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Nehmo Sergheyev
Rod Speed said:What does the event log say about what the problem is ?
Nehmo - Where is the event log? I get about 5 minuts between shutdowns.
I'm using old drive too.
Rod Speed said:What does the event log say about what the problem is ?
Nehmo - Where is the event log? I get about 5 minuts between shutdowns.
I'm using old drive too.
I recently cloned an IBM drive under 2K using the IBM utility Disk
Manager 2000. It was relatively effortless. Not quick, but effortless.
I have a question related to your statement.
I am going to clone to an external USB HD.
I have Drive Image 2002 (same as Drive Image 6)
and I can't do a copy to the USB drive.
The info on Drive Image 7 says that USB is supported.
Yes.
It is unclear if all of that can be done in Windows or DOS.
The new Ghost also states that USB is supported.
I will buy one or the other. Any thoughts?
- Nehmo -Control Panel/Performance and Maintenance/
Admin Tools/Event Viewer/System - Nehmo - - Rod Speed -
Yeah, thats what I meant to say last time and managed to forget,
that its unlikely to be anything to do with the drive copying. Its
likely the system has become very unstable for other reasons.
Try memtest86 on it to check for memory errors.
things are working now. It hasn't shut down again yet.restarted > went back into BIOS and changed it back to Yes. I think
- Nehmo -
Where is the event log? I get about 5 minuts between shutdowns.
- Rod Speed -
- Nehmo -
I found event viewer by looking at Help. I didn't see anything
that looked like a problem, but I don't know what to look for.
I called a friend of mine, Bret, who used to work at Cisco (and now is
trying to run a FIGHT studio. He had his first two customers yesterday.)
. When I explained, Bret said, "I'm 99% sure, and I don't usually say
that, that it has something to do with the power settings." On his
direction, I went into Windows setup (or I think BIOS means the same
thing) > Power Menu > ACPI > and although it was Yes, I changed it to No
things are working now. It hasn't shut down again yet.
OK.
Now I have to get back to the drive problem.
I've unplugged and replugged the ATA ribbon so many times (I used long
nose pliers) that the pieces of plastic _over_ the end connectors have
come off. I think the cable is still electrically okay though.
Bret said I should just use Ghost.
He wasn't familiar with XXCLONE.
Didn't work.
I assumed the copy from old HD to new HD I had previously
done with MaxBlast was the same as the copy it would do if I
ran the program again, so I just proceeded with the remaining steps.
I moved the jumpers to make the new drive master
I removed the jumper to make the old drive slave
I switched positions of the drives on the ATA cable to
Black {end} connector to New HD
Grey {middle} connector to Old HD
I first started without the old drive connected.
Windows XP began to start but stopped short and produced the
Windows Product Activation box saying there was a problem with
WPA, error code 0x80090006 .
Just to make sure the disconnection of the old drive had nothing
to do with it, I tried again this time with both drives connected as
described above. The same error developed.
So I returned things back the way they were: jumpers old=master,
new=slave ; ATA cable, black end to old , grey middle to new.
Now things work as before: the OS is still on the old HD.
My understanding of Win XP WPA is from
http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm .
When I installed XP (up form ME) on this machine, I had
already added a NIC and some RAM. Now I'm trying to add
a HD. So the only change in hardware categories is the HD.
That shouldn't be enough to trigger WPA error.
I'll have to call Maxtor and maybe Microsoft tomorrow. It
frustrates me that these companies with global scope should
have such narrow tech support hours. The weekends and
after-normal-business-hours should not be dead time.
It's sure taking a long time just to get a new drive in.
J.Clarke said:FWIW, I had occasion to upgrade my XP box today--
downloaded the latest Drive Image, installed it, hooked
up the new drive, told it to copy, was surprised that it
copied the whole boot drive right over and that after I
pulled the old drive the new one came right up. Haven't
tried _imaging_ the boot drive, but copying worked fine.
- tomcas -
http://maxtor.com/en/documentation/installation_guides/ata_installation_guide.pdf
- Nehmo -
- Nehmo -
Didn't work.
I assumed the copy from old HD to new HD I had previously done with
MaxBlast was the same as the copy it would do if I ran the program
again, so I just proceeded with the remaining steps.
I moved the jumpers to make the new drive master
I removed the jumper to make the old drive slave
I switched positions of the drives on the ATA cable to
Black {end} connector to New HD
Grey {middle} connector to Old HD
I first started without the old drive connected.
Windows XP began to start but stopped short and produced the Windows
Product Activation box saying there was a problem with WPA, error code
0x80090006 .
Just to make sure the disconnection of the old drive had nothing to do
with it, I tried again this time with both drives connected as
described above. The same error developed.
So I returned things back the way they were: jumpers old=master,
new=slave ; ATA cable, black end to old , grey middle to new. Now
things work as before: the OS is still on the old HD.
My understanding of Win XP WPA is from http://aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm
. When I installed XP (up form ME) on this machine, I had already
added a NIC and some RAM. Now I'm trying to add a HD. So the only
change in hardware categories is the HD. That shouldn't be enough to
trigger WPA error.
I'll have to call Maxtor and maybe Microsoft tomorrow. It frustrates
me that these companies with global scope should have such narrow tech
support hours. The weekends and after-normal-business-hours should not
be dead time.
Was that Drive Image 7 or 7.01? (Version 7.01 is the
downloadable "fix" for a buggy version 7. It can also be
ordered on CD for $5 if you already bought ver 7.)
Rod Speed said:Not as far as bashing you over the head with the fact that
the original drive needs to be physically unplugged for the
first boot after the clone of the original boot drive it isnt.
Ronthe USB drive dont you ? Thats one area where there is lots
of confusion with imaging programs that will also clone. They
are quite different operations and both ghost and DI can do both.
You wouldnt normally want to CLONE to a USB HD because
you wouldnt normally want to boot from that cloned drive.
I'm not sure what you are talking about.
IBM Disk Manager requires that yousimply
change the master/slave jumper settings.
Compared to labor of installing an extra
drive it doesn't seem to be a big deal.
I actually want to clone the HD to the external USB drive in order
to create a backup HD that I could plug into the laptop and go.
This is motivated by my thought that HDs are vulnerable on laptops.
I travel with mine in a motor home and need it for GPS navigation.
I have ordered Ghost 2003 and will have it in about five days,
so maybe I will be back on the NG
with questions when I try to use it.
J.Clarke said:Did you go to Microsoft's site and plug that number into the
knowledgebase? If not, try it.
When product activation triggers it does _not_ give the message you
report.
Basically entrys with a red X in front of them in the System log.
Best to replace it.
- Rod Speed -
Yeah, its only been released for a few weeks now.
You appeared to be saying that you had used xxclone successfully.
Isnt it working properly now that the acpi problem is fixed ?
Nehmo Sergheyev said:- Nehmo -
- Rod Speed -
- Nehmo -
I temporarily put aside the drive replacement/addition
job until I can get the system running normally. I have
to limit changes, so I can figure out what's to blame.
I'll run my usual check-out stuff, and I'll try memtest86.
http://www.memtest86.com/ ; It can't hurt.
When I do something that ends up disabling
the computer, it takes an emotional toll on me.
I don't have a back up - no extra computer,
and the HD isn't backed up either.
During this last episode, a few times I had to
start the computer, quickly start Outlook, and
get an phone # before the computer shut down.
(To add to the computer problem, and these things are
unrelated to computers, I had to go to court, which usually
goes bad for me, and my house's water pipes froze. I'm
renting, but the landlord doesn't help with maintenance.
Fortunately, once unfrozen, the pipes didn't leak,
and I got a continuance from the judge.)
I believe this shut down (ACPI) problem
must be related to trying to change the drive.
I don't know how it happened, though.
- Nehmo -
- Rod Speed -
- Nehmo -
I'm getting to Event Viewer by.
Start > All Programs > Administrative Tools > Event Viewer
There is one recurring red-X item:
The Concord EyeQ Duo 2000 USB Video Capture V1.00
service failed to start due to the following error:
The system cannot find the file specified.
This attempted start is a remnant form some camera
software I installed and uninstalled. There must be a
registry entry somewhere that causes the system to try
and start it. But this can't be the cause of any recent
problems because I uninstalled Concord several weeks ago.
I'm also getting a lot of True Victor failed starts. True Victor
is a part of Zone Alarm, and ZA warns you when TV fails to
start. Then you have the option to start it again. It usually
starts properly and works when started at that point.
- Nehmo -
I haven't restarted a bunch of times since I solved the ACPI
peculiarity - Actually, I now realize that's not completely solved.
After I reset the ACPI power option in the BIOS to Yes (even though
it appeared to be Yes when I first looked at it), I set the power
settings in Desktop Properties to not turn anything off (for the benefit
of those unfamiliar with the process, I'm presenting this in detail).
On Desktop rightclick > properties > Desktop Properties window >
Screen Saver tab > Screen Saver set at None > press Power button
Desk > All dropdown setting for Home/Office Desk = Never, that is
never turn off anything and never go to standby
Immediately after the ACPI fix (?), the system seemed to operate
normally. The computer and monitor stayed on all night. However,
now I see it going off after a while of idle time. And I mean "off"
as before, the light on the front of the box goes out, monitor
stops getting a signal, but the processor fan keeps running.
I can't turn everything off and
on again by the front button;
I have to unplug and re-plug.
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Now you've got me worried. This drive stuff is so touchy, I think
I shouldn't use anything suspicious. I'll have to go out and buy a
ribbon somewhere. There's no place open around here. I live right
in downtown Kansas City, Kansas, but the downtown is blighted.
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According to what XXCLONE tells the user, one disk is successfully
copied to the other. After the XXCLONE completes process, it brags
that the new drive is ready and can boot all on its own. I changed
to jumpers to make the new drive master and the old slave, and
I changed the positions of the drives on the cable: new drive=end,
old drive=middle. I left the old drive unplugged for the first boot up.
It took three attempts to boot up. The BIOS provided different
screens, I don't remember exactly, but the last one had three
options for locations of the OS, I think it was disk 0, p
(apparently for partition) 1. Then Windows started.
I couldn't get into System Restore. When I tried, a warning
popped up saying the app had encountered a problem and
needs to close - this was before it even opened. Additionally,
the shortcut icons for Word documents were changed to one
of the non-descript icons. I think it was the same as the one
Explorer uses for dat files. Clicking on these icons did cause
Word to start, but first it gave a warning that I should run
setup (I guess it means Office setup) and Repair. Then
Word would start, apparently normally.
Although these problems seem fixable, Bret advised
me to abandon that HD copy and try again with Ghost.
I just installed Symantec Ghost Enterprise Edition.
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