Elephant Boy Computers - top spammer

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On 12/15/2007 10:28 AM On a whim, Mike Hall - MVP pounded out on the
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Not if you read the post above.. :-)
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Ah, now you expect everyone to view All Threads, just so those who want
to top post using a MS news client that strips everything relevant?
What if the person only views Unread? You want them to switch the view
just because of the stubborn attitudes of the few?

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Terry R.

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On 12/15/2007 10:28 AM On a whim, Mike Hall - MVP pounded out on the
keyboard


Ah, now you expect everyone to view All Threads, just so those who want
to top post using a MS news client that strips everything relevant?
What if the person only views Unread? You want them to switch the view
just because of the stubborn attitudes of the few?
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Well, they don't understand how Usenet works, as they are a product of
Microsoft Forums. Their understanding of how delimiters work,
particularly upon "reply" is simply not there.

It's just another case of poorly coded software attempting to change a
standard because they think "they can".

Additionally they wear the MVP Badge of Arrogance ©
(Note: Not all MVP's, of course. Actually, not most MVP's))
 
Detlev said:
Nope, doesn't work either. As for all of these special keys, the behavior
depends *always* on the application - "XanaNews Version 1.18.1.6".
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Well, with XanaNews I guess you have to scroll. Not having used it, I
can't really say. I know it works with most news readers.

Alias
 
On 12/15/2007 12:40 PM On a whim, Mike Hall - MVP pounded out on the
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It is always good to read the 'whole' story..
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Yes, that has been my point all along. Thank you. And because you use a
faulty mail/news client that inserts a bogus delimiter when you choose
top posting, you effectively remove "the 'whole' story."

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Nope, doesn't work either. As for all of these special keys, the behavior
depends *always* on the application - "XanaNews Version 1.18.1.6".
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Well, with XanaNews I guess you have to scroll. Not having used it, I
can't really say. I know it works with most news readers.

Alias[/QUOTE]

And I can't see that a program so full featured for newsgroups would
leave out a simple method to get to the end of a message window.

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Terry R.

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On 12/15/2007 4:43 PM On a whim, Shenan Stanley pounded out on the keyboard
<this conversation in its entirety>

http://groups.google.com/group/micr...c/67fd8b1acea441f4?lnk=st&q=#67fd8b1acea441f4
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Yes, let's rely on Google Groups because a few like the idea of wiping
out everything in a thread. BTW, just WHO were you replying to, since
you decided to take out ALL relevant material? GG shows your reply as
#72 and mine was #71, but Wally's was #73 and his post was from
yesterday, so you can't rely on that too well either.

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Terry R.

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That is the fault of the poster if they don't snip what isn't relevant
to their reply. Sure laziness can cause a lengthy post. But to take
out EVERYTHING because of a delimiter being used when top posting is
just wrong. Look at your answer above. It looks like you just made a
comment out of nowhere.
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Not that I want to get in the war here, but Top Posting is a sign of
disrespect once you've been informed of the proper method. Top posting
is most common among the ignorant masses and people that believe they
are special and the norms don't apply to them.

The proper posting method is to assume that all previous posts have not
been read, that they are unavailable, since usenet can drop posts based
on many factors, and that the person doing the reply will SNIP parts
that are unneeded. If this is followed there is almost no need to scroll
in a windowed reader and the responses properly from from oldest to
newest, like a book or snail mail would.

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Leythos
- Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.
- Calling an illegal alien an "undocumented worker" is like calling a
drug dealer an "unlicensed pharmacist"
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On 12/15/2007 12:40 PM On a whim, Mike Hall - MVP pounded out on the
keyboard


Yes, that has been my point all along. Thank you. And because you use a
faulty mail/news client that inserts a bogus delimiter when you choose
top posting, you effectively remove "the 'whole' story."
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Well, as he says, "arrogance begets arrogance".

Maybe he should rethink that one.
 
Not that I want to get in the war here, but Top Posting is a sign of
disrespect once you've been informed of the proper method. Top posting
is most common among the ignorant masses and people that believe they
are special and the norms don't apply to them.

The proper posting method is to assume that all previous posts have not
been read, that they are unavailable, since usenet can drop posts based
on many factors, and that the person doing the reply will SNIP parts
that are unneeded. If this is followed there is almost no need to scroll
in a windowed reader and the responses properly from from oldest to
newest, like a book or snail mail would.
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Lythos, please don't try to use logic and common sense.

We need to be talking about feelings and the inborn right to do whatever
we want to.

Did you happen to see the South Park episode where the kids banded
together to beat the guy who was taking over the computer game?

When I reply to a certain someone in here, the picture of that guy pops
into my head.
 
There was a point where I almost decided to start bottom posting, but as it
is used as a snipe by people when their other points fail, I will continue
top posting.. call it arrogance if you like..
 
skidz said:
By incessantly posting their sig as a reply to other spam messages.
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Hey - I live in Australia - I'm going to call Malke for a house call?

I find her and most others that post here to be a great resourse.

You join the other ratbags who have nothing to add, but disruption. Get a
life.

Bill
 
There was a point where I almost decided to start bottom posting, but as it
is used as a snipe by people when their other points fail, I will continue
top posting.. call it arrogance if you like..
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I'll go with your definition.
 
There was a point where I almost decided to start bottom posting, but
as it is used as a snipe by people when their other points fail, I
will continue top posting.. call it arrogance if you like..
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To be fair, Leythos wasn't advocating bottom-posting. Contextualized
inline posting, using generous snipping without cutting away too much
"story" is the easiest type of post to follow. It may take a few more
seconds to post this way, but the dividends are certainly worth the tiny
effort.

Oh, and in my newsreader (OE along with OE QuoteFix), scrolling is
easily accomplished by pressing the space bar.
 
It is interesting to note...
Posters are mostly in two categories.
Those that top post and those that bottom post.

What I have often found interesting is that there are those in one of
those groups that are intolerant of those in the other and they are
almost exclusively bottom posters.
That is not to say all bottom posters are intolerant, but the majority
of those intolerant are bottom posters.
Top posters rarely complain about posting methods and instead are
tolerant of others.
 
Terry R. said:
And I can't see that a program so full featured for newsgroups would
leave out a simple method to get to the end of a message window.
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A simple method to get to the end of a message makes only sense while
replying. "XanaNews" places the cursor at the bottom of the message in
that case. Isn't that simple enough?
 
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