connection problem - dial-up and broadband conflicting

[frankg]

XP Pro

We have an internet connection (for a 2 machine network) through a router
connected to a DSL modem. Works well.
But, for access to one particular server (for work purposes) we also have to
have a dial-up (modem) connection .
Problem is that after using the dial-up modem to access this particular
server, our broadband internet connection is lost - totally.
All the router settings are still good and the DSL modem is still on but
there's no way of it connecting to the net.
I suspect the dial-up is 'kinda replacing' the router, and I dont see
anywhere/way to set the router as the default and for the dial-up to just
leave it alone - do it's one trick job and then go back to sleep.
The only way I could re-astablish the dsl internet connection was to go to
network connections and setup a new connection again - i cant do this every
time I use the dial-up modem.

Any help please.

 

[Duane Arnold]

XP Pro

We have an internet connection (for a 2 machine network) through a
router connected to a DSL modem. Works well.
But, for access to one particular server (for work purposes) we also
have to have a dial-up (modem) connection .
Problem is that after using the dial-up modem to access this
particular server, our broadband internet connection is lost -
totally. All the router settings are still good and the DSL modem is
still on but there's no way of it connecting to the net.
I suspect the dial-up is 'kinda replacing' the router, and I dont see
anywhere/way to set the router as the default and for the dial-up to
just leave it alone - do it's one trick job and then go back to
sleep. The only way I could re-astablish the dsl internet connection
was to go to network connections and setup a new connection again - i
cant do this every time I use the dial-up modem.

Any help please.

I don't see why you cannot have two different connection types using the
Network Wizard. You should be able to set up one connection for dial-up
and another one for the DSL connection. When you want to use the dial-up
connection, you disable the DSL connection and enable the Dial-up
connection. When you want to use the DSL connection you enable the
connection and disable the Dial-up connection.

My XP Pro laptop has a built-in wire NIC and a wireless NIC and when I
want to connect with the wire to the router, I disable the wireless
network connection and enable the wire connection. I do the opposite when
using the wireless connection.

You would have two Network Connection icons. You may have to boot the
machine when you switch between the two. Or you go to the DOS Command
Prompt and entry IPconfig /release IPconfig /renew to reestablish the DSL
connection. You can try it and see if it works for you.

Duane

 

[Jerry G.]

An interesting one to try with Explorer is to go to Tools, Internet Options,
and then Connections. Put a selection on "Never dial a network connection",
and press okay.

When you want to dial with the modem to connect to somewhere, you will now
have to double click on the associated dialup connection, and let it connect
manually. After you do the disconnect, things should revert back to the LAN
again. For convenience, you can make a shortcut on to your desktop from the
dialup program that is in the network connections folder.

--

Jerry G.
==========================


XP Pro

We have an internet connection (for a 2 machine network) through a router
connected to a DSL modem. Works well.
But, for access to one particular server (for work purposes) we also have to
have a dial-up (modem) connection .
Problem is that after using the dial-up modem to access this particular
server, our broadband internet connection is lost - totally.
All the router settings are still good and the DSL modem is still on but
there's no way of it connecting to the net.
I suspect the dial-up is 'kinda replacing' the router, and I dont see
anywhere/way to set the router as the default and for the dial-up to just
leave it alone - do it's one trick job and then go back to sleep.
The only way I could re-astablish the dsl internet connection was to go to
network connections and setup a new connection again - i cant do this every
time I use the dial-up modem.

Any help please.

 

[Kelly]

Great point, Jerry!

 

[treehugger]

XP Pro

We have an internet connection (for a 2 machine network) through a router
connected to a DSL modem. Works well.
But, for access to one particular server (for work purposes) we also have to
have a dial-up (modem) connection .
Problem is that after using the dial-up modem to access this particular
server, our broadband internet connection is lost - totally.
All the router settings are still good and the DSL modem is still on but
there's no way of it connecting to the net.
I suspect the dial-up is 'kinda replacing' the router, and I dont see
anywhere/way to set the router as the default and for the dial-up to just
leave it alone - do it's one trick job and then go back to sleep.
The only way I could re-astablish the dsl internet connection was to go to
network connections and setup a new connection again - i cant do this every
time I use the dial-up modem.

Any help please.

This might work well for you.....
Start.......... Run......... then type services.msc
Click ok
Scroll down to DHCP Client, click on it and click "restart the service"
Scroll down to DNS Client and click "restart the service"

Broadband should start working again after a few seconds without needing a reboot.

treehugger

 

[frankg]

We already have the 'Never dial a network connection' on. Because the dsl
connection is always active through the router.

Ususally the modem connection to this particular work related server is
activated from within the associated program. We just click 'transmit' in
the program and the modem 'kicks in' and dials the server.

Are you suggesting - that we first 'manually' dial-up ( from a shortcut on
the desktop). Once that connection is established, then go back to our
program and do the transmission?

And when it's done, then go back to the modem shortcut and disconnect (there
is a button right ? I dont have those machines with me to see this weekend)

And that this should leave the dsl router internet connection intact?

If these are the correct steps I will try it out that way.

I dont really understand why the problem is happening at all - surely the
two connections are separate enough to not interfere with one another
(Duane- I'll have to check the machines at work on Monday but I don't recall
if the 2 network connection icons have the ability to be toggled on/off or
enable/disable by right clicking it? If I recall, the dial-up was greyed out
when the lan was used/on) ?
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[TonyS]

frankg wrote:
: We already have the 'Never dial a network connection' on. Because the
: dsl connection is always active through the router.
:
: Ususally the modem connection to this particular work related server
: is activated from within the associated program. We just click
: 'transmit' in the program and the modem 'kicks in' and dials the
: server.
:
: Are you suggesting - that we first 'manually' dial-up ( from a
: shortcut on the desktop). Once that connection is established, then
: go back to our program and do the transmission?
:
: And when it's done, then go back to the modem shortcut and disconnect
: (there is a button right ? I dont have those machines with me to see
: this weekend)
:
: And that this should leave the dsl router internet connection intact?
:
: If these are the correct steps I will try it out that way.
:
: I dont really understand why the problem is happening at all - surely
: the two connections are separate enough to not interfere with one
: another (Duane- I'll have to check the machines at work on Monday but
: I don't recall if the 2 network connection icons have the ability to
: be toggled on/off or enable/disable by right clicking it? If I
: recall, the dial-up was greyed out when the lan was used/on) ?
: ==============================
:: An interesting one to try with Explorer is to go to Tools, Internet
:: Options, and then Connections. Put a selection on "Never dial a
:: network connection", and press okay.
::
:: When you want to dial with the modem to connect to somewhere, you
:: will now have to double click on the associated dialup connection,
:: and let it connect manually. After you do the disconnect, things
:: should revert back to the LAN again. For convenience, you can make a
:: shortcut on to your desktop from the dialup program that is in the
:: network connections folder.
:
I use both as Jerry describes. I loose dsl when dial-up connects and dsl
is restored when I disconnect. Only the machine using dial up looses
dsl.
TonyS
:: --
::
:: Jerry G.
:: ==========================
::
::
:: :: XP Pro
::
:: We have an internet connection (for a 2 machine network) through a
:: router connected to a DSL modem. Works well.
:: But, for access to one particular server (for work purposes) we also
:: have to have a dial-up (modem) connection .
:: Problem is that after using the dial-up modem to access this
:: particular server, our broadband internet connection is lost -
:: totally.
:: All the router settings are still good and the DSL modem is still on
:: but there's no way of it connecting to the net.
:: I suspect the dial-up is 'kinda replacing' the router, and I dont see
:: anywhere/way to set the router as the default and for the dial-up to
:: just leave it alone - do it's one trick job and then go back to
:: sleep.
:: The only way I could re-astablish the dsl internet connection was to
:: go to network connections and setup a new connection again - i cant
:: do this every time I use the dial-up modem.
::
:: Any help please.
:: --
:: xx

 

[frankg]

I use both as Jerry describes. I loose dsl when dial-up connects and dsl
is restored when I disconnect. Only the machine using dial up looses
dsl.
TonyS

how do you disconnect and restore ?

 

[TonyS]

frankg wrote:
:: I use both as Jerry describes. I loose dsl when dial-up connects and
:: dsl is restored when I disconnect. Only the machine using dial up
:: looses dsl.
:: TonyS


: how do you disconnect and restore ?
I right click on the connection icon and choose disconnect. DSL return
with out any action. I assume there can be only internet connection at a
time. Incoming calls to the modem do not interfere with the DSL.
TonyS

 

[Duane Arnold]

how do you disconnect and restore ?

Maybe, your dial-up connection to your job is using TCP/IP in someway that
is causing you grief with your DSL connection, even though it's dial-up.
After all, you are connecting to your job and not to an ISP and that is a
different situation than switching connections with the machine from dial-
up ISP to DSL ISP.

Have you talked with the Tech Support of the dial-up software about your
problems or even Tech Support at your job? Maybe that's where you should
start. To have a simple dial-up connection and switch between dial-up and
simple BB/DSL connections should not be an issue.

Duane