How to install Win98 on a W2K system to dual boot?

G

gamik

Hello,

I have a Win2000-SP4 Professional Edition system with the following
FAT32 partitions:

C: 30 GB
D: 30 GB
E: 20 GB

Win2000 is installed on C drive. D and E are currently empty.

I now want to install Win98 in a dual boot configuration because I have
an application that runs only under Win98.

Is there any way (using third-party tools perhaps) that will allow me
to install Win98 on this system without uninstalling Win2000 first. (I
am aware that it is fairly easy to install a 98/2000 dual boot system
if 98 is installed first.)

I also have another, separate, 30 GB drive lying around that I can use,
if necessary.

All guidance appreciated.

G. Amik
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

Hello,

I have a Win2000-SP4 Professional Edition system with the following
FAT32 partitions:

C: 30 GB
D: 30 GB
E: 20 GB

Win2000 is installed on C drive. D and E are currently empty.

I now want to install Win98 in a dual boot configuration because I have
an application that runs only under Win98.

Is there any way (using third-party tools perhaps) that will allow me
to install Win98 on this system without uninstalling Win2000 first. (I
am aware that it is fairly easy to install a 98/2000 dual boot system
if 98 is installed first.)

I also have another, separate, 30 GB drive lying around that I can use,
if necessary.

All guidance appreciated.

G. Amik

This is fairly easy:
1. Boot the machine with your Win98 CD and install Win98
on a drive other than C:.
2. Do a clean boot to a DOS Prompt, by pressing F8 early
in the boot phase.
3. Type these commands:
bootpart winnt boot:C:
(this will restore your Win2000 boot sector)
bootpart c:\win98.sys "Windows 98"
(this will create a Win98 boot sector file. It will also add a
Win98 menu line to c:\boot.ini.)

You can get bootpart.exe from here:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/gvollant/bootpart.htm
http://www.winimage.com/bootpart.htm
 
F

Frank346

Hello,

I have a Win2000-SP4 Professional Edition system with the following
FAT32 partitions:

C: 30 GB
D: 30 GB
E: 20 GB

Win2000 is installed on C drive. D and E are currently empty.

I now want to install Win98 in a dual boot configuration because I have
an application that runs only under Win98.

Is there any way (using third-party tools perhaps) that will allow me
to install Win98 on this system without uninstalling Win2000 first. (I
am aware that it is fairly easy to install a 98/2000 dual boot system
if 98 is installed first.)

I also have another, separate, 30 GB drive lying around that I can use,
if necessary.

All guidance appreciated.

G. Amik
Since you are using FAT32 the information at
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=153762 will be helpful.
 
G

gamik

Thanks for your prompt response.
Pegasus (MVP) wrote:
1. Boot the machine with your Win98 CD and install Win98
on a drive other than C:.

Please confirm that this just means installing the Windows (98) folder
on drive D.
bootpart winnt boot:C:
(this will restore your Win2000 boot sector)
bootpart c:\win98.sys "Windows 98"
(this will create a Win98 boot sector file. It will also add a
Win98 menu line to c:\boot.ini.)

I've been looking at the bootpart documentation and I don't understand
this last bootpart command. Where does bootpart get the Windows 98 boot
information to create the win98.sys file?

Thanks,

G. Amik
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

See below.

Thanks for your prompt response.



Please confirm that this just means installing the Windows (98) folder
on drive D.

Yep, that's what it means!

I've been looking at the bootpart documentation and I don't understand
this last bootpart command. Where does bootpart get the Windows 98 boot
information to create the win98.sys file?

It presumably gets its information from the current location
of io.sys and msdos.sys. Who cares - it works!
 
C

computerguy

On a related topic, is there any difference between booting up in DOS on a
dual boot (Win2k + DOS) system versus pressing F8 and selecting DOS from the
ensuing menu? Is the former true DOS and the latter an emulation?

TIA,
-GHB
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

Pressing F8 does not give you DOS - it gives you Safe Mode
with a Command Prompt. DOS is an operating system whereas
the Command Prompt is a process that runs under Windows.
It looks similar to DOS but there are important differences.
For example, DOS can talk directly to the hardware whereas
the Command Prompt can't. Try the commands sys.com or
fdisk.com to see what I mean.
 
R

Roy L. Fuchs

Pressing F8 does not give you DOS - it gives you Safe Mode
with a Command Prompt.

Bull. In Windows 98 one can most assuredly boot into a full MS DOS
7 command prompt that gives full hardware access. Actually, the boot
menu is where one selects it, not F8.
DOS is an operating system whereas
the Command Prompt is a process that runs under Windows.

Hahahah... That depends on how long you have been around.
It looks similar to DOS but there are important differences.
For example, DOS can talk directly to the hardware whereas
the Command Prompt can't. Try the commands sys.com or
fdisk.com to see what I mean.

The trick to installing the two together is that Win98 must go in
first, and THEN win2k gets put on the drive.

Then goes ny boot loader favorite, XOSL, and then I can boot up
Linux, Windows or any other OS I want, including DOS.

The important thing to remember is that the first drive has to be
FAT32, not NTFS or the DOS part gets killed. The other requisite is
that the volume be less than 4 GB.
 
C

computerguy

I have a followup question. How do I get my printer (Lexmark 3200) to work
in DOS mode? It was installed and works in Win2k mode but doesn't in DOS
mode.

TIA
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

What exactly do you mean with "DOS Mode"? Command Prompt?
Booting the machine with a DOS disk?
 
D

Dan Seur

I think your best bet is Lexmark Tech Support.
They do mention a DOS driver download:
N2601E.zip;
version 6.22.26;
released 21-JUN-04;
filesize 1973KB;
drives these products:
Lexmark 3100 MFP Option,
Lexmark 3200 MFP Option, <-----is this yours??
Lexmark X630,
Lexmark X632,
MarkNet N2601e
I mean booting up in DOS by selecting MSDOS at the (Win2k/MSDOS) dual boot
menu.






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R

Roy L. Fuchs

I have a followup question. How do I get my printer (Lexmark 3200) to work
in DOS mode? It was installed and works in Win2k mode but doesn't in DOS
mode.

If it is a new printer, it likely has no DOS mode. If it is "epson"
compatible, you may be able to send it print jobs set up for an epson.

My HP still takes print jobs from DOS, but that is only because the
app I am sending them from has an inkjet driver in it.
 
C

computerguy

I have some followup questions (the rest of the thread seems to have
disappeared from my newsserver). I currently have Win2k + MSDOS in my dual
boot system which came about after I "upgraded" from Win98SE to Win2k.

1) Can I add one more boot system, i.e. can I have Win2k + Win98Se + DOS?
2) Assuming the answer is "yes", do I have to actually install it or is it
already there since I upgraded from that to Win2K and so I only need to
"enable" it.
3) I only have 1 HD, a 30GB C: drive. Can the Win98SE be installed on that
drive.
4) The thread referred to a Microsoft article (153762) which mentioned dual
boot Win2k + MSDOS. Is there an article about Win2k + Win98 SE?

TIA,
-GHB
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

You can install any number of OSs if you use a proper third-party
boot manager, e.g. XOSL. It's free.
 
G

gamik

Hello Pegasus,

I am the OP and I finally got around to following your instructions but
have run into problems.

I installed Windows98 on D:. That worked out fine. Then I booted to Dos
Prompt (F8) and ran Bootpart as you suggested.

The first command ran fine:

bootpart winnt boot:C:


The second:

bootpart c:\win98.sys "Windows 98"

gave an "Error in Parameter".

So, I tried to be clever and ran the command without the space in
between the final two parameters:

bootpart c:\Win98.sys"Windows 98"

That seemed to take.

Now when I boot, I get a dual-boot menu. Win2K boots fine but when I
select Win98, the system freezes with this error:

I/O Error accessing boot sector file
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\BOOTSECT.DOS

Can you suggest some remedial meaure? I've tried rerunning bootpart
commands after booting to C: prompt from a Win98 boot disk but the same
thing happens.

Note that both C: are FAT32 partitions (30 and 20 GB respectively).

For what its worth, here are the before and after versions of BOOT.INI:

Before ------------------------
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect
------------------------------

After -----------------------
[Boot Loader]
timeout=30
Default=C:\

[Operating Systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINNT="Microsoft Windows 2000
Professional" /fastdetect
C:\="Microsoft Windows 98"
--------------------------------

Obviously, the second bootpart command needs to be rerun. I can restore
the old BOOT.INI, and run the two commands again after using a Win98
boot disk to boot.

Can you please supply the correct syntax for the second command.

Thanks for your help.

G. Amik
 
G

gamik

I have now discovered the error in the second bootpart command. (The
win95 parameter was missing.)

This is the corrected sequence:

1. Boot the machine with your Win98 CD and install Win98
on a drive other than C:.

2. Do a clean boot to a DOS Prompt, by pressing F8 early
in the boot phase.

3. Type these commands:

bootpart winnt boot:C:
(this will restore your Win2000 boot sector)

bootpart win95 c:\win98.sys "Windows 98"
(this will create a Win98 boot sector file. It will also add a
Win98 menu line to c:\boot.ini.)

You can get bootpart.exe from here:
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/gvollant/bootpart.htm
http://www.winimage.com/bootpart.htm

I've used the above and it worked perfectly.

-G Amik
 

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