battery on the motherboard

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What I'm wondering is whether the replacement of the 1700 cpu with the
Athlon 2100 could have triggered something that would have corrupted any
files.
Of course the reason I got the 2100 is because some programs I'm interested
in (like QuickBooks, Red Shift 5, etc) recommend/require a higher speed.
If I don't get any failures, I'll put the 2100 back in. BTW, the 2100 is the
max supported by the MB.

Jack

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Another thing to consider- I don't know where you are located, but it's
getting pretty warm and humid here in SC, not quite enough for the AC, but
enough for the ceiling fan to be left on all the time. Is the room where you
have the PC any warmer now than during the winter; got good circulation
around the PC? Just a thought.
--
SC Tom

"Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed
any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.
 
Well, did a "stress test" on the pc and it crashed. While Media Player was
going thru a song list it started hiccuping on the 4th song, then all
locked up, then the screen started doing strange things including partial
black out and resetting to 640x 480 (I think) and a non-dithered 36 pt
phrase appeared at the bottom of the screen, "Why are we contacting you?"

By that time the pc was totally frozen and needed a hard shut down. Upon
rebooting, Windows error reporting indicated it was a video device driver
issue. But I just reinstalled that -- the same one that been working fine
for years.

FYI, active programs at time of crash =
.. Explore
.. Windows Viewer looking at a 3 MB photo
.. Word with 2 MB document.
.. PhotoImpact with 2 photos @ 3 MB and each edited 21 times (20 undos each
in memory)
.. Media Player playing a playlist with the MP screen set to Alchemy-Random.
Nothing was being done on the pc when it crashed, except for Media Player
playing the songs.

Irritating!!!!!!!

Anyway, I opened Media Player again and playing the same song list and guess
what -- there is nothing happening on the MP screen, it's blank, but it's
still set to Alchemy-Random!? So, it goes thru the 4th song and I decide
to activate the MP screen by selecting Musical colors - Colors in Motion.
The only active programs are OE and MP. Then, while typing this, the pc
froze before completing the 5th song.

Arrgghhh!!!!!!!

So, now I'm wondering is the graphics card the problem or Media Player!? Or
is the motherboard the problem?


Jack

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What I'm wondering is whether the replacement of the 1700 cpu with the
Athlon 2100 could have triggered something that would have corrupted any
files.
Of course the reason I got the 2100 is because some programs I'm interested
in (like QuickBooks, Red Shift 5, etc) recommend/require a higher speed.
If I don't get any failures, I'll put the 2100 back in. BTW, the 2100 is the
max supported by the MB.

Jack

-----------------------------------


Another thing to consider- I don't know where you are located, but it's
getting pretty warm and humid here in SC, not quite enough for the AC, but
enough for the ceiling fan to be left on all the time. Is the room where you
have the PC any warmer now than during the winter; got good circulation
around the PC? Just a thought.
--
SC Tom

"Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed
any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.
 
Have you scanned for malware? There's a chance you may be infected with
something that's corrupting the drivers.
Try a temperature monitoring program. A couple that I like are HWMonitor
http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitor.php and CoreTemp
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/. HWMonitor gives more different temps like
the video card, hard drives, etc. than CoreTemp, plus power supply voltages.
It's possible that the motherboard is bad, but just as possible the video
card is on the way out. The only way to know for sure would be to replace
them with known good components, but by the time you go through the expense
of doing that, you would probably be near the cost of a bare bones system
from somewhere like Tiger Direct. Here's a selection:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_tlc.asp?CatId=31&name=Barebone-Kits .
--
SC Tom

"Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed
any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.
 
Tom,
Have you scanned for malware?<
Click to expand...
I ran a thorough Windows Defender and also Micro Trend's "House Call."

This afternoon I did another test by running only Media Player, and I
selected No Visualization. The system froze by the time MP reached the 5th
or 6th song. Now I'm thinking that perhaps one of Windows security updates
could be the culprit.

I'll try your monitor suggestions.
Tiger Direct<
Click to expand...
Yeah, I got the current pc from them, a Systemax with a great Gigabyte MB --
for years I bragged about how stable the system was.


Jack

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Have you scanned for malware? There's a chance you may be infected with
something that's corrupting the drivers.
Try a temperature monitoring program. A couple that I like are HWMonitor
http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitor.php and CoreTemp
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/. HWMonitor gives more different temps like
the video card, hard drives, etc. than CoreTemp, plus power supply voltages.
It's possible that the motherboard is bad, but just as possible the video
card is on the way out. The only way to know for sure would be to replace
them with known good components, but by the time you go through the expense
of doing that, you would probably be near the cost of a bare bones system
from somewhere like Tiger Direct. Here's a selection:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_tlc.asp?CatId=31&name=Barebone-Kits .
--
SC Tom

"Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed
any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.
 
On 4/7/2010 4:26 AM On a whim, SC Tom pounded out on the keyboard
I had to replace the MB on two of them, the PS on one, the graphics card on
two or three of them, and RAM on at least half of them, so I was in, out,
and around them a lot more than I should have been. I can remember on the
one with the bad PS that the one that came out had the switch, but the
(upgraded?) one they sent me as a replacement didn't. Just thought it
strange that it wasn't an identical replacement since that unit was less
than a year old at the time.
I wish I could remember the model number since I had an inordinate amount of
hardware go bad on such a small group of workstations, especially
considering the price we paid for them. Didn't exactly give me the warm and
fuzzies later on when I was told we were getting a single Dell server to
replace the two out-dated solid-as-a-rock HP's we were currently running.
The Dell server also had switches on the power supplies. I remember that
because I had to install the redundant one, and while sliding it into the
rack, I must have accidentally turned it off somehow. I slid it back out a
little, reached over it, and turned it back on.
Click to expand...

Boy, I'd like to know where those machines came from. Same with the
server, as I've never seen a Dell server with one either.


Terry R.
 
Whoa -- HWMonitor is big bucks. And CoreTemp appears not to support AMD
Athlon XP series.

So far, without using Media Player, no crash.


Jack

-----------------------------------------


Have you scanned for malware? There's a chance you may be infected with
something that's corrupting the drivers.
Try a temperature monitoring program. A couple that I like are HWMonitor
http://www.cpuid.com/hwmonitor.php and CoreTemp
http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/. HWMonitor gives more different temps like
the video card, hard drives, etc. than CoreTemp, plus power supply voltages.
It's possible that the motherboard is bad, but just as possible the video
card is on the way out. The only way to know for sure would be to replace
them with known good components, but by the time you go through the expense
of doing that, you would probably be near the cost of a bare bones system
from somewhere like Tiger Direct. Here's a selection:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_tlc.asp?CatId=31&name=Barebone-Kits .
--
SC Tom

"Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed
any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.
 
Terry R. said:
On 4/7/2010 4:26 AM On a whim, SC Tom pounded out on the keyboard


Boy, I'd like to know where those machines came from. Same with the
server, as I've never seen a Dell server with one either.


Terry R.
Click to expand...

From CDW. That's where we bought most of our hardware.
--
SC Tom

"Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed
any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician."
Lt. Col. J.D. "Jeff" Cooper, USMC, Ret.
 
My pc crash problem appears to be fixed.

Solution: Deleted 6 GB of files on the hard drive so there is now 9 GB of
free space.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed!


Jack
 
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