Firefox 1.05

[Michael Salem]

Can [Firefox] save the web page as a single file like IE does?

No. Furthermore I find the Firefox Save As Text much worse than IE's.
But I generally prefer Firefox. The solution to these and some
compatibility problems is to use Firefox extension "IeView" which adds a
menu option "View this page in IE". An extra right-click, followed by a
mouse movement and a left-click and a wait for the page to load. I
prefer to do this than use IE; others will differ.

One of the useful features of FF (I don't remember if native or an
extension) is its ability to increase or decrease text size
indefinitely, using either Ctrl & + or -, or Ctrl-scroll with the wheel.

Best wishes,

 

[elaich]

Nope!

So people are touting an insecure browser. How far back does K-Meleon go?
There have been serious security issues repaired in Firefox since 1.0.

 

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That doesn't answer the question. Can you save the web page as a single
file like IE does?

IE cannot save a Page as Single File The Explorer can Handle the File
and the according Folder together so that it looks like one File but
it isnt.

Till then,
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[Slarty]

Re: Firefox Update
U.S. English only. G.B. is still 1.04

And it disables all your 'old' extensions.

As many/most(?) extensions seem to come in that category, I've reverted to
1.0.4 for now.

I thought Firefox had stopped doing that. I can't say I'm too pleased.

Cheers,

Roy

 

[Krull]

And it disables all your 'old' extensions.

As many/most(?) extensions seem to come in that category, I've
reverted to
1.0.4 for now.

I thought Firefox had stopped doing that. I can't say I'm too pleased.

It's called progress.

 

[Krull]

No!

Firefox can with an extension (can't remember it's name, but it can).

 

[Duddits]

Can [Firefox] save the web page as a single file like IE does?

No. Furthermore I find the Firefox Save As Text much worse than IE's.
But I generally prefer Firefox. The solution to these and some
compatibility problems is to use Firefox extension "IeView" which adds a
menu option "View this page in IE". An extra right-click, followed by a
mouse movement and a left-click and a wait for the page to load. I
prefer to do this than use IE; others will differ.

One of the useful features of FF (I don't remember if native or an
extension) is its ability to increase or decrease text size
indefinitely, using either Ctrl & + or -, or Ctrl-scroll with the wheel.

Best wishes

The extension "Mozilla Archive Format" allows saving pages as .mht or it's
own format - .maf

regards

Dud

 

[Michael Salem]

And it disables all your 'old' extensions.

As many/most(?) extensions seem to come in that category, I've reverted to
1.0.4 for now.

I thought Firefox had stopped doing that. I can't say I'm too pleased.

I have updated Firefox to 1.05, installing on top of 1.04. All
extensions that I'm using work fine.

 

[Kerodo]

So people are touting an insecure browser. How far back does K-Meleon go?
There have been serious security issues repaired in Firefox since 1.0.

Those who use K-Meleon also can visit the KM forum, where there are
several folks making updated versions each time a new Mozilla is
released. There are even KM's based on Moz 1.8 beta and so on. So
whenever a security issue is fixed in Moz/FF, there will most likely be
an updated KM available with those fixes too.

I have tried KM and find it just doesn't have the features and ease of
use I want compared to FF. KM also seems to have bugs that don't get
fixed either.

But it's an interesting alternative for some.

 

[Kerodo]

Yeah, I've had -0- crashes, problems, et. al. in a year. What a
piece of crap.

I have had KM crash on me many times, in just a few days use. IE
crashes frequently too, so that's not saying much, but KM seems buggier
than FF to me. Your mileage may (and apparently does) vary...

 

[Mike Andrade]

I have had KM crash on me many times, in just a few days use.

Which could be caused by a variety of things. Have you posted in the
K-Meleon forums?

IE

crashes frequently too, so that's not saying much, but KM seems
buggier than FF to me. Your mileage may (and apparently does)
vary...

A browser like K-Meleon is sensitive and reacts to minute tweaks,
both hits and misses. It is open-source and constantly being
released by a variety of people in a variety of flavors. The key is
to find the flavor you like, get in touch with the author, and work
on it until it's what you want. The author of my particular build
went to extraordinary lengths to help me get it functioning on my
computer the way I want. I cannot get that with any other Windows
browser.

Of course, for the average computer user, that's simply too much
work. I'd rather work on something and make it behave /exactly/ as I
want it to than to settle for something I can simply live with.

All that aside, if your browser of choice, regardless of the maker,
is crashing frequently, or fairly frequently, or even occasionally,
I'd say there's something pretty messed up somewhere on your system.

 

[Old Gringo]

New update available at http://www.mozilla.org/ . This is a 4.7mb download.


HTH

Thanks, I got the Thunderbird update also.

 

[Kerodo]

Which could be caused by a variety of things. Have you posted in the
K-Meleon forums?

IE

A browser like K-Meleon is sensitive and reacts to minute tweaks,
both hits and misses. It is open-source and constantly being
released by a variety of people in a variety of flavors. The key is
to find the flavor you like, get in touch with the author, and work
on it until it's what you want. The author of my particular build
went to extraordinary lengths to help me get it functioning on my
computer the way I want. I cannot get that with any other Windows
browser.

Of course, for the average computer user, that's simply too much
work. I'd rather work on something and make it behave /exactly/ as I
want it to than to settle for something I can simply live with.

Mike, I agree with most of your comments above.. I have posted before
on the KM forums and like the few builds I have tried. I am impressed
that they are constantly working on KM updates there at the forum.
Pretty nice indeed.

I do like KM, but I guess I prefer FF right now, where I don't have to
edit config files to modify things, and I like the FF extensions (many
to choose from). Editing config files gives you more power I suppose,
but to me it's like being back in the DOS days and editing batch files
and so on. Not my cup of tea any more at this point. I have also used
a thousand firewalls, some with great power, but now prefer those that
are easiest to use and get the job done well.

I have used Mozilla, KM, Firefox, and most of the IE wrappers, and
settled pretty much on FF. FF by the way has not crashed on me since
the old .5-.7 days. I can't say that for IE or KM.

All that aside, if your browser of choice, regardless of the maker,
is crashing frequently, or fairly frequently, or even occasionally,
I'd say there's something pretty messed up somewhere on your system.

Brand new freshly reformatted/reinstalled Win2k system here (5 days
old). In fact, I reformat quite frequently just to keep things clean.
It's simple and easy for me here, and for a few hours work, I can have a
fresh system all the time.

Browser crashing is nothing new. Happens all the time. Probably always
will. Nothing is perfect, but FF is the best I've seen lately..

But KM is great for those who love it too..

 

[Mike Andrade]

Browser crashing is nothing new.

That is indeed an odd comment. I've /never/ had IE crash (on Win98se
or XP), admittedly I use it very rarely. KM crashed on me a couple
of times when I first tried it...but as I said, working with the
author fixed that. FF, which I use more than IE, has crashed the
most...and the forums have been the /least/ helpful. But even at
that, I can count the number of browser crashes, total, on both
hands.

Clean system or no, I'd be looking into those crashes. Honestly,
when FF crashes, it surprises the hell out of me because it is a rare
occurence. If KM /ever/ crashed again, I'd be digging around like a
maniac trying to figure out why.

 

[Kerodo]

That is indeed an odd comment. I've /never/ had IE crash (on Win98se
or XP), admittedly I use it very rarely. KM crashed on me a couple
of times when I first tried it...but as I said, working with the
author fixed that. FF, which I use more than IE, has crashed the
most...and the forums have been the /least/ helpful. But even at
that, I can count the number of browser crashes, total, on both
hands.

Clean system or no, I'd be looking into those crashes. Honestly,
when FF crashes, it surprises the hell out of me because it is a rare
occurence. If KM /ever/ crashed again, I'd be digging around like a
maniac trying to figure out why.

I will admit that most of the crashes happen with IE. It's not a
frequent occurrence, but it does happen, even after a fresh reformat
with all the updates. I think if you browse to enough sites often
enough, then you will probably see ANY browser crash once in a while.
This is what I'm referring to. It's not like it's happening daily here,
or anything to worry about. If I see something happening frequently,
then I worry and look for the problem/solution. But infrequent
occurences don't bother me.

KM was crashing most for me with that image Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V cut and paste
bug, which they seem to have fixed. I posted at the forum on that one.
But there is still some odd behavior with cut and paste on some sites,
like FoxNews for example. If I try to cut and paste an image from a
popup window there by highlighting the image with my mouse and using
Ctrl-C/V, I can only cut and paste one image before it stops working.
This would seem to be a bug. I have not posted on that, but perhaps I
will check it out again and post something to the forum if I can be more
detailed about it.

Believe it or not, Firefox has not crashed on me in almost a year. That
is amazing to me.

I will give you that help is not as accessible via the Firefox forums.
KM forums are great in that respect, from what I've seen.

I guess my preference for FF is just mostly an ease of use and features
thing. Perhaps I was being unfair to KM in my original post about bugs.
After all, I have also seen bugs in FF and Mozilla too. None of them
are without a few bugs here or there..

 

[MLC]

Il Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:30:44 +0100, Slarty ha scritto:

And it disables all your 'old' extensions.

As many/most(?) extensions seem to come in that category, I've reverted to
1.0.4 for now.

I thought Firefox had stopped doing that. I can't say I'm too pleased.

All my installed extensions, themes, plugins work with Firefox/1.0.5.
Here's the list generated by InfoLister:

Last updated: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 07:37:53 GMT

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.9)
Gecko/20050711 Firefox/1.0.5

*** Extensions (enabled: 23, disabled: 0)
Gmail Notifier 0.4.3
IE View 1.2.4
InfoLister 0.8.2
Adblock 0.5.2.039
Send To 0.3
Add Bookmark Here 0.5.3
Auto Copy 0.5.4
ChromEdit 0.1.1.1
Copy URL + 1.3.1
Download Scan 1.0
fireFTP 0.88.3
Sage 1.3.5
ScrapBook 0.15.5
Work Offline 0.6
BlogThis 0.3
Furl Tools 0.6
ColorZilla 0.8.2
Save Image in Folder 0.5
Image-Show-Hide 0.1.6
Enhanced Bookmark Search 0.1.3.02
Locate in Bookmark Folders 0.2.1
Google Toolbar for Firefox 1.0.20050707
StumbleUpon 2.02

*** Themes (2)
Outlook 2003 Silver 1.0.1 [selected]
Firefox (default) 2.0

*** Plugins (7)
QuickTime Plug-in
Mozilla Default Plug-in
Free Download Manager Click Catcher Plug-In for Netscape, Opera, Mozilla
Shockwave Flash
Java(TM) 2 Platform Standard Edition 5.0 Update 3
Microsoft® DRM
Windows Media Player Plug-in Dynamic Link Library

 

[John Corliss]

And it disables all your 'old' extensions.

Hmm... my experience was that it installed seamlessly over my copy of
1.0.4, and didn't touch any of my extensions.

As many/most(?) extensions seem to come in that category, I've reverted to
1.0.4 for now.

I thought Firefox had stopped doing that. I can't say I'm too pleased.

Well, of course to be fair, I guess it depends on the extension. Guess I
just got lucky. 80)>

 

[Jack Purvis]

I'm using 1.05 and both my extensions (Statusbar Clock and IE View)
work perfectly. This is not to say that all extensions will work but
don't let it put you off installing 1.05.

I have updated Firefox to 1.05, installing on top of 1.04. All
extensions that I'm using work fine.

Jack Purvis

 

[The Six Million Dollar Man]

And it disables all your 'old' extensions.

As many/most(?) extensions seem to come in that category, I've reverted to
1.0.4 for now.

My Roboform Toolbar was the only extension that I had a problem with.
Thankfully a new version was released today.

 

[Paul B.]

I'm using 1.05 and both my extensions (Statusbar Clock and IE
View) work perfectly. This is not to say that all extensions
will work but don't let it put you off installing 1.05.

RoboForm doesn't work with 1.0.5, despite its claims to the
contrary.

p.