Can't rename Web files in IE6?

[Michael Butler]

When I go to back-up files to CD, if my htm or mht Web files
names are too long, my CD writer will always inform me that they are an
illegal name
lengths and then will request that I either accept the files will not be
saved
to disc or can I rename them to shorter lengths! It seems that this renaming
has to be done through IE6, the problem is, is that no matter what I seem to
do I can’t get IE6 to save these Web files again under a different, shorter
name and store them in either my current folder or any other? The message I
get is: “Error Saving Page. The Web page could not be saved to the selected
location”! If I go outside IE6 and use Windows Explorer's renaming facility,
I get the message: “To rename it safely, open
file(IE6), save it with a new name and delete the old folder”. There appears
to be no answer to this conundrum. I realise that a Web file, htm is
complicated by the fact that there’s a sub folder containing all pictures
etc., and the fear is breaking that link. If I use a single archive file,
mht, I can rename outside IE6, but not within. I’ve got installed ‘Norton
Works’ and when I run the ‘Quick System Check’ tool, I noticed that no
matter
what renaming method I use there’s always a broken link, which ‘Norton’ and
I’m grateful, fixes. Have you please any ideas as to
how I can rename Web files properly? Perhaps there’re option boxes that need
to be checked or unchecked? I’ve also done ‘Google’ searches and ‘Newsgroups’
searches to no avail.

My PC is a ‘Packard Bell Xtreme, AMD Athlon, 2.5 GHz, 1 GB RAM and 120 GB
Hard drive, about 20% used. I’m running ‘Windows’ XP Home edition with SP2
and my CD/DVD re-writer is a ‘RecordNow Dx’ product, many thanks for your
thoughts and as I’m only a confident amateur PC user I apologise now, if I’ve
missed something obvious... Michael.

 

[Sandi Hardmeier - MVP]

What are these pages you are trying to back up? Pages that you have saved
using file, save page as, or your IE cache?

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[Michael Butler]

What are these pages you are trying to back up? Pages that you have saved
using file, save page as, or your IE cache?

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Thank you for your thoughts, Sandi Hardmeier, what I do in IE6 is click
‘File’ then ‘SaveAs…’ this will then produce a copy of the web page I’m
currently viewing, in a number of formats to a folder of my choice. Once it’s
there I can, at any time, off line, re-open it in IE6, but now I can’t then
re-save it again in IE6, in a shorter file name any ware on my Hard Drive?
This is what my CD writer, when backing up, wishes me to do! But IE6 and or
‘Windows XP SP2’ won’t let me? I hope that this is a little clearer than
mud, many thanks… Michael

 

[internalsu]

If you rename a .htm saved by IE6 using complete web page option, you
must rename the .htm file and the .files folder consistently, and
change the links in .htm. You can rename a .mht file as normal file. If
you can't rename it, how about open the original url and save it with
the short name again.

 

[Sandi Hardmeier - MVP]

I suppose I can't understand why you don't use the short file name in the
first place.

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[Michael Butler]

If you rename a .htm saved by IE6 using complete web page option, you
must rename the .htm file and the .files folder consistently, and
change the links in .htm. You can rename a .mht file as normal file. If
you can't rename it, how about open the original url and save it with
the short name again.

Thank you for your thoughts, to your first point I do that consistently bit
but when I run a 'Norton' 'quick check up' type scan I get "shortcut link
broken", response, no matter how I 're-name', then I get "do you want to
repair or ignore?" This is for each illegal page! I can then press 'repair'
and everything is fine and dandy, but this is all a bit cranky, there must
be a clearer way of doing this, perhaps 'Norton' shouldn't be so sensitive
and if IE advertises a feature called 'SaveAs', it should do just that. To
your second point, this is one of the first things I tried, if I go online,
then open the original url and save it with a shorter name I still get that
"Error Saving Page. The Web page could not be saved to the selected
location" or indeed any other location, I wonder if IE7 will have a clearer
re-naming feature?

 

[Michael Butler]

I suppose I can't understand why you don't use the short file name in the
first place.

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The reason is, is that with limited time, when I’m sourcing a number of
pages and I’m under a ‘PayAsYouGo’ line connection I can’t afford the luxury
of pointing a finger at the screen and counting the number of characters of
a page name to see if it’s over a limit, even by just 1 character. Of course
I could just rename every page I store, but this is clumsy and not what you
would expect from a modern browser. IE6 offers a feature called ‘SaveAs’ and
in a merchantable product you’d expect just that - ’saveAs’, about 1 page in
5 is over this ’threshold’. I would also like this to be 'Off Line' and/or
IE6 to offer a page name character counter,
warning device? Perhaps I should patent it and earn zillions. I’m really
expecting that I’m just not knowledgeable enough and I’m not checking a
particular box in options or something, not that this is an oversight by MS,
any thoughts appreciated, Michael.

 

[Alex]

I've tried saving this thread page from google groups and rename it
offline with IE6. It's fine. So I suspect the page you want to save
contains scripts confusing IE. Try MixBrowser to get over the "Error
Saving Page. The Web page could not be saved to the selected location",
http://www.internalsoft.com.

As to Norton's work It just relinks your hyperlinks in .htm file to the
files in the .files folder after your renaming. SaveAs of IE works the
same way.

 

[Michael Butler]

I've tried saving this thread page from google groups and rename it
offline with IE6. It's fine. So I suspect the page you want to save
contains scripts confusing IE. Try MixBrowser to get over the "Error
Saving Page. The Web page could not be saved to the selected location",
http://www.internalsoft.com.

As to Norton's work It just relinks your hyperlinks in .htm file to the
files in the .files folder after your renaming. SaveAs of IE works the
same way.

Thanks Alex for your helpful comments, yes I've just also tried a 'saveAs'
in
what I know to be the Outlook Express, Newsgroups browser and it saves and
re-saves in the only file extension available; '.nws' with no problems, I've
never had the need to do this before, so I've just learnt something new. But
I'm having the problems with what I know to be Internet Explorer's Web page
browser in file extensions 'htm and mht' this is where I can't saveas and
re-saveas. You have also shone some light on this problem, by saying that I
should use "MixBrowser", is this the feature under Security settings/Custom
then 'display mixed content'? There are three options : Enable, Disable and
Prompt, it's set currently to 'Prompt', if I enable this feature will my
security be compromised? I realised that Outlook Express and Internet
Explorer, IE6, are very tightly integrated, but I never knew that they are
virtually the same thing, Michael.

 

[Alex]

Do NOT change your security settings unless you know what you're doing
exactly.

MixBrowser is an offline browser that is based on IE and saves web
pages fast and effectively than IE. It's helpful if you often save web
pages when browsing or tired of getting "Error Saving Page" from IE.
You can download it from http://www.internalsoft.com. Hope it helps.

 

[Robert Aldwinckle]

When I go to back-up files to CD, if my htm or mht Web files
names are too long, my CD writer will always inform me that they are an
illegal name
lengths and then will request that I either accept the files will not be
saved
to disc or can I rename them to shorter lengths!

It seems that this renaming has to be done through IE6,

Why? I don't see why IE should provide such a feature.

the problem is, is that no matter what I seem to
do I can’t get IE6 to save these Web files again under a different, shorter
name and store them in either my current folder or any other? The message I
get is: “Error Saving Page. The Web page could not be saved to the selected
location”!

Are you opening the (multi-level) offline version and expecting to resave it?
What happens if instead you do a File, Send, Page... to OE
and then do a File, Save As... filenam8.mht?

What probably also will work is revisiting the web site and then resaving
the page with whatever the new name should be.

If I go outside IE6 and use Windows Explorer's renaming facility,
I get the message: “To rename it safely, open
file(IE6), save it with a new name and delete the old folder”.

It's just a warning that you have dependencies to consider--the .htm file
and the subdirectory. It may be safe to rename the .htm file but if you
rename the subdirectory or try to move it the .htm file can't possibly work.
Not only that (if the ones that I have saved are any standard) you will have to
edit the .htm file extensively and replace all instances of the old subdirectory
name with the new name.

Again, I suspect that probably the only designed feature for doing this
would be revisiting the site and resaving the page with a different name.

There appears
to be no answer to this conundrum. I realise that a Web file, htm is
complicated by the fact that there’s a sub folder containing all pictures
etc., and the fear is breaking that link. If I use a single archive file,
mht, I can rename outside IE6, but not within.

So? If that works that's what you should do.

I’ve got installed ‘Norton
Works’ and when I run the ‘Quick System Check’ tool, I noticed that no
matter
what renaming method I use there’s always a broken link, which ‘Norton’ and
I’m grateful, fixes. Have you please any ideas as to
how I can rename Web files properly? Perhaps there’re option boxes that need
to be checked or unchecked? I’ve also done ‘Google’ searches and ‘Newsgroups’
searches to no avail.

My PC is a ‘Packard Bell Xtreme, AMD Athlon, 2.5 GHz, 1 GB RAM and 120 GB
Hard drive, about 20% used. I’m running ‘Windows’ XP Home edition with SP2
and my CD/DVD re-writer is a ‘RecordNow Dx’ product, many thanks for your
thoughts and as I’m only a confident amateur PC user I apologise now, if I’ve
missed something obvious... Michael.

Perhaps. Have you tried using the 8.3 version of the extended filename?
I don't know if there is a GUI way to find it but in a cmd window it's
dir/x

BTW that's why I asked above what your procedure
with your deficient app is.

Also there is a tool which first came with Win95 you should probably
investigate: sulfnbk.exe Unfortunately I just know it exists and has
a few options associated with it.

<title>KB301316 - Description of Sulfnbk.exe and How to Replace the Program File</title>


Alternatively instead of doing whatever it is that you are doing
perhaps you should be zipping all the necessary components
in one 8.3 named archive and then save that to your DVD.


HTH

Robert Aldwinckle
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