Booklet Printing On Mono-Laser Printer

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WeiLienShih

Do all laser printers that do automatic duplex printing also do
booklets? If not, which laser printers do booklet?

XieXie
Wei
 
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Philip Tobias

Do all laser printers that do automatic duplex printing also do
booklets? If not, which laser printers do booklet?

Booklet printing is primarily managed by software. Some page layout
software may be able to directly output a file that is ready for booklet
printing. In other cases, you may need a separate booklet printing
utility, which can convert your document into the correct format.

Booklet printing requires that the pages are imposed (arranged) in the
correct order. Depending on the number of pages, this often means
outputting the pages in a sequence that is different from their reading
order.

As long as the printer can work with your paper size and margin
settings, and the file itself, it can likely output the booklet.

Hope that helps. ...pt
 
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Fred McKenzie

Do all laser printers that do automatic duplex printing also do
booklets? If not, which laser printers do booklet?

XieXie-

Yes (I think). However, you need to run software that does the
"imposition" required to arrange pages so they are in the correct order.

One such program is "Cheap Impostor", which runs on a Macintosh.
<http://www.cheapimpostor.com/> For other systems, do a search for
imposition software.

Fred
 
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WeiLienShih

XieXie-

Yes (I think). However, you need to run software that does the
"imposition" required to arrange pages so they are in the correct order.

One such program is "Cheap Impostor", which runs on a Macintosh.
<http://www.cheapimpostor.com/> For other systems, do a search for
imposition software.

Fred


'Imposition' and 'imposition software' are something new to me. I
never heard of it. I read some on it and I agree. That software may
be very necessary to do booklet printing after all.

XieXie

Wei
 
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WeiLienShih

Booklet printing is primarily managed by software. Some page layout
software may be able to directly output a file that is ready for booklet
printing. In other cases, you may need a separate booklet printing
utility, which can convert your document into the correct format.

Booklet printing requires that the pages are imposed (arranged) in the
correct order. Depending on the number of pages, this often means
outputting the pages in a sequence that is different from their reading
order.

As long as the printer can work with your paper size and margin
settings, and the file itself, it can likely output the booklet.

Hope that helps. ...pt

Thanks

I may try a Brother laser for booklet printing. A few of their models
seem to be designed to do it.

Wei
 
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Matti Partonen

'Imposition' and 'imposition software' are something new to me. I
never heard of it. I read some on it and I agree. That software may
be very necessary to do booklet printing after all.

XieXie

Wei

Take a look at the FinePrint utility at http://fineprint.com/fptutorials/ . It does booklets – on almost any printer, it seems - and much more. I use it since many years with my inkjet because it works better that the booklet feature of the printer driver.

Matti P.
 
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WeiLienShih

Take a look at the FinePrint utility at http://fineprint.com/fptutorials/ . It does booklets – on almost any printer, it seems - and much more. I use it since many years with my inkjet because it works better that the booklet feature of the printer driver.

Matti P.


Well - I tried to download a trial and a free (preferable) version of
fineprint to see how it works. Could not get a copy - even after I
by-passed all the extra download garbage, which is not easy. Might I
ask you it you can post a download URL?

XieXie
Wei
 
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Michael J Davis

(e-mail address removed) was inspired to say
Thanks

I may try a Brother laser for booklet printing. A few of their models
seem to be designed to do it.

I bought a HL-2250DN last December does Duplex & booklets fine!

Mike
 
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WeiLienShih

(e-mail address removed) was inspired to say

I bought a HL-2250DN last December does Duplex & booklets fine!

Mike

Yeh Mike.

I just bought the EHL-2270DW - refurbished @Staples $70, and have high
hopes. Price seemed great! To me anyway.

XieXie
Wei
 
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Matti Partonen

Take a look at the FinePrint utility at http://fineprint.com/fptutorials/ .
Well - I tried to download a trial and a free (preferable) version of
fineprint to see how it works. Could not get a copy - even after I
by-passed all the extra download garbage, which is not easy. Might I
ask you it you can post a download URL?

XieXie
Wei

I downloaded it from http://fineprint.com/release/fp810.exe . Did not see any download garbage, and the file looks, as a file, pretty much like the previous version that I have installed.

Matti P.
 
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WeiLienShih

I downloaded it from http://fineprint.com/release/fp810.exe . Did not see any download garbage, and the file looks, as a file, pretty much like the previous version that I have installed.

Matti P.

Thanks Matti

I was able to download and install version 8.

As I said I am waiting to try a Brother EHL-2270DW laser that I just
bought off Staples, but do not have yet. So, I thought to try it on
my Artisan AIO inkjet which has automatic duplex capability that I
have used for duplex printing, and that works nice. But I had never
tried it for booklet printing.

I just used Fineprint. I have a result I don't understand. I have a
13-page PDF document that used 4 sheets of paper, which seems fine.
But the pages are as follows:
Sheet 1 Side 1 left half blank (correct) , right half document page 1
(correct)
Sheet 1 Side 2 upside down (wrong) left side blank (wrong), right half
document page 2 (wrong). I figure it should have been Sheet 1 Side 2
right side up(of course), left half document page 2, right side
blank.
Sheet 2 Side 1 left half blank (correct) , right half document page 3
(correct)
Sheet 2 Side 2 upside down (wrong) left side document page 13, right
half document page 4 (wrong). I figure it should have been Sheet 2
Side 2 right side up (of course), left half document page 4, right
side document page 13.

and so on.

What do you think I am dong wrong?

XieXie

Wei
 
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Matti Partonen

wrote in message
Thanks Matti

I was able to download and install version 8.

As I said I am waiting to try a Brother EHL-2270DW laser that I just
bought off Staples, but do not have yet. So, I thought to try it on
my Artisan AIO inkjet which has automatic duplex capability that I
have used for duplex printing, and that works nice. But I had never
tried it for booklet printing.

I just used Fineprint. I have a result I don't understand. I have a
13-page PDF document that used 4 sheets of paper, which seems fine.
But the pages are as follows:
Sheet 1 Side 1 left half blank (correct) , right half document page 1
(correct)
Sheet 1 Side 2 upside down (wrong) left side blank (wrong), right half
document page 2 (wrong). I figure it should have been Sheet 1 Side 2
right side up(of course), left half document page 2, right side
blank.
Sheet 2 Side 1 left half blank (correct) , right half document page 3
(correct)
Sheet 2 Side 2 upside down (wrong) left side document page 13, right
half document page 4 (wrong). I figure it should have been Sheet 2
Side 2 right side up (of course), left half document page 4, right
side document page 13.

and so on.

What do you think I am dong wrong?

XieXie

Wei

Did you teach FinePrint the paper handling characteristics of your
particular printer?

It is now some years since I started to use FinePrint, but I remember that
after I installed FinePrint, it asked me to do a test print of several pages
and to tell it which way the pages come out. *Only* after this did it print
correctly on *my particular printer*. This is because it cannot know the
paper handling characteristics of all printers on the market and the driver
settings (like "print last page first") currently in effect.

Matti P.
 
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WeiLienShih

Did you teach FinePrint the paper handling characteristics of your
particular printer?

It is now some years since I started to use FinePrint, but I remember that
after I installed FinePrint, it asked me to do a test print of several pages
and to tell it which way the pages come out. *Only* after this did it print
correctly on *my particular printer*. This is because it cannot know the
paper handling characteristics of all printers on the market and the driver
settings (like "print last page first") currently in effect.

Matti P.


Yes I did.

XieXie
Wei
 
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WeiLienShih

I just finished trying pages 8-15 of a different .PDF file on my
Artisan inkjet AIO, which as I said seemingly has 'booklet'
capability. It does have 'automatic duplex printing'. My idea was to
print one sheet of paper, 4 document pages on front and back each.
I did it both directly to the Artisan and to Fineprint. The results
were the same and wrong.

I got one sheet of paper just fine. But, on the backside, (1) each
of the four document pages needs to be rotated 180 degrees, and
switched left and right with the document page beside it.

That's how I see it anyway. I am stuck trying to correct this.

XieXie
Wei
 
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Matti Partonen

I just finished trying pages 8-15 of a different .PDF file on my
Artisan inkjet AIO, which as I said seemingly has 'booklet'
capability. It does have 'automatic duplex printing'. My idea was to
print one sheet of paper, 4 document pages on front and back each.
I did it both directly to the Artisan and to Fineprint. The results
were the same and wrong.

I got one sheet of paper just fine. But, on the backside, (1) each
of the four document pages needs to be rotated 180 degrees, and
switched left and right with the document page beside it.

That's how I see it anyway. I am stuck trying to correct this.

XieXie
Wei

I have never experienced a problem like this. I use a HP Officejet K7100
(manual duplex only) which has its own booklet capability, which works fine
apart from the fact that it tends to scale the output in ways I do not want.
When I do booklets via the printer driver or via FinePrint, the page order
and orientation is always correct. When I use FinePrint, I let it to do all
paper handling; printer driver is set to plain one-sided printing.

That is all my experience. Anything more would be guesses, and this is the
only guess I have at the moment: are you sure that you do not rotate the
sheet 180 degrees when inserting them for backside printing?

Matti P.
 
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Fred McKenzie

and so on.

What do you think I am dong wrong?

XieXie

Wei-

When you do double sided printing, there should be a choice of how the
document is to be bound: short edge or long edge. Whichever one you
have it set for, try the other.

My guess is that it is set for long edge binding and should be set for
short edge.

Fred
 
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WeiLienShih

Wei-

When you do double sided printing, there should be a choice of how the
document is to be bound: short edge or long edge. Whichever one you
have it set for, try the other.

My guess is that it is set for long edge binding and should be set for
short edge.

Fred


I have concluded that most of my problems with booklet printing occur
when I print 4 document pages per 81/2X11 sheet side. When I just
print 2 doument pages per side, the results are perfect. This uses
twice the paper of course, but it works, and my frustrations decrease.

Thanks for the advices.

Xiexie nimen
Wei
 

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