how make W2000 Startup Floopy Disk?

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Tark Siala

hi
1 - how i can make startup disk Win2000 (or startup Win2000 CD-Rom) ?
2 - and how i can run Command Prompt From Startup CD-Rom of Win 2000 ?
3 - how i can change Active HDD Partition From Startup CD-ROM ?

thanx
 
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Herb Martin

This sounds vaguely like a "homework" assignment but....
1 - how i can make startup disk Win2000 (or startup Win2000 CD-Rom) ?

Format a floppy under Win2000 (not 9x) and copy
these files from the root of your hard drive (C:\)
ntldr, ntdetect.com, boot.ini
and if it's there: ntbootdd.sys

CD-ROM? What do you want it to do? The Win2000 CDROMs
are already bootable for installation and...see #3
2 - and how i can run Command Prompt From Startup CD-Rom of Win 2000 ?

During installation once the GUI starts, you can press F10
to get a command prompt or see #3
3 - how i can change Active HDD Partition From Startup CD-ROM ?

Boot the CD-ROM, at the first prompt choose "R" (repair), then
follow the prompts to the "Recovery Console" (logon as the MACHINE
admin) and you are at a Command Prompt (of sorts); it's not DOS or
Win2000 CMD but it has a bunch of cmd prompt utilies and the same
look and feel.

AND among the choice there are several commands for managing
hard drive partitions (partition, format, fix boot sectors etc), so type:

Help
 
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Tark Siala

hi Herb Martin

it's not "homework" :)
but i'm change active partition from C to D
then i can't boot from D , Because it's not System Disk
that's why i need boot from another disk and change active Disk from D
to C ...
that's all
 
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Ace Fekay [MVP]

In
posted their thoughts said:
hi Herb Martin

it's not "homework" :)
but i'm change active partition from C to D
then i can't boot from D , Because it's not System Disk
that's why i need boot from another disk and change active Disk
from D to C ...
that's all

Follow Herb's suggestions to making the boot floppy. Then in the boot.ini
file (on the floppy), change the ARC path to reflect the actual boot
partition (where NTOSKRNL.EXE exists). Then you can adjust the actual one on
the system drive.

Here's some links to help explain the ARC path in the boot.ini file and it's
usage. The troublshooting one at the end is especially descriptive on how it
works:

102873 - BOOT.INI and ARC Path Naming Conventions and Usage:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;102873

102877 - ARC Path to Windows NT System Files Changes:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;102877

155222 - How to Determine the ARC Path:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;155222

NT4 and Win2000 Troubleshooting - many concepts, including the ARC Path:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tr...hnet/prodtechnol/winntas/support/troubles.asp


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Ace

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Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
 
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Ace Fekay [MVP]

In
posted their thoughts said:
hi Herb Martin

it's not "homework" :)
but i'm change active partition from C to D
then i can't boot from D , Because it's not System Disk
that's why i need boot from another disk and change active Disk
from D to C ...
that's all


To add to my previous reply, here;s another link on how to create that
floppy (it's for SBS, but the steps are the same):

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;214748


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Ace

Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
 
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Herb Martin

it's not "homework" :)
but i'm change active partition from C to D
then i can't boot from D , Because it's not System Disk
that's why i need boot from another disk and change active Disk from D

Ok, then I guessed right. Make boot disk by formatting
with NT/2000 class machine and copying the root C:\
files. You can get most of them from another machine
usually EXCEPT Boot.ini which is machine (hard drive
configuration) dependent but might be copyable/hackable.

Or boot with CD-ROM to Recovery Console and try the
(limited) tools there.

After than, a new version of Norton Tools or some such.

(I actually had a machine whose SYSTEM Disk was D:
for a while - we always say C:\ with the startup files is
the System disk, but that is not ABSOLUTELY true.)
 
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Herb Martin

Ace gave you the detail.

Key with IDE disks is this:

Rdisk for first drive is usually Rdisk(0)
Second drive is Rdisk(1)
Second channel/controller #1 drive is Rdisk(2)
Second channel/controller #2 drive is Rdisk(3)

Multi(0) and DISK(0) are irrelevant to IDE just leave
them at 0.

Partition is almost always 1, the first on THAT drive.
 
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Ace Fekay [MVP]

In
posted their thoughts said:
Ok, then I guessed right. Make boot disk by formatting
with NT/2000 class machine and copying the root C:\
files. You can get most of them from another machine
usually EXCEPT Boot.ini which is machine (hard drive
configuration) dependent but might be copyable/hackable.

<snip>

Yep, you can take any boot.ini, but you just need to know where your boot
partition is to set the ARC path correctly.
:)



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Regards,
Ace

Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
 
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Tark Siala

hi
thank's about all this information
now i ask about Utility in Win2000 like "FDISK.EXE" in old MS-DOS
when i can manage my Harddisks in Command Prompt Mode
without entered Win2000 GUI ???
thank's

"Ace Fekay [MVP]"
 
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Carrie Garth \(MVP\)

Hi Tark,

You can manage your hard drive from the Recovery Console using the DiskPart and
Format commands. For more information on the commands search Windows 2000 Help for
the topic titled: Recovery Console Commands

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Carrie Garth, Microsoft MVP for Windows 2000
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: "Tark Siala" <tarksiala AT hotmail DOT com>
: Wrote in message : Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 05:46 PM
: hi
: thank's about all this information
: now i ask about Utility in Win2000 like "FDISK.EXE" in old MS-DOS
: when i can manage my Harddisks in Command Prompt Mode
: without entered Win2000 GUI ???
: thank's <SNIP>
 

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