newer Windows versions, including Windows Vista, Windows 7,
and Windows 8, will continue to get security patches and bug fixes via
Windows Update, but not XP. When the extended support period ends, so
do those updates. (Large enterprise customers who have custom support
agreements with Microsoft and who are willing to pay dearly for the
privilege might be able to get custom updates after the official end
of support. But consumers and small businesses will not have that
option.)

None of this should be a surprise. As I’ve noted before, Microsoft
has a well-established support life-cycle for its software products.
It’s basically an agreement that the company makes with everyone who
commits to Windows. The terms of that agreement don’t change often,
which is an important assurance for business customers who tend to be
conservative in their approach to upgrades.

Six months after the launch of Windows 8, it’s become obvious that
Windows 7 is the new Long Term Support version. And I'm starting to
get more questions from readers who are concerned that Microsoft is
going to try to kill off Windows 7.




MY OPINION:

Microdunce can shove their to-hell-with-consumer policies up
you-know-where.

I am NOT about to downgrade my PERFECTLY WORKING WinXP Desktop to a
more hoggish, all eye-candy, version that will require me to manually
reinstall over 100 apps.



--
=========== Tecknomage ===========
Computer Systems Specialist
IT Technician
(retired)
San Diego, CA
 
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Twayne

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Tecknomage said:
http://www.zdnet.com/when-will-micr...your-version-of-windows-or-office-7000013560/


Excerpt:


Summary: The countdown for Windows XP is about to get
serious. In one year, Microsoft officially stops
supporting XP. What happens when the clock runs out?
And how long until your current version of Windows or
Office suffers the same fate?

....


April 8, 2014 is a deadline, not a death sentence. PCs
running XP will not stop working when the clock runs out.
In fact, XP diehards wont notice anything different
except an eerie quiet on Patch Tuesday.

And even tht won't go completely dark; hell, I got critical updates for Win
98 for years after its demise.

Newer Windows
versions, including Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows
8, will continue to get security patches and bug fixes
via Windows Update, but not XP.

Except for crtcal updates that affect all versions of windows, and for
specific operating systems.

The smart thing to do if you don't trust MS is to download ALL of the
updates since the last Service Pack you installed.

When the extended
support period ends, so do those updates.

Not entirely true. See above comments.

....
None of this should be a surprise. As Ive noted before,
Microsoft has a well-established support life-cycle for
its software products. Its basically an agreement that
the company makes with everyone who commits to Windows.

Actually, to those it holds contracts for, not you and I.
The terms of that agreement dont change often, which is
an important assurance for business customers who tend to
be conservative in their approach to upgrades.

Six months after the launch of Windows 8, its become
obvious that Windows 7 is the new Long Term Support
version. And I'm starting to get more questions from
readers who are concerned that Microsoft is going to try
to kill off Windows 7.

There IS one thing MS could do that would result in a bunch of law suits and
class actions:
As they did in China to stop piracy, they can send an update that will
trash the OS on all those computers! But, desparete for money, they turned
around and offered it back to them for $45US. Good deal for them!

Anyway, if you're the cautious type, like I said, download all the updates
NOW and don't wait for them to disappear. Since SP3 there have been quite a
few of them.
MY OPINION:

Microdunce can shove their to-hell-with-consumer policies
up you-know-where.

I am NOT about to downgrade my PERFECTLY WORKING WinXP
Desktop to a more hoggish, all eye-candy, version that
will require me to manually reinstall over 100 apps.


HTH,

Twayne`
 
J

JJ

Summary: The countdown for Windows XP is about to get serious. In
one year, Microsoft officially stops supporting XP. What happens when
the clock runs out?

It would be like an old computer whose manufacturer no longer provides
driver and BIOS updates. It would still run existig OS and its programs
properly. In fact, in most cases, with existing updates, the computer would
already be very stable when the support ended.
Six months after the launch of Windows 8, it’s become obvious that
Windows 7 is the new Long Term Support version. And I'm starting to
get more questions from readers who are concerned that Microsoft is
going to try to kill off Windows 7.

I'm actually concerned about Microsoft if that happens.
I am NOT about to downgrade my PERFECTLY WORKING WinXP Desktop to a
more hoggish, all eye-candy, version that will require me to manually
reinstall over 100 apps.

Don't forget those Windows settings and tweaks that you have set and applied
for the past 10 years or so.
 
T

Twayne

In
Tecknomage said:
http://www.zdnet.com/when-will-micr...your-version-of-windows-or-office-7000013560/


Excerpt:


Summary: The countdown for Windows XP is about to get
serious. In one year, Microsoft officially stops
supporting XP. What happens when the clock runs out?
And how long until your current version of Windows or
Office suffers the same fate?

For the next year or so, Microsoft will officially offer
support for four versions of Windows for desktop and
notebook PCs.

....



MY OPINION:

Microdunce can shove their to-hell-with-consumer policies
up you-know-where.

I am NOT about to downgrade my PERFECTLY WORKING WinXP
Desktop to a more hoggish, all eye-candy, version that
will require me to manually reinstall over 100 apps.

No offense meant, but for a supposed IT Technician and Computer Systems
Specialist
you seem to be a little behind reality in what supposedly happens at the end
of an MS OS cycle. You need to get a grasp on things and be a little more
realistic in your outlook and expectations. I doubt more than a handful of
people have needed Support for XP Pro SP3 any longer anyway.

I do understand you feel the need to vent. It's just that you've horribly
mixed up opinion with fact.

HTH,

Twayne`
 
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Ammammata

Il giorno Tue 09 Apr 2013 04:39:08p, *Tecknomage* inviava su
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general il messaggio
Vediamo cosa scrisse:
Summary: The countdown for Windows XP is about to get serious. In
one year, Microsoft officially stops supporting XP. What happens when
the clock runs out? And how long until your current version of
Windows or Office suffers the same fate?

For the next year or so, Microsoft will officially offer support for
four versions of Windows for desktop and notebook PCs.

since XP is valid only on old and older computers, the newest haven't
proper drivers for the hardware, I think that it will die slowly as it was
for the never-forgot windows 2000 and the world will get used with the new
ones

who can't afford the expense to get a brand new computer should learn to
use XP avoiding risks (=using brain) or, crossing the line, use another
o.s.
 
P

philo 

http://www.zdnet.com/when-will-micr...your-version-of-windows-or-office-7000013560/


Excerpt:


Summary: The countdown for Windows XP is about to get serious. In
one year, Microsoft officially stops supporting XP. What happens when
the clock runs out? And how long until your current version of
Windows or Office suffers the same fate?

For the next year or so, Microsoft will officially offer support for
four versions of Windows for desktop and notebook PCs.

Windows XP, the oldest of the bunch, celebrates its 12th birthday this
fall. It kicks off a year-long farewell tour next week, counting down
to April 8, 2014, when Microsoft officially ends its support. XP
lived longer than any version of Windows ever, getting multiple
extensions on its retirement date to placate customers who said no to
Vista. But April 2014 is the end of the road.

XP will not get a last-minute reprieve.


<snip>


This is not going to have much impact.

Assuming one is using Firefox or Chrome , the updates will continue for
those browsers. Additionally for the virus checker and malware checker
as well.
XP should be viable for many more years
 
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Tecknomage

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No offense meant, but for a supposed IT Technician and Computer Systems
Specialist
you seem to be a little behind reality in what supposedly happens at the end
of an MS OS cycle. You need to get a grasp on things and be a little more
realistic in your outlook and expectations. I doubt more than a handful of
people have needed Support for XP Pro SP3 any longer anyway.

I do understand you feel the need to vent. It's just that you've horribly
mixed up opinion with fact.

HTH,

Twayne`,

You are correct, my post is venting, and I needed it.

As far as me being 'a little behind reality in what supposedly happens
at the end of an MS OS cycle' that is not the issue. I do know what
happens.

My venting is the corporate attitude that is OK to abandon loyal users
of your product. It's like if Ford stopped providing service for
older Ford cars.

It's about being loyal TO customers who have been loyal to you, and
about growing a reputation of 'loyalty to customers.'






--
=========== Tecknomage ===========
Computer Systems Specialist
IT Technician
(retired)
San Diego, CA
 
P

(PeteCresswell)

Per Tecknomage:
It's about being loyal TO customers who have been loyal to you, and
about growing a reputation of 'loyalty to customers.'

When the company I used to work for (Philadelphia Electric) was given a
new CEO - who promptly started making life difficult for the long-term
employees - somebody called him on it in a meeting.

His response: "If I want loyalty, I'll get a puppy."
 
J

J. P. Gilliver (John)

In message <[email protected]>, Tecknomage
You are correct, my post is venting, and I needed it.

As far as me being 'a little behind reality in what supposedly happens
at the end of an MS OS cycle' that is not the issue. I do know what
happens.

My venting is the corporate attitude that is OK to abandon loyal users
of your product. It's like if Ford stopped providing service for
older Ford cars.

It's about being loyal TO customers who have been loyal to you, and
about growing a reputation of 'loyalty to customers.'
[]
What exactly does this loyalty - of the customers who stuck with XP -
mean in practice?

It could be argued that they're not "loyal customers": they're people
who bought an MS OS once, and expect it to work forever. "Loyal
customers" would be ones who keep buying perhaps?

(I'm playing devil's advocate: I'm an XP SP3 user, who just takes this
'group for curiosity. But I can see all sides of this one.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)[email protected]+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists
to
adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable
man. -George Bernard Shaw, writer, Nobel laureate (1856-1950)
 
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Greegor

For over 20 years, there was a mad rush for
faster and faster computer hardware.
Your new computer would be garbage within
3 years and the replacement would process
6 or 10 times faster than the one it replaced.
Microsoft got to sell a new iteration of
Windows at many of those stages.

Cheap desktop computer hardware actually
became faster than what most people
actually needed.

Limitations of physics began to make it
increasingly expensive to obtain even a
measly 2X speed increase, which doesn't
seem like such a good deal after we got
used to 6x and 10x processor speed
increases at each system upgrade.

Now people are sitting on their old
computers longer and hardware turnover
is slowing down too, so MS has partly
lost their traditional mechanism of cycling
their latest product out to dominate the market.

The latest Windows really does not
provide any appreciable increase
in productivity for most users.

Now it sounds like MS is heading in
the direction of marketing Windows
as a subscription service where people
pay a yearly fee to use it.

Microsoft needs a major social networking
innovation or major productivity software
innovation to pull off the conversion.
 
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Andy

Il giorno Tue 09 Apr 2013 04:39:08p, *Tecknomage* inviava su

microsoft.public.windowsxp.general il messaggio

Vediamo cosa scrisse:


Summary: The countdown for Windows XP is about to get serious. In
one year, Microsoft officially stops supporting XP. What happens when
the clock runs out? And how long until your current version of
Windows or Office suffers the same fate?

For the next year or so, Microsoft will officially offer support for
four versions of Windows for desktop and notebook PCs.



since XP is valid only on old and older computers, the newest haven't


who can't afford the expense to get a brand new computer should learn to

use XP avoiding risks (=using brain) or, crossing the line, use another

........... [ al lavoro ] ...........

Not everyone is rolling in money like yourself. :)
And most people have and use their brain.

Andy
 
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Ammammata

Il giorno Thu 11 Apr 2013 03:03:02p, *Andy* inviava su
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general il messaggio (e-mail address removed). Vediamo cosa scrisse:
Not everyone is rolling in money like yourself. :)

I'm using lxle on a 10-years-old machine, and it makes (almost) everything
I need :p
And most people have and use their brain.

I quote Einstein:
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not
sure about the the universe."
 

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