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Luis Cobian
Well, if you have ever programmed on Linux your are running into things that
are strangely reminescent of 1980s *nix, which is even worse if you ask me
Well, if you have ever programmed on Linux your are running into things that
are strangely reminescent of 1980s *nix, which is even worse if you ask me
G
Gary R. Schmidt
Which one?Luis said:(Some people would doubt that M$ learned anything but I think
Well, at least they **have** a decent API. Don't let me started about other
OS
VMS? RSX? TOPS? OS9? OS/2? RSTS? pSOS? AOS/VS? CTOS? BTOS?
MPE? CP-M? PC/MS-DOS? MacOS? Solaris? AIX? HPUX? Tru64? SunOS?
Ultrix? OSF-1? Xenix? DomainOS? Dynix? DG-UX? Netware? Etcetera,
etcetera, et-bloody-cetera...
Cheers,
Gary B-)
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Gary R. Schmidt
Newbie.Luis said:Well, if you have ever programmed on Linux your are running into things that
are strangely reminescent of 1980s *nix, which is even worse if you ask me
UNIX, btw, started in 1971.
Cheers,
Gary B-)
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Luis Cobian
And your point? BTW , I hate religions, so let's end this silly discussion.
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ulf_honkanen
Gary said:
Mhh... Newbie? You *know* who are you talking to? I doubd the author of
Cobian Backup and a handfull of other great utilities is a newbie. What
have *you* done?
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Thomas Lauer
Gary R. Schmidt said:
Well, the reasons for *that* are obvious
But I honestly think they do learn. Sometimes. Something.
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Gary R. Schmidt
Written software for over 20 years, perhaps?
Cheers,
Gary B-)
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Renan
SELECT * FROM alt.comp.freeware WHERE AUTHOR = David:
I get your point.
Unfortunately, some (rather stupid) programs like to write INI files in
the WINDOWS folder.
Since only users with administrative rights can write on the WINDOWS
directory, only the "Administrator" can use them.
Usually, registry corruption (at least for me) meant failing hardware
(bad RAM or bad hard drive) or corrupted filesystem. I'm yet to get a
corrupt registry with a NTFS file system.
I get your point.
Unfortunately, some (rather stupid) programs like to write INI files in
the WINDOWS folder.
Since only users with administrative rights can write on the WINDOWS
directory, only the "Administrator" can use them.
Usually, registry corruption (at least for me) meant failing hardware
(bad RAM or bad hard drive) or corrupted filesystem. I'm yet to get a
corrupt registry with a NTFS file system.
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Renan
From Gary R. Schmidt to alt.comp.freeware:
VMS. Increase each letter by 1, gives WNT . Coincidence, or not?
(Actually, I remember that one of the VMS developers worked on Windows
NT)
I never programmed VMS, though I know some commands.
VMS. Increase each letter by 1, gives WNT . Coincidence, or not?
(Actually, I remember that one of the VMS developers worked on Windows
NT)
I never programmed VMS, though I know some commands.
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Gary R. Schmidt
Yes.Renan said:
Take my surname, "schmidt".
What's nominally the middle letter oh the English alphabet: M
Put an H in front of it: HM
What letter comes after H? I, put that on the end: HMI
Put a C in front, CHMI, what's after C? D, on the end: CHMID
Put an S in front, SCHMI, what's after S? T: SCHMIDT.
Obviously the universe is trying to tell us something!
More than one. A few from Digital went to the joint IBM/MS OS/2 project
(religious reasons, they were VMS zealots and DEC was heading towards
UNIX as a primary OS), and when MS pulled out of that they went with MS
and so we got NT. OS/2, of course, died. As did DEC.
NT's "original" name was "OS/2 Version 3"
Cheers,
Gary B-)
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Thomas Lauer
Gary R. Schmidt said:
Thanks for that, Gary. A very good one
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Daniel Mandic
Gary said:
Hi Gary Schmidt!
Universe is Uni. Uni is One.
That what you told is mostly dual, and Schmidt a central German
Surname. (Dualism Experts)
You started so genius and broke everything by saying it has something
to do with universe ;-)
Universe Name is "je", "jeh" ... some Jamaican say "Jah".
Kind Regards,
Daniel Mandic
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Renan
From Gary R. Schmidt to alt.comp.freeware:
DEC was bought by Compaq, and Compaq was bought by HP.
And OpenVMS lives!
They still sell OpenVMS systems: http://h71000.www7.hp.com/
DEC was bought by Compaq, and Compaq was bought by HP.
And OpenVMS lives!
They still sell OpenVMS systems: http://h71000.www7.hp.com/
G
Gary R. Schmidt
Yes, but the Alpha is dead.Renan said:
Cheers,
Gary B-)
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Spacey Spade
In reply to Luis Cobian:
1) Security and sharing a program with 5 users
For simple maintenance's sake, I avoid this by getting 5 computers.
Really.
2) Multithreading
I know little about this, but, I'd prefer the programmer have a harder
time (figuring out clever ways around this) than the users having to
redo their settings because they forgot to back up the registry key.
Think that the programmer is also a user. Don't open multiple
instances.
3) Flexibility with types of information that can be stored
Information is information. What difference does it make what type it
is? At least strings are readable in a text editor.
4) Speed
Right, load everything when windows starts, rather than when you need
it! What? 200 milliseconds to load an ini file from the hard drive,
which then stays in RAM?
Nope, haven't convinced me
1) Security and sharing a program with 5 users
For simple maintenance's sake, I avoid this by getting 5 computers.
Really.
2) Multithreading
I know little about this, but, I'd prefer the programmer have a harder
time (figuring out clever ways around this) than the users having to
redo their settings because they forgot to back up the registry key.
Think that the programmer is also a user. Don't open multiple
instances.
3) Flexibility with types of information that can be stored
Information is information. What difference does it make what type it
is? At least strings are readable in a text editor.
4) Speed
Right, load everything when windows starts, rather than when you need
it! What? 200 milliseconds to load an ini file from the hard drive,
which then stays in RAM?
Nope, haven't convinced me
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Luis Cobian
Hello !
No comment. You *do* realize that this is a silly argument, don't you.
As I said, it's the programmers business to povide an easy way to backup the
settings. Multiple instances must be open sometime. You don't want to limit
the number of instances, believe me, that is plain silly.
The ini files don't exist for the user, but for the program. The settings
should be modified using a dialog box and NEVER NEVER NEVER editing the ini
file directly. So many things could go wrong here.
Sometimes a lot more.
I don't want to. I have already convinced myself.
No comment. You *do* realize that this is a silly argument, don't you.
As I said, it's the programmers business to povide an easy way to backup the
settings. Multiple instances must be open sometime. You don't want to limit
the number of instances, believe me, that is plain silly.
The ini files don't exist for the user, but for the program. The settings
should be modified using a dialog box and NEVER NEVER NEVER editing the ini
file directly. So many things could go wrong here.
Sometimes a lot more.
I don't want to. I have already convinced myself.
T
Thomas Lauer
Luis Cobian said:
But then again, being able to copy and paste configurations in INI files
can be a great time saver for people who know what they're doing.
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Luis Cobian
Well, yes. Ditto for exporting/importing registry keys
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ulf_honkanen
For simple maintenance's sake, I avoid this by getting 5 computers.
Well, man I want YOU to work at my kid's school. 500 students and their
computer class has only 100 computers. Yeah, multiuser systems are not
necesary. Right.
Well, I don't want ANY program you design. I ***HATE*** when programs
don't allow me to open multiple instances. If things were as you want
it would be a pain in the a** even to copy some text from notepad to
notepad because only one instance could be open at the same time.
I'd say, get a grip.
Well, man I want YOU to work at my kid's school. 500 students and their
computer class has only 100 computers. Yeah, multiuser systems are not
necesary. Right.
Well, I don't want ANY program you design. I ***HATE*** when programs
don't allow me to open multiple instances. If things were as you want
it would be a pain in the a** even to copy some text from notepad to
notepad because only one instance could be open at the same time.
I'd say, get a grip.
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Spacey Spade
1) Security and sharing a program with 5 users
Not for those who can afford it. It is the superior solution.
Ok then, back up the settings automatically when the program closes,
into a file in the same directory as the program. When the program
starts and does not find settings in the registry, have it use the file
to import registry settings back to the registry. Or just use an ini
file. Don't give the user yet one more maintenance task. I think this
is why ACF users prefer ini files... they are maintenance free.
I edit the registry. I edit ini files. It's up to the user to decide
if they are up to it, or are you saying they do not have the right to
choose? May I ask... do you live in China? Perhaps the Chinese are on
to something here. After all, the average citizen does not know best
what is right, and they should be protected. Come to think of it, I
agree with you completely. I shall stop editing these things.
1) Do you have some stats?
2) Do you know of any operating systems that don't use the windows
style registry?
Not for those who can afford it. It is the superior solution.
Ok then, back up the settings automatically when the program closes,
into a file in the same directory as the program. When the program
starts and does not find settings in the registry, have it use the file
to import registry settings back to the registry. Or just use an ini
file. Don't give the user yet one more maintenance task. I think this
is why ACF users prefer ini files... they are maintenance free.
I edit the registry. I edit ini files. It's up to the user to decide
if they are up to it, or are you saying they do not have the right to
choose? May I ask... do you live in China? Perhaps the Chinese are on
to something here. After all, the average citizen does not know best
what is right, and they should be protected. Come to think of it, I
agree with you completely. I shall stop editing these things.
1) Do you have some stats?
2) Do you know of any operating systems that don't use the windows
style registry?