"click" (on/off?) noise from RAID drive, PC freezes for 10-20 seconds then ok?...see URL inside

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YouKnow

Nforce 2 board, "click" (on/off?) noise from RAID drive, PC freezes
for 10-20 seconds then ok?

I found basically the exact same problem on a web site, getting the
exact same error message in event viewer. Another site mentions
similar problems, but none so far have a concrete solution. Any ideas?

http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic24920-pg1.html

For me it's an Asus A7N8X deluxe board, 1 GB Kingston 3200 DDR. 400
Watt Antec Power supply. I'm going to try disconnecting a few things
just in case the PSU is going bad or something, but it is pretty new,
and like I said I haven't changed anything in a while (at least a good
year) My drives that seem to be going off and On are 2 Raptors 36 GB
connected to the onboard Raid SIL3112r. It seems, that when/if I try
to access this array that the click on/off/freezes occur. In fact now
Diskeeper 10 can't even defrag it.

The portion below (taken from the above URL) basically is exactly
what problem I'm having. I have not added any new hardware, or changed
anything in quite some time (at least a year), and this has otherwise
been a rock-solid system.

"Also very important details to this problem:
Motherboard uses nForce2 chipset
SATA Raid adapter is SIL3112r (though on POST screens is says 3112A)


THE PROBLEM:
This problem shows itself by freeze behavior and error log entries.

The freezing is just that, it will seem fine, then boom, it freezes
solid and you can't do

jack for a good 40 seconds. Then it unfreezes and comes to life and
acts like nothing ever

happened. This appears to be the only problem I know about. That is,
maybe it causes other

problems too? But the freezing is the main end result. And this
freezes all activity, not just

HDD operations. In other words, if I have an MP3 playing, it freezes
silent too. Then starts

playing again where it left off when it comes back.

Also, during the "freeze", keyboard strokes and possibly mouse
movements, are still cached. So

when it comes back, letters I was typing will appear, and the cursor
will jump around.

Lastly, it is extremely random. Sometimes it will freeze many times in
a hour. Sometimes it

will run good for days. I could be playing a game, or just reading a
text file and not doing

anything HDD intense. Nothing except the freeze period are timely. I
would venture to say that

the freeze time is dang near exactly the same each time. But
absolutely random to get there.

Promptly after a freeze an error log entry is created:
Type: ERROR
Source: si3112r
ID: 9
"The device, \Device\scsi\si3112r1, did not respond within the timeout
period" "

Thanks for any help!
"I say we create a new airline, called the ACLA,
the American Civil Liberties Airline where you
don’t check anybody, you don’t ask any questions,
and let those morons fly on that one".

-Dennis Miller
 
G

Guest

3112r and 3112a are basically the same controller (outdated really),but if
youre error message says 3112 did not respond,then make sure connections
and cables are secure,if all hardware seems ok,some errors like yours are
really memory problems,controller or ram itself..Try downloading microsoft
memory diagnostic utility,install to formated MS-DOS floppy,boot to floppy.
Download at:http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp If that runs ok,try
wdc MS-DOS utlity to chk the hds.Also,what is a "click on/off noise" a hd
noise
reduction???Dont ever use that if so,specially in a RAID configuration..
 
D

DL

If the noise is deffinately mechanical, as apposed to through the speaker,
you might want to run the hd manu checking utility.
Also if mirror raid, try braking the mirror, then run with a single hd to
see if problem is specific to an individual hd.
PS I had this mobo, and mirror raid. Had some 'odd' app problems. On braking
the mirror I found it was totally out of sync, allthough no warning msgs
were given and raid utility reported all ok. I purchased a dedicated raid
card and all was ok
 
W

Whatsit

YouKnow said:
Nforce 2 board, "click" (on/off?) noise from RAID drive, PC freezes
for 10-20 seconds then ok?

I found basically the exact same problem on a web site, getting the
exact same error message in event viewer. Another site mentions
similar problems, but none so far have a concrete solution. Any ideas?

http://www.techspot.com/vb/topic24920-pg1.html
<snip>

You might want to try the Asus, or nvidia (?) news groups.

I have an Abit NF7-s (same chipset), and it acted wierd with RAID, and just
having SATA drives attatched.

Seems OK now but I don't trust it much :-(
 
B

Bob Horton

Whatsit said:
<snip>

You might want to try the Asus, or nvidia (?) news groups.

I have an Abit NF7-s (same chipset), and it acted wierd with RAID, and
just having SATA drives attatched.

Seems OK now but I don't trust it much :-(


FWIW, I had a machine with an MSI board booting from a SATA drive that had
the exact same problem. For a while it seemed to be related to a corrupt
..pst file. Then it seemed to be related to a conflict between my scanner
background process. Finally it seemed to be related to Norton and its
interactions with all of the above. I never got a solution that seemed to
result in a rock-solid system until I dumped the SATA totally and
re-configured the machine with only PATA/IDE drives. It has been flawless
for two months now. The user says she hasn't even rebooted the machine
except for MS updates.

HTH and good luck!
 
Y

YouKnow

3112r and 3112a are basically the same controller (outdated really),but if
youre error message says 3112 did not respond,then make sure connections
and cables are secure,if all hardware seems ok,some errors like yours are
really memory problems,controller or ram itself..Try downloading microsoft
memory diagnostic utility,install to formated MS-DOS floppy,boot to floppy.
Download at:http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp If that runs ok,try
wdc MS-DOS utlity to chk the hds.

Ok thanks, will try that.

Also,what is a "click on/off noise" a hd
noise
reduction???

No, i'm not using any noise reduces of any kind-not for fans or hd or
anything. I really have no idea what it is. It just sounds like a
small relay or switch opening/closing over and over again at various
times. Each time this "relay or switch" opens, everything freezes,
until I hear the second click.
Dont ever use that if so,specially in a RAID configuration..
"I say we create a new airline, called the ACLA,
the American Civil Liberties Airline where you
don’t check anybody, you don’t ask any questions,
and let those morons fly on that one".

-Dennis Miller
 
F

frodo

I would try the standard things: check asus for a bios update AND a
nforce chipset update for your specific motherboard; note the one asus
recommends may not be the "latest" from nvidia - use the one asus
recommends. [nforce 2 is fairly old, the latest has stuff you won't need,
and asus has not tested].

look/ask in asus' forum, the people that frequent that area will more
likely have an answer. [use google to find the various asus forums; start
at their site of course].
 

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