Boy, did I stir up a hornet's nest!

[Fred]

I'm the one who posted, "Question about Vista" above. Yikes. It sure makes for interesting reading. However, one thing that I noted was that there was no mention at all about whether purchase of a Mac is a better choice. I realize that this is not a Mac forum, but I just bet that there's a whole other thread waiting to start on this one. Just so you know, advice I've received includes:
a.. Don't touch Vista
b.. Vista is just fine
c.. Wait for Windows 7
d.. If you think Win7 will work perfectly at release, you're not thinking right
e.. Run, don't walk, to the Apple store
f.. Go ahead, pay twice as much (or more) for a Mac
Why, oh why, did my other computer have to crash? I don't need this.

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

If you want a very nice, safe and secure computer, purchase a mid-range HP computer that
comes with Windows Vista Home Edition preinstalled. Do not listen to the trolls who advocate otherwise!


I'm the one who posted, "Question about Vista" above. Yikes. It sure makes for interesting reading. However, one thing that I
noted was that there was no mention at all about whether purchase of a Mac is a better choice. I realize that this is not a Mac
forum, but I just bet that there's a whole other thread waiting to start on this one. Just so you know, advice I've received
includes:
a.. Don't touch Vista
b.. Vista is just fine
c.. Wait for Windows 7
d.. If you think Win7 will work perfectly at release, you're not thinking right
e.. Run, don't walk, to the Apple store
f.. Go ahead, pay twice as much (or more) for a Mac
Why, oh why, did my other computer have to crash? I don't need this.

 

[Drew]

Personally I think you should build or purchase what you think is right for
your use. I built my pc with Vista business just before the beta release of
vista. I have been running it since then and nary a problem whatsoever! That
does not mean others do not have any problems but I have not. Vista I find
requires a lot of horsepower to cruise nicely. I have found the majority of
problems come from upgrading to Vista rather than doing a clean install with
new hardware. Also I personally believe if Mac's or Linux were that great
then these so called trolls would not be hanging out here now would they?
Vista is a lot more secure than xp ever was and as long as you are dilligent
in protecting your self than you will never have a problem. As long as you
choose the right drivers for your system you should also be fine. Do not use
"borderline" hardware as this will only cause problems! I am not necessarily
a "windows" fan but until something better comes along I will continue to
use it... Just my 3 cents

 

[Alias]

If you want a very nice, safe and secure computer, purchase a mid-range HP computer
Chuckle.

that
comes with Windows Vista Home Edition preinstalled.

Kinda hard to do considering that Windows Vista Home Edition doesn't
exist. Or did you mean Windows Home Basic? If so, another little chuckle.

Do not listen to the trolls who advocate otherwise!

Yeah, listen to Carey, who is sooooooooooo informed.

Alias

 

[Spanky deMonkey, OB/GYN]

If you want a very nice, safe and secure computer, purchase a mid-range HP
computer that
comes with Windows Vista Home Edition preinstalled. Do not listen to the
trolls who advocate otherwise!

Nobody should purchase an HP computer. They are not very good quality and
HP loads tons of advertising on them. Poor choice for anyone to buy an HP
computer.

 

[Spanky deMonkey, OB/GYN]

What a ****tard... the problem is not the hardware, but the vista-shit-os
software that will come preinstalled


like the decision your momma made to not have an abortion!
I agree very poor choice!

Shove your head back up your ass where it belongs

 

[DanS]

Why, oh why, did my other computer have to crash? I don't need this.

You never did mention this in your other post.

Define crash.

The term 'crash' is most often used for a s/w malfunction of some
type.....almost all of which can be resolved w/o having to buy a new
computer.

Many 'crashes' are a result of bad RAM, or faulty power supply, either of
which is *significantly* less expensive than buying a new system.

 

[Bill Sharpe]

Nobody should purchase an HP computer. They are not very good quality
and HP loads tons of advertising on them. Poor choice for anyone to buy
an HP computer.

I'm on my third HP. Only problem was the first one that had Windows ME
installed. Once upgraded to XP, computer ran fine, although HP claimed
it wouldn't support the new operating system. Turned out they did
anyway. It's fairly easy to get the crapware off the machine.

Bill

 

[Tom Lake]

Nobody should purchase an HP computer. They are not very good quality and

HP loads tons of advertising on them. Poor choice for anyone to buy an HP
computer.

Oh no! I actually agree with Spanky about something!
Satan can now ice skate since Hell must have frozen over.

Tom Lake

 

[Drew]

Technically speaking. Any OEM computer sucks because of crapware
preinstalled. The operating system has been screwed with and they always
include serious junk such as anything Norton or Macafee. You want more
dependability have someone at a local (small) shop build it if you do not
feel you can do it yourself!!

 

[Spanky deMonkey]

Oh no! I actually agree with Spanky about something!
Satan can now ice skate since Hell must have frozen over.

Tom Lake

Every once-in-a-while it happens !!!!!

 

[Fred]

Didn't know that. My hard drive was going, going,.......If it booted far
enough (several times it didn't), I got the message "Back up your folders
and files immediately; your hard drive is failing" - or words to that
effect. I decided not to invest in another hard drive since the computer
(an HP, by the way - I've had three of them) was 5 years old. Who knows
what goes next?

 

[DanS]

Didn't know that. My hard drive was going, going,.......If it booted
far enough (several times it didn't), I got the message "Back up your
folders and files immediately; your hard drive is failing" - or words
to that effect. I decided not to invest in another hard drive since
the computer (an HP, by the way - I've had three of them) was 5 years
old. Who knows what goes next?

Fair enough.....just thought I'd ask.

Typically, mechanical compononents are the ones that fail the most. HD's,
fans, and CD drives (well, floppies too, but using a floppy has become
uncommon with Gig size USB thumb drives for $15).

It may be worth it to invest $40 in a HD and use the machine as a second
machine, for whatever......(since you're already planning to spend
hundreds on a new system anyway, what's $40 ?)

 

[Buddha]

Amen to that!

Buddha

Nobody should purchase an HP computer. They are not very good quality and
HP loads tons of advertising on them. Poor choice for anyone to buy an HP
computer.

 

[webster72n]

Personally I think you should build or purchase what you think is right
for your use. I built my pc with Vista business just before the beta
release of vista. I have been running it since then and nary a problem
whatsoever! That does not mean others do not have any problems but I have
not. Vista I find requires a lot of horsepower to cruise nicely. I have
found the majority of problems come from upgrading to Vista rather than
doing a clean install with new hardware. Also I personally believe if
Mac's or Linux were that great then these so called trolls would not be
hanging out here now would they? Vista is a lot more secure than xp ever
was and as long as you are dilligent in protecting your self than you will
never have a problem. As long as you choose the right drivers for your
system you should also be fine. Do not use "borderline" hardware as this
will only cause problems! I am not necessarily a "windows" fan but until
something better comes along I will continue to use it... Just my 3 cents

 

[webster72n]

Technically speaking. Any OEM computer sucks because of crapware
preinstalled. The operating system has been screwed with and they always
include serious junk such as anything Norton or Macafee. You want more
dependability have someone at a local (small) shop build it if you do not
feel you can do it yourself!!

The only problem with that is, it probably would cost twice as much, if done
by someone else, but otherwise a good suggestion.

 

[Stan]

If you want a very nice, safe and secure computer, purchase a mid-range HP
computer that
comes with Windows Vista Home Edition preinstalled. Do not listen to the
trolls who advocate otherwise!


I'm the one who posted, "Question about Vista" above. Yikes. It sure
makes for interesting reading. However, one thing that I
noted was that there was no mention at all about whether purchase of a Mac
is a better choice. I realize that this is not a Mac
forum, but I just bet that there's a whole other thread waiting to start
on this one. Just so you know, advice I've received
includes:
a.. Don't touch Vista
b.. Vista is just fine
c.. Wait for Windows 7
d.. If you think Win7 will work perfectly at release, you're not thinking
right
e.. Run, don't walk, to the Apple store
f.. Go ahead, pay twice as much (or more) for a Mac
Why, oh why, did my other computer have to crash? I don't need this.

My question is why are the trolls allowed to disrupt this VISTA Forum

 

[Alias]

My question is why are the trolls allowed to disrupt this VISTA Forum

New to UseNet?

Alias

 

[Carey Frisch [MVP]]

You may wish to use the Windows Vista Forums, where mature posters can avoid the lame trolls:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/category/windowsvistaitpro/

If you want a very nice, safe and secure computer, purchase a mid-range HP
computer that
comes with Windows Vista Home Edition preinstalled. Do not listen to the
trolls who advocate otherwise!


I'm the one who posted, "Question about Vista" above. Yikes. It sure
makes for interesting reading. However, one thing that I
noted was that there was no mention at all about whether purchase of a Mac
is a better choice. I realize that this is not a Mac
forum, but I just bet that there's a whole other thread waiting to start
on this one. Just so you know, advice I've received
includes:
a.. Don't touch Vista
b.. Vista is just fine
c.. Wait for Windows 7
d.. If you think Win7 will work perfectly at release, you're not thinking
right
e.. Run, don't walk, to the Apple store
f.. Go ahead, pay twice as much (or more) for a Mac
Why, oh why, did my other computer have to crash? I don't need this.

My question is why are the trolls allowed to disrupt this VISTA Forum

 

[Alias]

chuckle....he nailed your ass!...LOL!

He wasn't replying to me, dumb ****, but Carey. Drunk again?

Alias